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OCNewbie

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Noooooo!!!!! How long is this ban? If it's like two weeks or something, can you vacation me instead? I'd much rather not post in this forum for two weeks and read the gold that is JK's posts than miss out.

I'm serious...if the vacation isn't long can I get it instead of him?

I hope it's permanent. Track him down and find out another forum he posts on to get your needed entertainment fix, because he'll be just as batshit crazy elsewhere. Someone like him doesn't belong on a forum like AT.
 

LumbergTech

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Frankly posting that sort of crap deserves a ban not vacation.

That wasn't posting style that was flat out hatred and personal.

It was kind of poor taste, but I can understand what he was trying to say.

He doesn't feel that they respect life, so he doesn't respect them.
 

spidey07

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It was kind of poor taste, but I can understand what he was trying to say.

He doesn't feel that they respect life, so he doesn't respect them.

I don't respect thugs who viciously and brutally attack another human being and bash their head into the concrete as they scream for their life.
 

lotus503

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It was kind of poor taste, but I can understand what he was trying to say.

He doesn't feel that they respect life, so he doesn't respect them.

Yeah but the vitriol one expresses towards people on the Internet is flat unwarranted. Heated exchanges and insults are one thing, telling people fuck their dead parent is over the line of reasonable.

Also he happened to pick the one guy that actually hasn't said anything really derogatory against Martin or his folks.

If we all had to post here with our real names and info the vitriol would be a ton less.

Anonymity fail
 

lotus503

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I don't respect thugs who viciously and brutally attack another human being and bash their head into the concrete as they scream for their life.

Other than maybe geo and a few fellow bigots you have no ones respect.

Everyone, even on your side of the fence thinks your a racist POS.
 

LumbergTech

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Yeah but the vitriol one expresses towards people on the Internet is flat unwarranted. Heated exchanges and insults are one thing, telling people fuck their dead parent is over the line of reasonable.

Also he happened to pick the one guy that actually hasn't said anything really derogatory against Martin or his folks.

If we all had to post here with our real names and info the vitriol would be a ton less.

Anonymity fail

I agree, it was juvenile and not the type of thing that I would say to someone. Just tossing in that he was probably just super angry over the subject and lashed out stupidly.
 
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I agree, it was juvenile and not the type of thing that I would say to someone. Just tossing in that he was probably just super angry over the subject and lashed out stupidly.


Ironically, lashing out stupidly and getting 'super angry' is exactly what trayvon did.

It's a terrible situation all around, pretty much everyone involved made bad decisions. I'm really looking forward to this situation coming to an end.
 

Geosurface

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For a long time I felt what happened to Trayvon was a huge tragedy. I'm not so sure anymore.

The more I've thought about this case, and thought about a lot of things lately... the more I feel that our society's permissiveness of criminality is making it crumble.

I've always been rabidly anti-death penalty but something about hitting 7 billion people worldwide, and seeing some of the cultural trends in our country and world... is changing my tune.

Trayvon was a thug and a burglar, and while he may have straightened out, he probably would've just gotten worse. He was the sort of person to attack a stranger for keeping an eye on his suspicious, criminalistic ass.

I think the world is better off without people who do that kind of thing.
 
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biffpreston

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Here's a question? Trayvon Martin walked up to and confronted George Zimemrman, afrter George Zimmerman had been following him. I think that is pretty well established. Before Trayvon Martin was shot what happened?

I notice that people who follow the media trend to simply blame George Zimmerman without question don't seem to discuss how the fight broke out and who started it. I can guarantee though that a lot of these folks if not all would say it was George Zimmerman who started the fight by following Trayvon Martin rather than it being Trayvon Martin's fault for throwing quite possibly not just the first punch but the first, second, third and so on and then beating George Zimmerman's head on the ground.

It reminds me of when the media creep Geraldo Riviera had his nose broken. You had some skinheads on one side of the stage and some multi ethnic coalition of self decribed peaceniks on the other. One big black guy walks over to the skinhead side and wraps his hands around one of the skinheads necks and starts choking him for no reason at all, the guy hadn't even said anything. Then another skinhead stands up and pushes the black guy as he is literally choking the skinhead. Then the multiethnic group of so called peaceniks runs over and the fight breaks out. Afterwards Geraldo and many other liberal news and media actors blame the fight on the skinheads. I have no doubt that the majority of liberal minded people in the viewing audience did the same. It just doesnt fit to blame the black liberal guy, it's not politically correct. Blame those nasty racist skinheads, thats the thing to do.

Same thing with George Zimmerman and Trayvon Martin. The media tried it's best to make the issue into a white on black hate crime but it didn't work out as well as our media bosses and liberal establishment had hoped. It came out that he was not really white but the momentum to crucify geoge Zimmerman and make an example out of him continued nonetheless. Sort of reminds me of many of the hate crime hoaxes that have occurred on college campuses. There have been a number of incidents from swastikas being drawn to nooses being hung around campuses. In every single case that the perpetrators have been caught they have been either jewish or black leftists. Not a single case I'm aware of has ever led to anyone other than a hoaxer. Even after the hoaxes have been exposed you still see ethnic organization making demands like more affirmative action policies and more money for ethnic organizations on campus to fight nasty old "white racism".

Whatever works right? To hell with being honest or truthful let's crucify George Zimmerman it's the politically correct thing to do, and hey all the cool media personalities like Bill Maher say the same thing.

To hell with truth and honesty, let's just be politically correct! It's the modern liberal progressive democratic thing to do!
 
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xj0hnx

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I think in JKing106 we're seeing a bit of a Moby Dick thing going on.

His dead fat, southern, racist father is probably "the one that got away" - while he was still alive, JKing106 never mustered up the balls to stand up to him, and tell him off properly.

Now he's got unfinished business and he's on the hunt for the elusive, great white racist. Nevermind that they've been hunted nearly to extinction.

Dead on. LOL@jking106 and his daddy issues.
 

Geosurface

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Here's a question? Trayvon Martin walked up to and confronted George Zimemrman, afrter George Zimmerman had been following him. I think that is pretty well established. Before Trayvon Martin was shot what happened?

I notice that people who follow the media trend to simply blame George Zimmerman without question don't seem to discuss how the fight broke out and who started it. I can guarantee though that a lot of these folks if not all would say it was George Zimmerman who started the fight by following Trayvon Martin rather than it being Trayvon Martin's fault for throwing quite possibly not just the first punch but the first, second, third and so on and then beating George Zimmerman's head on the ground.

It reminds me of when the media creep Geraldo Riviera had his nose broken. You had some skinheads on one side of the stage and some multi ethnic coalition of self decribed peaceniks on the other. One big black guy walks over to the skinhead side and wraps his hands around one of the skinheads necks and starts choking him for no reason at all, the guy hadn't even said anything. Then another skinhead stands up and pushes the black guy as he is literally choking the skinhead. Then the multiethnic group of so called peaceniks runs over and the fight breaks out. Afterwards Geraldo and many other liberal news and media actors blame the fight on the skinheads. I have no doubt that the majority of liberal minded people in the viewing audience did the same. It just doesnt fit to blame the black liberal guy, it's not politically correct. Blame those nasty racist skinheads, thats the thing to do.

Same thing with George Zimmerman and Trayvon Martin. The media tried it's best to make the issue into a white on black hate crime but it didn't work out as well as our media bosses and liberal establishment had hoped. It came out that he was not really white but the momentum to crucify geoge Zimmerman and make an example out of him continued nonetheless. Sort of reminds me of many of the hate crime hoaxes that have occurred on college campuses. There have been a number of incidents from swastikas being drawn to nooses being hung around campuses. In every single case that the perpetrators have been caught they have been either jewish or black leftists. Not a single case I'm aware of has ever led to anyone other than a hoaxer. Even after the hoaxes have been exposed you still see ethnic organization making demands like more affirmative action policies and more money for ethnic organizations on campus to fight nasty old "white racism".

Whatever works right? To hell with being honest or truthful let's crucify George Zimmerman it's the politically correct thing to do, and hey all the cool media personalities like Bill Maher say the same thing.

To hell with truth and honesty, let's just be politically correct! It's the modern liberal progressive democratic thing to do!

You're 100% correct.
 

LumbergTech

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You're 100% correct.

this is pretty hilarious.....you reverse the roles of the people in the fight and then somehow say it is comparable?? the black guy initiates a fight against the guys who arent stalking them and then somehow thats comparable to someone fighting someone who is stalking them?
 

WHAMPOM

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Give me a break here. We have a teen talking to a girl on his phone in essentially his back yard and a cop-wanna-be on a power trip hunting for the teen and you all see the teen as the aggressor? Ministry of Truth is strong here.
 

WHAMPOM

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I'm highly amused by these two clips from a video made a few months back about the case.



I love how he looks like he's straight up 8 years old there in their CGI. It looks like Webster.



and in this next one, I love how the 8 year old Webster is shot from great distance... just hilarious.



Fact is, the harmless little boy with Skittles is still an image which influences a lot of people and how they see this case. They'll deny it, but it's still that little boy they see in their mind. Including a lot of people in this thread.

When they first heard about this case, the idea that a little boy could have been assaulting a big grown man, just struck them as absurd, no way it was possible.

They haven't allowed the actual facts that came out since to budge them from that initial gut reaction. Simple as that.

Once more you post evidence that damns your own position. Straddling Zimmerman in that way, just how could Martin have noticed, seen or reached for a gun under Zimmerman's fat ass in the 5 O'clock position?
 

WHAMPOM

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This all testifies to just how effective some of the tactics of the Martin family are.

1.) Show ancient pictures of their dead son, and with these the first pictures of him everyone saw... a lot of people would never get past this image of the little harmless boy. That has worked very, very well for them.

2.) Lie about his lifestyle, seal his records, take advantage of the fact that he was a minor and do everything you can to hide the facts of what he was up to. Utilize the fact that society is terrified of ever calling out any black person on anything, especially if they're a grieving family member of the lil' boy with Skittles you already established in item number 1.

3.) Wear a dark grey hoodie when you're out lurking around, makes it harder to see you and makes you look more like an intimidating badass. This ended up helping erode John's certainty of what he saw, GZ was very visible in red... Trayvon in dark grey, not so much.

4.) Last, but most... let the mythos about the lil' 8 year old boy with Skittles loom so large in the media that it taints and influences all the neighbors/witnesses. Any person who doubts that John's equivocation later on what he saw is a direct result of being spammed by pictures of Trayvon at age 12, or age 10 in his football uniform, isn't being honest.

It was, and still is an incredibly effective media play. If you're a witness who saw what John saw, it'll require very great courage and clarity indeed to stick with what you know you saw, in the face of the racial narrative, the black panther shit, the Sharpton ball rolling... that feeling of oh shit, I'm a white dude and the entire black community is mobilizing for this kid who I saw beating the shit out of this guy... holding him down, basically I know this whole narrative is bullshit and could single handedly tear it down, but think what might happen to me then? Will they come after me? And maybe... maybe I didn't see what I thought I saw, after all look at this kid in the pictures, he is innocent and 12 years old. Maybe I am mistaken.

It's incredibly, incredibly evil really.

Looked like a light gray hoodie when TM was video taped buying candy and John reported it as a "white shirt", but don't let that stop you posting your "SLANT". After all you have spent a lot of time inflating a 5'11" teen to a 6'3" hulk "cause you believe the Coroner's tape must lie.
 

RampantAndroid

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Yeah but the vitriol one expresses towards people on the Internet is flat unwarranted. Heated exchanges and insults are one thing, telling people fuck their dead parent is over the line of reasonable.

Also he happened to pick the one guy that actually hasn't said anything really derogatory against Martin or his folks.

If we all had to post here with our real names and info the vitriol would be a ton less.

Anonymity fail

Except I don't think that fixes it. Oh, you disagree with that person? Look them up on facebook! Send them messages! Find their phone number and call it and ask if the fridge is running! Crap like that.

Otherwise....
 

Londo_Jowo

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Yeah but the vitriol one expresses towards people on the Internet is flat unwarranted. Heated exchanges and insults are one thing, telling people fuck their dead parent is over the line of reasonable.

Also he happened to pick the one guy that actually hasn't said anything really derogatory against Martin or his folks.

If we all had to post here with our real names and info the vitriol would be a ton less.

Anonymity fail

There are a few in this thread that argues their side without resorting to insults and personal attacks. Your replies in this latest round of BS in this thread have confirmed the reasons why I respect you. We made end up agreeing to disagree but never take it to the level JKing seems to take it.

I think you know I feel there's absolutely no need to demonize either TM or his family in this case. I want to think I've treated others in this thread with the same respect and not try to demonize or insult them as well.
 

nobodyknows

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A conclusion is not a fact.

Its just as easy to conclude from Zimmerman's wounds and who was on top, that Martin was trying to defend himself and ultimately failed.

And THAT conclusion also fits OTHER facts better than your conclusion.

Of course you don't look at facts that don't fit the conclusion you want to reach.
Just keep telling yourself that.
 

Londo_Jowo

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Looks like come Wednesday the final batch of evidence the prosecution has in the case will be released to the public. It also appears that the defense will have copies of TM's school records and social media records as well.

http://www.examiner.com/article/tra...e-public-microscope-like-george-zimmerman-did

Wednesday, Sept. 19 appears to be the date the public will get that answer, with the state slated to release their last batch of evidence regarding the shooting that took the life of the youth on school suspension, and the defense finally obtaining all the data from schools sought 10 days earlier.
 

lotus503

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Hmmm. Didn't some posters swear that Zimmermann wouldn't get the school records?

Asking for them and being able to present them in court are very different.

I think there is no way in hell it's allowed as evidence. I suspect MOM knows this, and wants it out for public opinion.

I don't have a problem with it really as martins past prior to the 26th simply doesn't matter at all in the case.

State has to prove murder, defense taking the posture of trying to show Martin as capable of violence actually erodes its position.
 
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