This seemed somewhat relevant. Another teen (apparently) punches a bus driver in the face, with video:
http://www.cnn.com/video/?hpt=hp_t3.../10/04/hln-kansas-city-bus-driver-punched.hln
This seemed somewhat relevant. Another teen (apparently) punches a bus driver in the face, with video:
http://www.cnn.com/video/?hpt=hp_t3.../10/04/hln-kansas-city-bus-driver-punched.hln
As of 2010, statistics report that of 16,277 murders, 10,568 were committed by males, 1,176 were by female, and 4,533 were committed in which the offenders sex was unknown. Likewise, 5,334 murders were committed by white/white Hispanic offenders, 5,943 were committed by black/black Hispanic offenders, 273 were committed by offenders of other races, and 4,727 murders were committed by offenders whose race is not known.
I'm absolutely shocked that the teens who did this turned out to be black! Flabbergasted, in fact. Here's that 17 year old black kid attacking a black bus driver in 2008 again: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t9mBTwu1h_4
Look, let's be real. There is an absolute epidemic of criminality in the black community. There is an epidemic of disrespect for authority, of rampant racism, as in... any harm done to whites is thought of, by a large and growing group of people within the black community, as being permissible or desirable.
Those in the black community who don't directly participate, provide cover with "stop snitchin'" glorification of criminal style and culture, and excuse making for those who are caught.
Many, many whites provide cover through excuse making, treating blacks like children who aren't responsible for their own actions and choices, providing BS reasons related to shit that happened hundreds of years ago, etc. The attitude among many, both black and white, is that if a black person does something positive all credit goes to them, and we should jack off about it endlessly. If they do something negative? Somehow whitey's fault, one way or another.
I'm sick of it, I'm sick of making excuses and hearing them. I'm 32, and if this emboldening of youth criminality, etc continues, among all races, not just blacks, although absolutely PRIMARILY among blacks, by a fucking huge margin in fact, then by the time I'm a senior citizen, or well before then, the probability of getting seriously victimized in some way is going to be astronomical.
There needs to be a cultural turnaround, and it starts with speaking honestly about this shit. It starts with cutting the excuse making and ear-plugging. Look at the FBI crime statistics, black crime is out of control, and off the fucking charts. Blacks are as much more dangerous than whites, as men are than women. Let that sink in for a second, that is astonishing.
Blacks are 12% of the population, black males are therefore about 6% of the population. Black males between age 15 and 40 are therefore an even smaller percentage, but logic dictates it is black males in that age range who are committing the vast vast majority of violent crime within the black community.
It's not the 60 year old black guys usually, it's not the black women usually (although plenty often it is)
Look at this:
Look at that. A MAJORITY of murders in the country are committed by blacks. It'd be bad enough if that meant 12% of the population were committing most of the murders. It's worse. Like I said, cut it down to just males, and then just age 15-40, I guarantee you that's where the vast majority of those 5,943 are happening.
So what percentage of that 12% are the males 15-40? Definitely less than 6%... let's say it's 3%. You have 3% of the population therefore committing like 60% of the murders. That's OUT OF FUCKING CONTROL.
And pretending this isn't true, or making excuses, or treating blacks like children whose every deficiency or bad action is actually someone else's fault, CLEARLY ISN'T TURNING IT AROUND. So can we just try, just TRY talking honestly about it and asking for some accountability?
Time for the white guilt industry to shut down, full stop. Time for the law abiding, responsible black people to get a lot louder and angrier.
If Obama had a son...
Old man suffered severe injuries and was knocked unconscious. When treyvon played his little game of knock out, his heart got knocked the fuck out back into his lungs.
Hey slim! Don't tell me you swung on a bus driver?
Why did the youth swing on the bus driver? Because he disrespect'in'ed the skittle by asking the non-paying loaders to get off.
Why don't I come down to your state and swing on you. You won't have time to pull your metal dick out of it's rectum holster!
Let me know when you are going to hold a rally to tell us how out of control we are. I'll be there to support you. With plenty of bandages and peroxide for the wounds, lol. God you are the worst *** ****** in this thread.
Look, let's be real. There is an absolute epidemic of criminality in the black community.
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Thanks OCNewbie, and point taken, it probably is beyond the scope of this thread.
For me it's just that this case sums the whole issue up perfectly, the Trayvon Martin case and the lies surrounding it are the ultimate example of the dishonest conversation on race in this country. I may make that thread in Off Topic as you suggest.
You think this case has something to do with "the whole issue" becasue you have a faulty premise about what "the whole issue" is.
Race has nothing to do with crime. If you think it does please explain how or why ?
Economic status has a lot to do with crime. Social and cultural influences probably do to. But the race of a particular culture isn't what creates a climate where crime or violence is acceptable. Look at soccer hooligans in Great Britain. Does it matter what race they are ?
Its because you misidentify the cause of crime commited by blacks that you think that Trayvon Martin's race means some things that it doesn't mean.
Well, to listen to the great advocates in the African American community, men of color earn less than their white counterparts due to racism.
For what its worth, I do agree with you that economic status is a better indicator, but their observation isn't wrong. If a larger percentage of the black community is poor, and poor tends to correlate with criminal, then its going to seem that there are more black criminals. That's just the distributive property of math at work.
I do think cultures that celebrate criminals breed this sort of issue. And its not just a "black thing". Look at Italians and Russians. We shouldn't teach our children that criminals are role models.
I agree. But the problem is if we start with a presumption that being black is the cause, then we look at Trayvon Martin and prejudge him, when being black has nothing to do with being a criminal.
I would see you coming and be prepared.
Try it.
Yet GZ was prejudged as many thought he was white. Do you think that Al Sharpton, Jesse Jackson, and NBPP would got involved if GZ had been named Jorge Zapada?
I agree. But the problem is if we start with a presumption that being black is the cause, then we look at Trayvon Martin and prejudge him, when being black has nothing to do with being a criminal.
I don't know that any of those people prejudged George Zimmerman, you'll have to tell me what you are talking about.
Wanting the killing of a person investigated thoroughly seems perfectly appropriate to me.
The family and crump didn't want it investigated, they wanted him arrested. THat is flat out WRONG. They don't hit their pay day if he isn't arrested. The investigation was wrapping up as there was NO evidence a crime was committed and ALL evidence proved it was self defense.
lol
so your retort to me pointing out the out of control violence in the black community, is to tell me I would be met with out of control violence by blacks if I spoke the truth about this issue in a public forum?
That's a remarkably insightful, and honest response actually. I agree with you. I appreciate your offer of bandages, but I'd probably be dead.
I am not pleased about the situation we find ourselves in, it gives me no pleasure to point it out, and I understand how as a black person it's rather difficult to hear it coming from a white mouth. Sorry for that, this isn't about rubbing peoples' faces in this problem just for the fuck of it. Don't we both want to see this situation change?
Haven't we already seen that denying it or prohibiting white people from speaking honestly about it, hasn't helped it? In fact, may have made it worse... or at least corresponded with it getting worse?
I'm not your enemy, classy. I'm really not. You seem to be a very responsible, good citizen. I have zero issue with you beyond disagreeing with you on this case, but I've seen other threads where I agreed with you completely, in particular one about homosexuals. You're a good, smart man who has allowed this gut instinct to protect your racial group to cloud your judgement in certain situations. Trayvon is one, whites talking about black crime is another.
I have no issue or quarrel whatsoever with law-abiding, responsible, intelligent, productive blacks, other than that I wish they would spread that meme more aggressively, or out reproduce the criminal blacks...
I have the exact same issue with lowlife, criminalistic, shithead whites that I do with their black counterparts. But I know where to aim my rhetorical guns, and that is at the larger problem. Their black counterparts outnumber the white ones by a massive, enormous, embarrassing margin.
Out reproduce? So your implying that black criminality is a genetic issue?
Rather than economic, cultural or other contributing factors it's genetic.
Sorry I have to disagree.
Gee I wonder if the same selection pressures and biological changes which lead certain subgroups within humanity to develop certain things might also prepare them more for, and give them an advantage at those same things now!
Nah! not a chance... after all, there is a magical shell around the human brain which prevents evolution and natural selection from impacting it, to protect peoples' feelings. Thank goodness for that!
Out reproduce? So your implying that black criminality is a genetic issue?
Rather than economic, cultural or other contributing factors it's genetic.
Sorry I have to disagree.
Genetics plays an enormously important role in everything about who we are, and what we are capable of. Much, much larger role than most people have any concept of, or would ever be comfortable entertaining let alone admitting.
emperus is being silly as usual, white supremacy lol. I find the notion of "white supremacy" to be a complete joke.
Anyway, last post about this stuff in this thread from me, I said I would stop derailing.