Are you freaky ignoring zimmermans testimony. 3 times? Without attorney present?
The more that comes out of this keeps proving Zimmerman story.
Stop making shit up in your head.
The family has stated they have given it to the police. I'll take their word. So far only the police have lied in this case. Since I have yet to actually see Z's "sworn testimony" we'll have to stipulate they both have given sworn statements.
T was being harassed by Z. There's your fucking crime.
So far only the police have lied in this case.
Not ignoring it at all.
You have Z's testimony. You have T's girlfriends testimony.
The girlfriends testimony of harassment occurred before Z's testimony of an attack.
We have yet to cross examine either but taking them as equal for now potential crime comitted by Z before potential crime comitted by T.
According to some people's definition of "lying", T's mother and father "lied" when they said they were sure it was T's voice screaming for help in the 911 tapes.
Mr. Zimmerman was a "Neighborhood Watch Captain" which has about the same legal standing as "tattletale", and with about the same authority....He was working with the cops...
...which the 911 operator instructed him not to do....and following a suspicious person...
...which the 911 operator instructed him not to do.
We haven't seen anybody's "sworn testimony" as far as I am aware.
I also don't see harassment. He was working with the cops and following a supicious person. Doesn't he have that right. Oh, I forgot. That's racist to do because the suspect was black, ergo it must be harassment.
Mr. Zimmerman was a "Neighborhood Watch Captain" which has about the same legal standing as "tattletale", but with somewhat less authority. ...which the 911 operator instructed him not to do.
As far as I can tell, the harrasment is only proven in the minds of people who are out to lynch Z.
The president of the NAACP, Benjamin Jealous, said Lee failed to do his job. "The reality is that this chief had probable cause to lock up a man who shot a boy in cold blood -- because he shot a boy in cold blood -- and he failed to do that," Jealous said.
He was still working with them, not for them but with them.
I know it's SOP. nobodyknows tried to imply that Mr. Zimmerman was pursuing Mr. Martin under some sort of authority, which I disputed by implication.which 911 operators tell EVERYONE to do in such situations, because it's SOP. It wasn't some uniquely thought out order that took into consideration all the events. Besides, the police dispatcher (wasn't actually a 911 call I think) "suggested" that it wasn't necessary for him to pursue Trayvon, and YES, there is a difference.
Edit: The 911 operators also told the resident witnesses the identical thing "don't go outside", basically. It's just standard operating procedure, nothing unique about it in the slightest.
You can't work "with them" unless the "them" agree
I know it's SOP. nobodyknows tried to imply that Mr. Zimmerman was pursuing Mr. Martin under some sort of authority, which I disputed by implication.
What did T do that was suspicious??
Mr. Zimmerman completed his work "with the police" when he placed his call reporting a suspicious person in his neighborhood. After that, he was freelancing.He was still working with them, not for them but with them.
I'm saying he can go whereever he likes/wants. Thats how the whole neighborhood watch thing works.I know it's SOP. nobodyknows tried to imply that Mr. Zimmerman was pursuing Mr. Martin under some sort of authority, which I disputed by implication.
Mr. Zimmerman completed his work "with the police" when he placed his call reporting a suspicious person in his neighborhood. After that, he was freelancing.
As this thread veers off on another totally irrelevant tangent.
How does Zimmerman's GF have any legal standing?
Its like saying Zimmerman could have called Joe Blow from Kokoma, and If Joe Blow said its OK, blow him away, Zimmerman would somehow be justified.
It was Zimmerman, Zimmerman, and Zimmerman who pulled the trigger and that is the only fact that matters in what amounts to nothing other than cold blooded murder.
Zimmerman did the crime, and now he must do the time.
Its the only conclusion logically possible.
I was always told that "neighborhood watch" authority encompassed observation and reporting, not pursuit of suspicious persons.I'm saying he can go whereever he likes/wants. Thats how the whole neighborhood watch thing works.