Without any evidence as to who started the physical altercation this case is going to come down to was GZ's use of force justified at the time he exercised force. The jury will receive the following instruction:
You guys really need to work on your english. This is a discussion about evidence. It's not a theory that Zimmerman acted irrationally and referred to Trayvon as if he was somebody else who Zimmerman thought he was.
Trust me... it's not going to be hard for the prosecution to paint a picture for the jury. It's clear from the recorded phone call that Zimmerman was under the mistaken impression that Trayvon was somebody else. This primarily based on the fact he was black like the burglary suspects.
It's right there in the police report that Zimmerman was incorrect... and yet all of his actions were based on his flawed judgment.
He knew he wasn't supposed to get out of the car and go after anybody... he did anyway.
It's going to be cake for them to show that Zimmerman was acting irrationally and playing vigilante that night. He was kind enough to leave ample evidence of all of this on the audio recording of his call to police.
Read in all cases.
In deciding whether defendant was justified in the use of deadly force, you must judge [him] [her] by the circumstances by which [he] [she] was surrounded at the time the force was used. The danger facing the defendant need not have been actual; however, to justify the use of deadly force, the appearance of danger must have been so real that a reasonably cautious and prudent person under the same circumstances would have believed that the danger could be avoided only through the use of that force. Based upon appearances, the defendant must have actually believed that the danger was real.
So Londo, I take that as a cop out on your part in that you don't have anything to counter what I've said because what I've said is accurate regarding evidence of GZ acting irrationally, and erratically leading up to the killing.
There isn't evidence of who started the fight, but there's plenty of evidence that GZ was going after Trayvon. He simply didn't want to keep letting those assholes get away. And he's going to have to pay for that.
Pay for what? What specific law(s) did GZ break, and hence what will he have to "pay for"? He's being tried in a court of law, where you only "pay for" the laws you have broken.There isn't evidence of who started the fight, but there's plenty of evidence that GZ was going after Trayvon. He simply didn't want to keep letting those assholes get away. And he's going to have to pay for that.
Pay for what? What specific law(s) did GZ break, and hence what will he have to "pay for"? He's being tried in a court of law, where you only "pay for" the laws you have broken.
So Londo, I take that as a cop out on your part in that you don't have anything to counter what I've said because what I've said is accurate regarding evidence of GZ acting irrationally, and erratically leading up to the killing.
There isn't evidence of who started the fight, but there's plenty of evidence that GZ was going after Trayvon. He simply didn't want to keep letting those assholes get away. And he's going to have to pay for that.
Good analogy. As long as you weren't breaking any laws (speeding, running red lights, etc.) in your efforts to follow the offending hit-and-run driver, I imagine the hit-and-run victim, and the police would both be quite thankful for your efforts. The same goes for GZ following TM: he broke no laws in the process, and his intentions appear to be to maintain knowledge of the suspect's whereabouts, in order to relay that information to police, thereby not letting him "get away".Example. You see a car involved in a hit and fun. Is there a reason why you follow it and notify tbe LEO where you are and direction going using your cell?
Or wait minutes and tell them it was a blur coupe heading that way. Pointing toward an intersection.
Which is most beneficial to the LEO?
The airdata crowd still does not understand Neighborhood watch principles or the concept of looking out for each other.
Irrational is doing things not rational. Keeping track of some one acting suspicious, profiling according to previous incidents is rational.
Example. You see a car involved in a hit and fun. Is there a reason why you follow it and notify tbe LEO where you are and direction going using your cell?
Or wait minutes and tell them it was a blur coupe heading that way. Pointing toward an intersection.
Which is most beneficial to the LEO?
Actually... I'm not the one missing anything
I'm citing things straight from the police report and from the neighborhood watch guidelines.
Zimmerman was done when he hung up the phone w\ police. That was it. They told him they didn't need him to follow. They didn't expect a rational person to leave the safety of their car, let alone refuse to return there and wait for police to arrive to do their jobs.
The jokes on you. Go read the police report & the neighborhood watch guidelines. And then the most important part is the fact that Zimmerman knew better than to leave his car as he'd been in the situation many times before where he didn't leave his car.
Good analogy. As long as you weren't breaking any laws (speeding, running red lights, etc.) in your efforts to follow the offending hit-and-run driver, I imagine the hit-and-run victim, and the police would both be quite thankful for your efforts. The same goes for GZ following TM: he broke no laws in the process, and his intentions appear to be to maintain knowledge of the suspect's whereabouts, in order to relay that information to police, thereby not letting him "get away".
Come on guys... really.
There's a point at which you need to simply give up what your attempting to do here and succumb to simple facts of the case including the police report.
Denying the police report simply shows that you're hypocrites since you're staunch police supporters in any other situation.
So Londo, I take that as a cop out on your part in that you don't have anything to counter what I've said because what I've said is accurate regarding evidence of GZ acting irrationally, and erratically leading up to the killing.
There isn't evidence of who started the fight, but there's plenty of evidence that GZ was going after Trayvon. He simply didn't want to keep letting those assholes get away. And he's going to have to pay for that.
And just to combat the assumed response of "but GZ didn't see TM break any laws!" (equivalent to the hit-and-run): in the hit-and-run situation, let's say you don't actually see the incident occur, but you're told by a bystander that did the description of the car (it was a small, blue, 4-door sedan, with a young, Asian male driver). You drive around the block and find a car, and driver, matching that exact description. You didn't actually see that car and driver do anything "wrong", or illegal, but it certain appears to match the description an eyewitness has relayed to you of someone that DID do something wrong. Sure, the police might finally pull that Asian man you've been following over, and discover it was NOT the same guy that was responsible for the hit-and-run, bu then again, perhaps it was. I don't think it's appropriate to chastise the person who did the following in that situation for being wrong, as their actions were not illegal, and their intentions were true.
Team Zimmerman :
I don't always believe in conspiracies... but when I do it's black people making fake police reports to support Trayvon martin. Or a black president giving out fake birth certificates.
Actually... I'm not the one missing anything
I'm citing things straight from the police report and from the neighborhood watch guidelines. Yet you can't site one law that was broken by GZ getting out of his car and trying to determine where TM ran so he could provide this information to the police.
Zimmerman was done when he hung up the phone w\ police. That was it. They told him they didn't need him to follow. They didn't expect a rational person to leave the safety of their car, let alone refuse to return there and wait for police to arrive to do their jobs. GZ was already out of his car when he was told they didn't need him to follow
The jokes on you. Go read the police report & the neighborhood watch guidelines. And then the most important part is the fact that Zimmerman knew better than to leave his car as he'd been in the situation many times before where he didn't leave his car. Which laws did he violate?
Come on guys... really.
There's a point at which you need to simply give up what your attempting to do here and succumb to simple facts of the case including the police report.
Denying the police report simply shows that you're hypocrites since you're staunch police supporters in any other situation.
If I see someone snooping around and I decide to ask them what they're doing, it's not my fault if they attack me. It doesn't matter if I said to myself 'this guy looks like one of 'those' types, I should be more suspicious'.
Rofl... As is typical with you and the rest of the crew, ignore MASSIVE amounts of evidence proving trayvon's past along with what happened that night, and instead focus on an errant comment in a police report.
We know, that these minute details are all you have left to go on, but the sooner you accept trayvon's fate the better.
And, be sure to teach to your thuggish friends and family that if they viciously attack an innocent man for interrupting their robbery he has every right to shoot them dead. It's an important lesson trayvon was not taught.
See, you must be trolling. None of the stuff you're talking about has any evidence and multiple people have already pointed out that you continue to post lies even though you've been called out on the fact that you have no evidence to back up any of the stuff you're posting.
And then you're in denial about actual evidence like the police report and NEN phone call.