Maybe this is what you're looking for?
http://articles.orlandosentinel.com...consultant-stand-your-ground-law-jurors-trust
I really am interested in this lie you've solely been referencing for all this time.
bolded. Looking for the link now, hope I still have it.
An earlier version of this article contained incorrect information about Zimmermans statements to jail officials about his involvement in a pretrial diversion program.
pretrial-diversion program, a scaled-down version of probation offered to nonviolent first-time offenders.
Telling the police that Trayvon emerged from the darkness is completely different from dee dee's take which says that the 2 meet up & trayvon asks him why he's following him to which zimmerman responds WHAT ARE YOU DOING AROUND HERE?!. Then she thinks she hears " get off, get off " but that's not as certain as the previous statements.
So please... slight variation? I don't think so.
pretrial-diversion program, a scaled-down version of probation offered to nonviolent first-time offenders.
Now wonder Judge Lester wasn't concerned with GZ's past.
There goes the history of violence angle.
Maybe this is what you're looking for?
http://articles.orlandosentinel.com...consultant-stand-your-ground-law-jurors-trust
I really am interested in this lie you've solely been referencing for all this time.
•The night he shot Trayvon Martin to death, police say Zimmerman told them his record was squeaky-clean. In fact, he had been charged in 2005 with resisting arrest without violence during an altercation with a state alcohol officer. Zimmerman wound up in a pretrial-diversion program, a scaled-down version of probation offered to nonviolent first-time offenders.
Just one of them...:biggrin:
He had a restraining order against his ex-fiance and she had one against him. They cancel each other out and expired 6 plus years ago. All the rest are hearsay.
Just one of them...:biggrin:
You imply he broke the rules so I asked you to prove he confronted TM{snip}
con·front - Meet (someone) face to face with hostile or argumentative intent.
That is still up in the air, and hinges entirely on what DeeDee says in court, and how much weight the judge and/or jury give her testimony (how credible she comes across as).
Like Druid said above, it's also important to identify who initiated the "confrontation"
Maybe there's something we don't know about, we don't have all of the evidence.
Maybe there's something we don't know about, we don't have all of the evidence.
Actually, this interview was just recently brought to my attention that does seem to corroborate it, at least in part. There's no mention of the party where GZ supposedly "snapped" and threw some girl, however.No one has ever corroborated the bouncer stuff.
This is a real interesting interview with what is reported to be one of GZ's friends. He goes into detail about the situation with the plain-clothed officer in 2005 that lead to GZ's arrest.
Also, if you listen to the earlier parts of this same interview, it appears that GZ did indeed work as a "bouncer", or performed some sort of security duties at various parties (the friend says he personally worked with George on "2 or 3") and things of that nature.
http://youtu.be/fNOPfh7qXfM?t=7m51s
No one has ever corroborated the bouncer stuff. Stooping to Spidey and Spatials level?
What's the difference between what your doing and the jewelry/tools meme? Aren't you both repeating rumors and half truths?
What more evidence do you expect to come out?
The restraining order is totally factual and not hearsay.
So no one has ever pressed a trumped up restraining order before? I remind you they were both restrained.
If you don't mind returning the favor, I'd like to ask you a question. From what is known, what reason can you think of would there have been for TM to have been belting out the kind of screams heard in Witness 11's 911 call?
Here's a link to it if needed: Witness 11 - 911 Call (WAV format)
Listen particularly to the screams at 0:02, 0:14, 0:22, 0:27, and 0:34 (among others, perhaps). TM wasn't taking any damage from GZ, so if those are TM's screams, what could GZ have possibly been doing, that was doing no physical harm to TM, to procure those screams from him? The gunshot comes at 0:40.
Zimmerman saw Martin acting in a way that he interpreted as casing houses. It's also consistent with a teenager ambling along, talking on the phone, no place to go and no hurry getting there. It's worth pointing out that Zimmerman did not initially choose to confront Martin, merely called the law to come check him out. Since Zimmerman has supposedly caught a burglar here before, this tells us that Zimmerman found Martin's behavior suspicious, but not necessarily criminal.Yup, just keep on ignoring that zimmerman saw trayvon casing houses and peering into garages.
Try that in my neighborhood and guarantee you will be "confronted" worse that trayvon.
Society is sick of thugs, sick of people 'cruising' while peering into open garages, sick of thugs slowly walking while peering between houses.
And a jury of 12?
One wonders if they truly do know that all those burglaries were by black teens. I believe the one burglar caught was a young black man, and I think the police attributed the break-ins to a nearby housing project which is largely black, but burglars typically don't leave a lot of racial indicators behind. ("Officer, he ate my hot wings but didn't eat my brie and crackers - obviously he's black!")I imagine Trayvon's race influenced GZ's following him. Given te history of breakinz reportedly by black teens this is reasonable that it should.
There is no indication that when GZ was attacked he only fired upon T because he was black unless you think he would have been ok getting assaulted by a white guy.
At the end of the day GZ 's decisions were not great but Trayvon's were worse--and illegal.
Okay, Afro-Peruvian has to be the coolest sounding racial mix ever.And Zim's mom is kinda black ... opps .. Afro-Peruvian
Well, I think that is pretty much cleared up now
What you will
not do is get physically involved with any activity you report or apprehension of any suspicious persons. This is the job of the law enforcement agency.
With all due respect, I don't think anybody can speak about what GZ saw of TM except GZ.Zimmerman saw Martin acting in a way that he interpreted as casing houses. It's also consistent with a teenager ambling along, talking on the phone, no place to go and no hurry getting there.
Except that's not the only rule he broke...
From Sanford's NW handbook:
What you will
not do is get physically involved with any activity you report or apprehension of any suspicious persons. This is the job of the law enforcement agency
I seriously doubt that it will be admissible as it's irrelevant to what occurred on 2/26/12. I can tell you're going to be right there with airdata, spidey, and spaciallyaware complaining that Judge Nelson shouldn't disallowed something you've determined to be of great importance in this case.
sound... if you don't mind?
Correction... that's what YOU believe he did. Unless you're going to put the blame on him for breaking the "physically involved" part because TM decked him and got on top of him (what I believe)