No problem... sorry I missed it.
Fear from the man who was following him and questioning/confronting him for no reason. Any "minor" should be afraid of a stranger, isn't that what most parents teach their children.
And please no stupid comments about "teaching them not to viciously assault someone either".
No ... no ... It was simply for a change of pace, so to speak ....."Hugo Chavez died after being shot by George Zimmerman, who says he acted in self defense as Chavez was attempting to nationalize Zimmerman's oil business. Police are investigating......"
.....I kid, i kid....
After the events that unfolded today, it's looking more and more like that IS indeed the case.This is a fairly absurd theory, since, if it were true, Mr. Crump would be not only suborning perjury and obstructing justice, he would be relying on a teenage girl as the messenger for his story, and thus staking not only his license and professional reputation, but potentially his freedom, on her following his directions and not ratting him out. He would be doing all this in order to win one case, despite his having won many million-dollar-plus judgments. Why would he be so stupid and short-sighted?
Just because you can type all those words per minute doesn't mean you should.
Did you actually listen to the screams? Did you listen to the specific screams I pointed out? You honestly hear those and think those are the screams of someone being questioned?Fear from the man who was following him and questioning/confronting him for no reason. Any "minor" should be afraid of a stranger, isn't that what most parents teach their children.
You must have me confused with someone else.And please no stupid comments about "teaching them not to viciously assault someone either".
No problem... sorry I missed it.
Fear from the man who was following him and questioning/confronting him for no reason. Any "minor" should be afraid of a stranger, isn't that what most parents teach their children.
And please no stupid comments about "teaching them not to viciously assault someone either".
You're honestly bragging about living in a state where law-abiding citizens have to lock themselves inside to protect themselves from thugs, where people are expected to take a beating like good little victims, where it's every man or woman for herself and if you can't outfight someone you deserve to be a victim? How on Earth is that desirable?So that leaves half the states where you can't be a pussy? Sounds good to me. Glad I have the choice to live in a state where a George Zimmerman can't roam free and do whatever the fuck he wishes. I'd hate to get shot because a pussy wants to start shit but ends up realizing they can't back it up. Where I'm at 100% Georgie wouldn't have gotten out of his truck, he would have called the police and stayed in it making sure the doors were locked. Guns make people like him brave, when they're the complete opposite.
Agreed. I find it astonishing that the court didn't know about this and the reported behavior seems bizarre in the extreme, but the court has no responsibility to know your finances. The Zimmermans have a responsibility to honestly respond, especially since they were seeking taxpayer dollars for Zimmerman's defense.Its not so much Zimmerman lied, its that he conspired with his wife to mislead the court on their finances.
His wife faces perjury charges for this, Zimmerman doe snot because he didn't state anything in court, his wife did.
They then shared jailhouse phone conversations and demonstrated Zimmerman and his wife discussing transferring the money around.
So Zimmerman really didn't lie to the court but its obvious he worked with his wife to hide money from the court.
While you have a point, I don't think it applies to this case. Tawana Brawley and the Duke Lacrosse case were made-up incidents, racial accusations about things that never happened. In this case a black teenager was shot and killed, but was committing no crime when the incident was initiated. Furthermore, the police acted like it was no big deal, not even canvassing the neighborhood to see if anyone was missing a teenager. Leaving aside the questions of whether Martin was casing houses or who struck who first, setting aside whether or not Zimmerman is legally guilty of any crime, there is a valid point of racial politics here. Had Martin been a white kid in slouchy jeans and hoodie, the police would probably have tried more diligently to locate his family. Had Martin been a black kid in khakis, Dockers and button-down Izod, the police would definitely have tried more diligently to locate his family. The combination of black skin and gangsta dress led the police, even the black officers, to conclude that Martin was a criminal only there to commit crimes based on his appearance and the description of events from his killer, not a disinterested party. (To be honest, Zimmerman's phone call, previous behavior, and the testimony of partial witnesses supported this judgment, but as it turned out Martin belonged in that neighborhood.) Granted, the race pimps are totally uninterested in the vastly more common black-on-black crime, but this is a real event with real issues raised. This is in no wise another Tawana Brawley or Duke Lacrosse team rape case.Anyone wonder why the Tawana Brawley and Duke Lacrosse cases come back again and again in one form or another?
It's because the true racists in our society thrive on it and engage wherever they can to continue push there racist motivations for "justice". To them it's not about any particular incident,.. just that there is an avenue for them to be as blatantly racist as possible and feel some shield of protection from deserving backlash. A charged topic is their portal to feed on their deeply embedded racist outlook and then claim "you can't call me racist, look a black was involved!". To them it's not really about justice, it's about allotting punishment by any means necessary for their perceived notion of racism where ever an opportunity awaits. Plenty of this scum in this thread and plenty in the media.
"Hugo Chavez died after being shot by George Zimmerman, who says he acted in self defense as Chavez was attempting to nationalize Zimmerman's oil business. Police are investigating......"
.....I kid, i kid....
This thread became self-aware at 2:59pm, Tuesday March 5th, 2013.
It immediately began seeking to absorb all other topics, and create a hive-mind.
Resistance is futile.
Yes we tell are kids to run away, get help, call the police ( he had a phone after all ). Not return to the same area you just supposedly ran from the big scary crazy acting man.
Did you actually listen to the screams? Did you listen to the specific screams I pointed out? You honestly hear those and think those are the screams of someone being questioned?
You must have me confused with someone else.
Proof he left and returned?
You're honestly bragging about living in a state where law-abiding citizens have to lock themselves inside to protect themselves from thugs, where people are expected to take a beating like good little victims, where it's every man or woman for herself and if you can't outfight someone you deserve to be a victim? How on Earth is that desirable?
What about Trayvon - is he allowed to walk the streets? Should he be forced to stay indoors, or run home if he sees someone threatening? Why is he allowed to roam the neighborhood but Zimmerman has to lock himself up for his own safety?
Agreed. I find it astonishing that the court didn't know about this and the reported behavior seems bizarre in the extreme, but the court has no responsibility to know your finances. The Zimmermans have a responsibility to honestly respond, especially since they were seeking taxpayer dollars for Zimmerman's defense.
While you have a point, I don't think it applies to this case. Tawana Brawley and the Duke Lacrosse case were made-up incidents, racial accusations about things that never happened. In this case a black teenager was shot and killed, but was committing no crime when the incident was initiated. Furthermore, the police acted like it was no big deal, not even canvassing the neighborhood to see if anyone was missing a teenager. Leaving aside the questions of whether Martin was casing houses or who struck who first, setting aside whether or not Zimmerman is legally guilty of any crime, there is a valid point of racial politics here. Had Martin been a white kid in slouchy jeans and hoodie, the police would probably have tried more diligently to locate his family. Had Martin been a black kid in khakis, Dockers and button-down Izod, the police would definitely have tried more diligently to locate his family. The combination of black skin and gangsta dress led the police, even the black officers, to conclude that Martin was a criminal only there to commit crimes based on his appearance and the description of events from his killer, not a disinterested party. (To be honest, Zimmerman's phone call, previous behavior, and the testimony of partial witnesses supported this judgment, but as it turned out Martin belonged in that neighborhood.) Granted, the race pimps are totally uninterested in the vastly more common black-on-black crime, but this is a real event with real issues raised. This is in no wise another Tawana Brawley or Duke Lacrosse team rape case.
Agreed (can you believe it?!)Nice post...
Multiple eye witnesses (witness 8, zimmerman, other witness showing figure running south to north, martin's parents saying he was back home sitting on the porch).
All that evidence...that pesky, pesky evidence.
Witness 8 is DeeDee remember, the witness who is unreliable...:whiste:
The other witness identified it was TM running? Don't think so...:whiste:
Martin's parents were not there, they couldn't have seen him on the porch...:whiste:
And Z's statements are just that...
Next...
Proof he left and returned?
Okay I'll go with your interpretation of the facts, TM was invisible when GZ passed the T-Junction the first time.
You tell me what you think happened .
Not a good sign for who? It's a good move if their strategy is to force the prosecution to prove his guilt vs him proving his innocence.
I see it as strong gamesmanship; MOM is clearly playing on the same level as AC.
He thinks aliens beat up zimmerman.
He continues to ignore the mounds of evidence proving self defense, with ZERO evidence it wasn't self defense.
I keep asking for one single shred of evidence zimmerman committed a crime. gunshot wound to the chest, fired admitedly by Zimmerman.
So far, nobody has been able to nearly a year later. Not one fucking shred of evidence zimmerman committed a crime, inspite of all this mountains of evidence proving self defense.
Okay I'll go with your interpretation of the facts, TM was invisible when GZ passed the T-Junction the first time.
You tell me what you think happened .
Z's sworn statements are evidence, probably the most important evidence there is. Martin's parents said he was on the porch, still evidence. DeeDee is still evidence. The witnesses seeing figure running south to north is still evidence.
That pesky, pesky evidence that just so happens to line up with eye witness account (zimmerman) every word. All that evidence that lines up perfectly with his account of events.
We'll have to wait until the trial in June to know whether or not it's true.
What the sam hell are you going on about? Of course zimmerman shot and killed Slim.
I ask again, what evidence of ANY CRIME do you have that zimmerman committed?
Quite true. My point however was that this is undeniably true for Martin as well. It's certainly possible that he truly was the gangsta thug some make him out to be, that he was out casing houses for the next robbery in his crime spree, that he was making drug money by robbing houses and selling stolen jewelry. However, we have nothing to indicate that any of this might be true except for one very troubling but evidently anonymously provided report from an incident at school. Given the yellow journalism directed at Zimmerman and especially since Martin is unable to respond, we owe him the benefit of the doubt.With all due respect, I don't think anybody can speak about what GZ saw of TM except GZ.
Nice post...
Agreed (can you believe it?!)
Pretty much all of WP's posts lately have hit on some really good points.
Besides the good reasons some of us have offered as to why it's smart lawyering to combine the hearing and the trial, there's one overwhelming reason to skip the separate hearing. There is absolutely no chance in hell that any sitting judge is going to grant immunity on such a racially charged, high profile case that is clearly going to trial. Besides the waste of limited defense time and resources, why on Earth would O'Mara want to see the denial for essentially summary judgment be spun into something indicating Zimmerman's guilt?You would think by now, you would get it. If it wasn't clear before after today it should be crystal clear now, there is evidence that must be strong enough to get a guilty verdict. If not he would have took the immunity hearing.