Unarmed black 17 year old shot by Neighborhood watch captain in gated community...

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Adrenaline

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I'm sorry, but Zimmerman was clearly the instigator here, not the victim.
And Zimmerman ignoring the directive by law enforcement to not follow Martin, is the proof of Zimmerman's aggressive and violent intentions.

The 911 dispatcher is not law enforcement. They can't tell anyone what to do, only give advice. That is what the dispatcher said under oath.

GZ stopped following TM.

Here you go, GZ said he turned around and TM was right in front of him:

http://video.foxnews.com/v/1741832364001/
 

Darkman

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As usual, LLMPapa takes things out of context and distorts things to make them seem like anything. That's the kind of guy that is a leader in the anti-GZ camp.
OCN ...

.. but can you comment anything on the rest: (Re: what if the state will say GZ allowed TM assault him ... or even inflicted some of those injuries on his own / on himself)

NOT a chance the state is going into this direction ... or ... ?
 

MetalMat

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Internet, media, political, and racial polarization has done wonders to this subject.

Should be a study in human behavior for millenia to come. Mandatory study for psych classes.

It's actually making me very upset that the main media tried to force a racist issue down our throat when it is clearly not. I do lean toward the left but this is pathetic. This will have negative impact for the racial relation issues we have in the US for a long time.
 

chucky2

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This reminds me of those cases where someone breaks into the home at 3am, rapes the wife and stabs the husband, the husband ends up somehow killing the intruder, and the intruders family members then sue the victims, and win.
It's just too bad Martin did not also have a gun, and when followed by that "weird guy"' then turned and fired justified by fearing for his own safety.
Then we'd have a case where Martin was standing his ground in fear of assault.
And Martin would win that case.
And there you would have justice.

I'm sorry, but Zimmerman was clearly the instigator here, not the victim.
And Zimmerman ignoring the directive by law enforcement to not follow Martin, is the proof of Zimmerman's aggressive and violent intentions. PERIOD!
Case closed. Zimmerman, murder first degree.

I realize you probably already vote, but, please, for the sake of our country and really, of humanity, do not breed. We cannot afford this level of retardation polluting the gene pool further.

Thx.
 

lotus503

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This reminds me of those cases where someone breaks into the home at 3am, rapes the wife and stabs the husband, the husband ends up somehow killing the intruder, and the intruders family members then sue the victims, and win.
It's just too bad Martin did not also have a gun, and when followed by that "weird guy"' then turned and fired justified by fearing for his own safety.
Then we'd have a case where Martin was standing his ground in fear of assault.
And Martin would win that case.
And there you would have justice.

I'm sorry, but Zimmerman was clearly the instigator here, not the victim.
And Zimmerman ignoring the directive by law enforcement to not follow Martin, is the proof of Zimmerman's aggressive and violent intentions. PERIOD!
Case closed. Zimmerman, murder first degree.

There isn't evidence supporting murder 2 let Alone murder 1. Being a dumbass isn't illegal in Florida.
 

MetalMat

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And I'll see you when he's determined not guilty.

Right at the peak of summer. In florida.

This what I was talking about. Know history, know your surroundings, observe and be aware, be prepared.

You can continue to ignore history, your surroundings and what is going on around you. I shall not.

If I'm wrong so what? Nothing to be concerned about. If I'm right.......

I was reading some original posts Spidey and it looks like you changed your mind, same here. It's funny how things change when the facts come out
 

Darkman

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From WebSleuths :

9 PM Eastern Tonight (6/27) On True Crime Radio Richard Hornsby

TONIGHT ON TRICIA'S TRUE CRIME RADIO FLORIDA ATTORNEY RICHARD HORNSBY JOINS SHERYL MCCOLLUM TO DISCUSS THE LATEST IN THE ZIMMERMAN TRIAL.

SHOW STARTS AT 9 PM EASTERN TONIGHT.

LISTEN HERE

If you have any questions for Sheryl or Richard please post them here.

http://www.websleuths.com/forums/showthread.php?t=213837

Thanks,
Tricia

Source:

http://www.websleuths.com/forums/showthread.php?t=213837

http://www.blogtalkradio.com/websleuths/2013/06/29/george-zimmerman-trial-daily-update
Listening to this now (it's recorded .. so can listen to it any time, not only LIVE)

it's around 60 min. total in duration ....

It's pretty good .. Richard Hornsby is a good attorney ...

He is saying .. so far the State showed ZERO evidence that it was Murder 2

... and everyone there agrees with him ...

... and at the same time he is saying that if GZ goes to prison, he "is going to DIE there" (with a large population of afro-americans in prison system) .. etc ...
... Unless they place him in some solitary protection for the entire duration ..

Anyhow ... listening to it now .. and it's pretty good .. worth to give it a listen.
 

mugs

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And I'll see you when he's determined not guilty.

Right at the peak of summer. In florida.

This what I was talking about. Know history, know your surroundings, observe and be aware, be prepared.

You can continue to ignore history, your surroundings and what is going on around you. I shall not.

If I'm wrong so what? Nothing to be concerned about. If I'm right.......

It's hilarious that you think everything you say is profound. You may have a mental illness.
 

Darkman

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Saw this pic of Trayvon posted on a different forum: (not sure how old he is on the pic)



Trayvon Martin - MySpace Photo
 

Svnla

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And for anybody that is so overwhelmed by an innocent 17 year old getting killed, let's look at the big picture. Tons of innocent people are getting killed & injured in south Chicago and this happens on a daily basis.

http://crimeinchicago.blogspot.com/

I already had it covered =
http://forums.anandtech.com/showpost.php?p=35200064&postcount=60157

and not just in Chicago but other places too, such as NY City = http://voices.washingtonpost.com/postpartisan/2010/11/post_9.html

In short, 95.1 percent of all murder victims and 95.9 percent of all shooting victims in New York City are black or Hispanic. And 90.2 percent of those arrested for murder and 96.7 percent of those arrested for shooting someone are black and Hispanic.
 

TechBoyJK

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This reminds me of those cases where someone breaks into the home at 3am, rapes the wife and stabs the husband, the husband ends up somehow killing the intruder, and the intruders family members then sue the victims, and win.
It's just too bad Martin did not also have a gun, and when followed by that "weird guy"' then turned and fired justified by fearing for his own safety.
Then we'd have a case where Martin was standing his ground in fear of assault.
And Martin would win that case.
And there you would have justice.

I'm sorry, but Zimmerman was clearly the instigator here, not the victim.
And Zimmerman ignoring the directive by law enforcement to not follow Martin, is the proof of Zimmerman's aggressive and violent intentions. PERIOD!
Case closed. Zimmerman, murder first degree.

No. You can't use lethal force just because someone is following you. However, if they are pummeling you on the ground and trying to smash your skull, that's a different story.

Zimmerman following Trayvon is not grounds for assault. What Zimmerman did by following him wasn't even illegal. If Trayvon attacked him because he was following him, and then continue to mma ground and pound him, I'm pretty sure he committed felony assault.
 
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Darkman, thanks for the link. I enjoyed that radio interview clip.

http://www.blogtalkradio.com/websleuths/2013/06/29/george-zimmerman-trial-daily-update

Did one of the witnesses today testify that Zimmerman had welts all over his face/head? It almost sounds like Trayvon was trying to murder Zimmerman. I can just imagine the defense's closing argument to the jury, "Imagine yourself on the ground with your nose broken and a muscular youth punching you repeatedly in the head..."
 

Darkman

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WhipperSnapper,

I believe they are having those on daily basis there now (or at least while GZ trial is on).
 

Darkman

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Kool-Aid drinkers are still at it, lol:

Natalie Jackson‏@NatJackEsq8h
Today was a GREAT day 4 the Prosecution. They took the Def's alleged "STAR" witness & neutralized him. BDLR & J. Guy r... "LAWYERING"
 

TerryMathews

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This reminds me of those cases where someone breaks into the home at 3am, rapes the wife and stabs the husband, the husband ends up somehow killing the intruder, and the intruders family members then sue the victims, and win.
It's just too bad Martin did not also have a gun, and when followed by that "weird guy"' then turned and fired justified by fearing for his own safety.
Then we'd have a case where Martin was standing his ground in fear of assault.
And Martin would win that case.
And there you would have justice.

I'm sorry, but Zimmerman was clearly the instigator here, not the victim.
And Zimmerman ignoring the directive by law enforcement to not follow Martin, is the proof of Zimmerman's aggressive and violent intentions. PERIOD!
Case closed. Zimmerman, murder first degree.

There is so much fail in this post I don't even know where to start.
 

EagleKeeper

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This reminds me of those cases where someone breaks into the home at 3am, rapes the wife and stabs the husband, the husband ends up somehow killing the intruder, and the intruders family members then sue the victims, and win.
It's just too bad Martin did not also have a gun, and when followed by that "weird guy"' then turned and fired justified by fearing for his own safety.
Then we'd have a case where Martin was standing his ground in fear of assault.
And Martin would win that case.
And there you would have justice.

I'm sorry, but Zimmerman was clearly the instigator here, not the victim.
And Zimmerman ignoring the directive by law enforcement to not follow Martin, is the proof of Zimmerman's aggressive and violent intentions. PERIOD!
Case closed. Zimmerman, murder first degree.

There is so much fail in this post I don't even know where to start..

Do not waste your effort.

He is a troll and can not even get his facts correct.
 

Londo_Jowo

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LMAO @ idiots that thought the instragram of West/daughters were eating ice cream on the days that West was questioning Rachel (DeeDee).

Look at the ties he was wearing on those days.





I suspect it was the tie he was wearing during the Frye hearings when he defeated the stupid (Reich & Owens).
 
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LMAO @ idiots that thought the instragram of West/daughters were eating ice cream on the days that West was questioning Rachel (DeeDee).

Look at the ties he was wearing on those days.

I suspect it was the tie he was wearing during the Frye hearings when he defeated the stupid (Reich & Owens).

In fairness, not that I care anyway, the timing of the daughter's posting it did imply it was taken during the last couple of days, even if it wasn't. I think if I were West I'd be annoyed by her posting this under the circumstances because it suggests (no doubt falsely) that he isn't taking this seriously.
 
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Londo_Jowo

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In fairness, not that I care anyway, the timing of the daughter's posting it did imply it was taken during the last couple of days, even if it wasn't. I think if I were West I'd be annoyed by her posting this under the circumstances.

If I'm not mistaken West was not aware that his daughter had posted the instagram and has since apologized. I'm sure he has told them not to post anything more until this trial is over.
 
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