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MrX8503

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Yup times have changed. Sadly.

Kids will kill you they have gotten way more violent with curb stomping and what not. And people will shoot you.

I miss 1970s. When a fight was a just a fight and youd shake hands after its over.

Another thing that pisses me off is this ganging up I see in videos. Like 5 on 1. That was not even considered back in the day you were a punk if you did that.

You're not supposed to assault anyone, PERIOD!
 

Darkman

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Buddy of mine posted this on FB and it made me laugh
Yes .. I saw this one earlier .. at one of the source links that i posted .. but decided not to post it .. cuz saw in it 7 ladies total (not 6) ... lol

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Meanwhile:

 

TerryMathews

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New Black Panther Party coy on ‘rallies,’ ‘street maneuvers,’ post-Zimmerman trial

By Cheryl K. Chumley
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The Washington Times
Friday, July 12, 2013



New Black Panther Party members are prepping for rallies and gatherings in the wake of the George Zimmerman murder trial, but are coy on whether violence, riots and other chaotic outbursts are potential — or welcome — offshoots of those events.
On the one hand, NBPP members promise on their Twitter site that they will not engage in any sort of unlawful outbursts if the second-degree murder trial in Florida ends in a not-guilty verdict.

Read more: http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2013/jul/12/new-black-panther-party-coy-rallies-and-street-man
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Protest, March, rally. More power to them. I wholly support anyone using their first amendment right in a lawful way to effect a change they believe in.

They had better not get violent in my neighborhood. I have a CCW, I know SD law, I'm an excellent shot, and I will use lethal force to defend myself, my family, or my property.
 

Darkman

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At least I agree with what she originally taught her kid unlike the commentators on MSNBC.

She is correct. Call 911. MSNBC commentator said to turn around, square up, land the first punch, and perpetrate an assault.

First thing I agreed with Sunny......
She is still on CNN .. Sunny ... Now

on AC 360 ....

Keep on watching ... She just can't give up ... Quite pathetic to watch her ...
 

ivwshane

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In US following someone is not a crime or else paparazzi would be shot left and right not to mention you could shoot anyone and claim they were following you.

Beating someone is a crime. The evidence and witnesses lead jury to conclude Trayvon Martin was beating the hell out of George Zimmerman when he was shot in lawful self-defense.

All these could haves you bring up mean nothing unless they are proven because defendants in US system have a presumption of innocence. He does not have to prove he is innocent - state has to prove he is guilty with facts.

Like witness say zimmerman beating the hell out of martin and then shoot him.


So you are saying that if Martin was alive and was being tried for assault the jury would have had ample evidence to convict Martin for assault?

Yeah I don't think so. There wasn't enough evidence either way.
 

Zebo

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Whatever , his face didnt look as beaten as hell , rather like
a kid s fight , this is typical of a single weak punch because
if it was a man s punch the guy wouldnt had enough reflexe
to take his gun , let alone point it rapidly to the other party ,
and i dont even talk of continuous beating unless TM was really
of very weak force as witnessed by the really insignificant injury.


Then you think Zimmerman didnt fear for his life or bodily harm. Thats fine you're entitled to that opinion. Jurors disagree though or they would have found him guilty. People have been killed by one punch by kids before like last month there was a post here about a referee in a soccer/football game that was killed with a single punch by a kid who did not like red card referee gave him. So to me any assault with punches can cause great bodily harm or death so I must agree with jury. If Martin mearly bumped or pushed him not so much.
 

Ns1

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So you are saying that if Martin was alive and was being tried for assault the jury would have had ample evidence to convict Martin for assault?

Yeah I don't think so. There wasn't enough evidence either way.

For this guy, bruised knukles on TM and injuries to GZ (with lack of injuries to GZ knuckles) most certainly support this theory. Further corroborated by eyewitness testimony claiming TM on top of GZ.
 

Zebo

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So you are saying that if Martin was alive and was being tried for assault the jury would have had ample evidence to convict Martin for assault?

Yeah I don't think so. There wasn't enough evidence either way.


Yes he would. Testimony from doctors, eyewitness' and evidence seems to support TM was committing assault and battery upon Zimmerman. No way he would have been found not guilty otherwise but a murderer.
 

Abwx

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Then you think Zimmerman didnt fear for his life or bodily harm. Thats fine you're entitled to that opinion. Jurors disagree though or they would have found him guilty. People have been killed by one punch by kids before like last month there was a post here about a referee in a soccer/football game that was killed with a single punch by a kid who did not like red card referee gave him. So to me any assault with punches can cause great bodily harm or death so I must agree with jury. If Martin mearly bumped or pushed him not so much.

We wont know exactly but what is sure for me is that a guy
with a weapon that cant get another outcome than killing
a 17 years unarmed youth is just a prove a posteriori that
he was unfit for the work.
 

TerryMathews

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For this guy, bruised knukles on TM and injuries to GZ (with lack of injuries to GZ knuckles) most certainly support this theory. Further corroborated by eyewitness testimony claiming TM on top of GZ.

Plus presumably the police would've pulled Martin off Zimmerman in this hypothetical.
 

DrPizza

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We wont know exactly but what is sure for me is that a guy
with a weapon that cant get another outcome than killing
a 17 years unarmed youth is just a prove a posteriori that
he was unfit for the work.

You know what? Your opinion really doesn't matter. All that matters is that 6 adults, of reasonable intelligence, selected and agree to by both sides of the case, heard all the evidence and essentially found that Zimmerman shot Travon in self defense. That jury heard the facts, we don't have any indication that you've heard them. That jury unanimously came to the conclusion, based on the facts, that Zimmerman is not guilty.
 

exdeath

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You know what? Your opinion really doesn't matter. All that matters is that 6 adults, of reasonable intelligence, selected and agree to by both sides of the case, heard all the evidence and essentially found that Zimmerman shot Travon in self defense. That jury heard the facts, we don't have any indication that you've heard them. That jury unanimously came to the conclusion, based on the facts, that Zimmerman is not guilty.

And it took more than 15 hours to do it indicating they did their job without predisposition or bias.
 

TerryMathews

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Why so hung up on this like it matters?

Because they either fail to realize or are trying to change the fact that legally carrying a weapon is not a threat in the eyes of the law.

They think that Martin had a right to self defense simply because Zimmerman had a gun, which is false in Florida.

In Chicago, for example that might be true. It is not in Florida or a number of other states with reasonable self defense and weapons laws.
 

Abwx

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You know what? Your opinion really doesn't matter. All that matters is that 6 adults, of reasonable intelligence, selected and agree to by both sides of the case, heard all the evidence and essentially found that Zimmerman shot Travon in self defense. That jury heard the facts, we don't have any indication that you've heard them. That jury unanimously came to the conclusion, based on the facts, that Zimmerman is not guilty.

We are in a forum , not in a court so your remarks are irrelevant
in respect of this topic , it s just your sayings that do not matter..here...
 

Abwx

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Why so hung up on this like it matters?

Be sure that this will set a jurisprudence that will benefit
to a violent side of your society.

Whoever has the guts to punch his own face can kill
an unarmed guy and get away with it.

The thugs and most ruthless guys are rejoicing , the law
will be with them if they are smart enough to implement
the good scenario....
 

Ns1

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Be sure that this will set a jurisprudence that will benefit
to a violent side of your society.

Whoever has the guts to punch his own face can kill
an unarmed guy and get away with it.


The thugs and most ruthless guys are rejoicing , the law
will be with them if they are smart enough to implement
the good scenario....

So where the proof that he punched himself in the face? There isn't any. Where's the proof that TM punched GZ? On TM's fucking knuckles.
 

Zebo

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Be sure that this will set a jurisprudence that will benefit
to a violent side of your society.

Whoever has the guts to punch his own face can kill
an unarmed guy and get away with it.

The thugs and most ruthless guys are rejoicing , the law
will be with them if they are smart enough to implement
the good scenario....

You never prove any of your hypotheticals. Problem is, in our system, facts must support a claim beyond a reasonable doubt that so and so acted such a way. So ponder away. I claim UFO's captured Zimmerman took over his mind and made him shoot.
 

Ns1

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@Zebo

Did you have a different name beforehand? I don't recognize your name but you have 40k posts since 2001...
 

Darkman

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