He was committing assault but he wasn't acting in self defense himself? Hmm...I don't see evidence to support that.
Frankly , i have no solutions when it comes to the US
because the cultural adoration of weapons is linked ,
wrong or right , to security , and this belief is deeply
entrenched in the USans psyché since the times of
west conquest.
Surely that places like Frisco which have the reputation
to be close to european standards would be capable
to accomodate firearms ban laws but we can be sure that
the , well , hillbillies and other southerners will make
it an existential issue and will derail any law well
before it s even proposed.
For the record , i doubt that your neighbouring Canada
has such permitive laws , yet , i v also no doubt that
it s not a country as violent as the US and surely
close to European standards.
Where i live , in France , homicide rate is 1.1 for 100 000 people ,
a high rate for Europe but still less than a quarter of the US one ,
so it makes no doubt that firearms kills more than they protect
in countries where they are legal.
O'rly? I think your stats are WAY off.
London had its lowest murder rate in 42 years last year. In London and its 32 boroughs there were only 89 homicides last year. NYC and its boroughs had over 400. Chi-town is in the
London has high violent crime rate, but its homicide rate is really really low.
Thats Imperfect self defense which is continuing to beat a man after he is down and screaming which witness supported. So if you're saying Zimmerman started it (no evidence supports that) and then tevon assumed beating on him he's still guilty of assault since threat was neutralized. You can only use reasonable force to stop a threat.
Thanks for showing us your both ignorant and a bigot.
Outside of liberal city mecca's most American's are pro-gun. Even if they were not, its a fundamental right for a citizen. Look it up under the 2nd amendment
First off, I made no claims on what happened other than speculation which is not enough to convict someone of a crime (though it appears to be enough for you).
Second, there were witnesses from both sides saying the screams were from "their guy", so that's not really good enough either to convict a person.
While I did not see the whole trial I never once heard there was a witness to the actual crime or to the actual fight, can you provide a link to that info?
I dont speculate. The John witness to the confrontation just prior to the shooting stated that Martin was on top of Zimmerman and punching him, while Zimmerman was yelling for help. The marks on Zimmerman support he was assaulted. The phone screams I chose to discount because of family bias but if i were forced to belive one it it would be based on people who said it based their reputation and history (credit history profession etc) which i dont know..so I must discount that.
All you do by removing gun is allowing the more vicous bigger stronger people to rule streets with homicide rather than level playing field. Problem is tribalism. Is same problem for violence going on everywhere in ME to africa to USA sadly..
He was committing assault but he wasn't acting in self defense himself? Hmm...I don't see evidence to support that.
What evidence supports TM was acting in self-defense? What were his injuries that caused him to "act" ?
Certainly if Zimmerman was attack first then he responded in self defense and if Martin was attacked first his response was certainly in self defense.
here's no evidence whatsoever that Zimmerman was anything but on the defensive the entire time.
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New York Giants star receiver Victor Cruz tweeted an ominous prediction for George Zimmerman shortly after Zimmerman was acquitted of murder, and then quickly deleted the tweet. And later apologized for it.
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What evidence is there that Zimmerman did anything offensive prior to the gunshot? There's no evidence whatsoever that Zimmerman was anything but on the defensive the entire time.
I used hillbillie or southerner not as a derogatory term
but to point the conservative mentality of a big part
of the US since i mentionned that they would derail
the eventual laws , it means they are numerous enough
but i dont think they are a majority , rather a big minority
whose activism demultipliate its membership number realities
but still , you can correct me , how much is the part that
is favourable to firearms legality...??...
More controversially, in July 2012, an evidence dump related to the investigation of Martin's death revealed that a younger female cousin of Zimmerman's had accused him of nearly two decades of sexual molestation and assault. In addition, she had accused members of Zimmerman's family, including his Peruvian-born mother, of being proudly racist against African Americans, and recalled a number of examples of perceived bigotry.
Sorry but that's just not true.
Just because someone is found not guilty doesn't mean all the evidence saying the opposite was a lie.
All this verdict says is that there was not enough evidence to prove guilt. That's different than saying there is no evidence of guilt
What evidence is there that Zimmerman did anything offensive prior to the gunshot?
Sorry but that's just not true.
http://www.gallup.com/poll/1645/Guns.aspx
in dec 2012, 74% of people polled said that hand guns should NOT be banned except for law enforcement.
in dec 2012 51% of people polled said that assault rifles should NOT be banned.
both of these polls occurred AFTER sandy hook and auroa. I'd expect there to be higher support for gun bans right after those occurred.
The defense maintained that Zimmerman was just walking back to his car when Martin confronted him, punching him in his face and knocking him to the ground. According to the defense, Martin then mounted Zimmerman and smashed his head into the concrete pavement multiple times, forcing the older man to shoot the teen in order to save his own life.
Well, duh! Zimmerman bruised TM's knuckles by striking them with his nose! /ivwshane's ridiculous scenariosWhat evidence supports TM was acting in self-defense? What were his injuries that caused him to "act" ?
Perhaps it would help you to realize that unlike in movies, people don't necessarily die instantly from gunshots, even when the gunshot hits the heart. The forensic evidence corroborates the version that TM was on top of Zimmerman when he was shot.Everybody can have his opinion :
Really soft this concrete, earth seems harder...
And the youth was found lying in the grass , curiously ,
not in the concrete pavement but the concrete was needed
to render the fight seemingly more brutal..
This guy , although innocented , is just a lucky liar
and the racists that hang by there are supporting him
not for an eventual innocence but because he had done
what they all secretely admire , killing a nega....
Well, duh! Zimmerman bruised TM's knuckles by striking them with his nose! /ivwshane's ridiculous scenarios
Perhaps it would help you to realize that unlike in movies, people don't necessarily die instantly from gunshots, even when the gunshot hits the heart. The forensic evidence corroborates the version that TM was on top of Zimmerman when he was shot.