Damn you sound like a thug. Where's zimmerman when we need him to shoot this guy?
Well if it was 893 I would have had to wonder why one of the mags wasn't full
But I think you missed my real point...not that it bothers me in the least you have them, wish I could just find some FDE pmags myself right now, I only have 4:'(
I heard that GZ could put that gun on auction and earn some money. Christies Auction House, are you in ?
Probably eBay or Craigslist.
Used PF9 is worth $200, not even worth selling.
So anyone who speaks softly and carries a big stick and refuses to be a victim is a thug now?
I thought thug status required some level of malicious provocation.
For this incident I doubt it, too much baggage for anyone except an actual racist to find any increased value in itNot pure face value as a regular gun but sentimental value/collectable item?
For this incident I doubt it, too much baggage for anyone except an actual racist to find any increased value in it
For this incident I doubt it, too much baggage for anyone except an actual racist to find any increased value in it
Sadly you're right...there are more than a few sick people left in this country, it would piss me off if he tried that though.Of course, that doesn't mean there would be shortage of buyers. I would be stunned if he couldn't get a couple of thousand bucks for it.
I thought he was whiteSo does this mean white racists have decided they like mexicans more than blacks?
“What she did is she filed a false affidavit before the judge in order to get a second degree murder charge,” Dershowitz said, “failed to tell the judge that there were photographs and failed to show the photographs that demonstrated that Zimmerman’s nose had been broken, that he had wounds in the back of his head. She misled the judge into giving her an overcharge second degree murder charge against Zimmerman. That is a true violation of civil rights.”
There're a few interesting facts that I don't hear the media mention it anywhere (or maybe I missed it).
- Treyvon Martin was talking to his friend about a creepy man following him, his friend told him to go home and he made it home (or close to). However, he hasn't though of for a single second to call the cops. Neither his friend. Instead he decides to take it by himself.
This is a big failure from his part and I won't blame him as much as his parents. At 17 and you decide to handle issue by fist fight instead of calling the cops.
By saying that, I am not big GZ fan even I do think the jury made the right decision. That guy shouldn't even carry gun if he uses deadly force as soon as he had a chance. He was fighting a 17 years old.
In my view, Trayvon Martin parents are as much guilty of theirs son death than GZ.
I thought he was white
Or was that just the bullshit fed to everyone by the media in order to drum up outrage?
For this incident I doubt it, too much baggage for anyone except an actual racist to find any increased value in it
There're a few interesting facts that I don't hear the media mention it anywhere (or maybe I missed it).
- Treyvon Martin was talking to his friend about a creepy man following him, his friend told him to go home and he made it home (or close to). However, he hasn't though of for a single second to call the cops. Neither his friend. Instead he decides to take it by himself.
This is a big failure from his part and I won't blame him as much as his parents. At 17 and you decide to handle issue by fist fight instead of calling the cops.
By saying that, I am not big GZ fan even I do think the jury made the right decision. That guy shouldn't even carry gun if he uses deadly force as soon as he had a chance. He was fighting a 17 years old.
In my view, Trayvon Martin parents are as much guilty of theirs son death than GZ.
Imagine if the verdict had gone the other way. It very easily could have. Difficult as it is over an internet forum, try putting the shoe on the other foot. Please show some respect.
This man has lost what he feels is right. What I suggest we do is argue logically, and morally, to educate and/or impress upon him our thoughts and feelings on the matter. To honestly explain why we feel this verdict is the right thing.
To me it's a question of Self Defense. Of not having the evidence to refute that claim, and to ask ourselves if that's reasonable, is that okay? Perhaps to examine and outline cases where it is or isn't Self Defense.
Perhaps we can reassure folks on the other side that we aren't out roaming the streets hoping to gun down 17 year old black kids.
I thought he was white
Or was that just the bullshit fed to everyone by the media in order to drum up outrage?
One thing about all this smoke about Federal charges is to make some idiots feel better. In order for the Federal Government to fie charges, there has to be a clear indication of a broken Federal Law. The only one that would come close would be labeling the acts of what GZ did as a "hate crime" but the FBI (Federal Bureau of Investigation) already ruled that out.
The Federal government can't charge GZ with any form of murder 2 or lesser umbrella charges AT ALL. That would be Double Jeopardy.
So the whole thing is a bunch of media and NAACP smoke.
Actually it was "creepy ass cracka" which is a racial slur, or just normal language according to them for some reason...and TM's decision to insert himself back into a situation he had gotten out of is exactly why this is such a clear case of self defense, he wasn't "chased down", he ran away but decided to return on his own and start a fight. And I think you nailed it that his parents are as much to blame as GZ, doesn't appear like he had much oversight considering his other activities and the possibility of his dad helping him get an illegal handgun is just icing on the cake of bad parentingThere're a few interesting facts that I don't hear the media mention it anywhere (or maybe I missed it).
- Treyvon Martin was talking to his friend about a creepy man following him, his friend told him to go home and he made it home (or close to). However, he hasn't though of for a single second to call the cops. Neither his friend. Instead he decides to take it by himself.
This is a big failure from his part and I won't blame him as much as his parents. At 17 and you decide to handle issue by fist fight instead of calling the cops.
By saying that, I am not big GZ fan even I do think the jury made the right decision. That guy shouldn't even carry gun if he uses deadly force as soon as he had a chance. He was fighting a 17 years old.
In my view, Trayvon Martin parents are as much guilty of theirs son death than GZ.
I heard that GZ could put that gun on auction and earn some money. Christies Auction House, are you in ?
Probably eBay or Craigslist.
It would have to be pretty public to garner any real big offers and mental defectives are barred from buying guns so the normal morons buying that crap would not be eligibleI don't know. With all the craps people paid for such as a piece of cereal/candy that looked kinda like Jesus/a US President, some hair or teeth from someone famous and so on. I would not count out the sheer stupidity of the general population.