Unarmed black 17 year old shot by Neighborhood watch captain in gated community...

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I guess that one must just decide how to interpret verbiage.

For myself; following is not going after someone.
Going after means to catch up and/or confront, depending on the situation.

Zimmerman never expected to have a confrontation with Martin; at the best he was hoping to see what direction he went from the top of the T.

And how do you "know" this? Evidence for this?
 
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I guess that one must just decide how to interpret verbiage.

For myself; following is not going after someone.
Going after means to catch up and/or confront, depending on the situation.

Zimmerman never expected to have a confrontation with Martin; at the best he was hoping to see what direction he went from the top of the T.

No the reason these quotes from the investigator aren't accurate is you have to read the entirety of his testimony to understand the context in which he was speaking.

He was not speaking as to what evidence there is or isn't. He was speaking about a very narrow thing, what he remembered on the stand at that moment about his own knowledge when he was completely unprepared to testify about that.

In that context you can't then jump to the conclusion that what he said has anythnig to do with what the prosecution's actual evidence is or will be as it is presented in a trial.
 

airdata

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I just saw rubbish. Where's the destruction?

That makes sense if you're the person posting erroneous information in the first place.

It'd only make sense that if you thought that stuff was real, that you wouldn't recognize somebody pointing out that you're incorrect and actually posting erroneous information.
 

Doppel

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It continues to e the case that as more info comes out GZ's version of events is solidified. When he is acquitted of this charge those racists in the community who immediately thought a black kid being shot by a non-black had to be illegal will go crazy for sure.

This chick who lied--her testimony is worthless now.
 

Londo_Jowo

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In Cory’s probable cause affidavit, DeeDee’s testimony was the only evidence they used to claim GZ pursued TM.
Someone the defense can now prove to have lied under oath.

I don't think they can prove anything that's in the affidavit.

http://www.thefloridanewsjournal.co...est-and-charge-affidavit-second-degree-murder

On Sunday, 2/26/12, Trayvon Martin was temporarily living at the Retreat at Twin lakes, a gated community in Sanford, Seminole County, Florida. That evening Marin walked to a nearby 7-11 store where he purchased a can of iced tea and a bag of skittles, Martin then walked back to entered the gated community and was on his way back to the townhouse where he was living when he was profiled by George Zimmerman. Martin was unarmed and was not committing a crime.
Zimmerman who also lived in the gated community, and was driving his vehicle observed Martin and assumed Martin was a criminal.



GZ profiling TM is not against the law



Zimmerman felt Martin did not belong in the gated community and called the police. Zimmerman spoke to the dispatcher and asked for an officer to respond because Zimmerman perceived that Martin was acting suspicious. The police dispatcher informed Zimmerman that an officer was on the way and to wait for the officer.

Nothing here against the law



During the recorded call Zimmerman made reference to people he felt had committed and gotten away with break-ins in his neighborhood. Later while talking about Martin, Zimmerman stated "these assholes, they always get away" and also said "these fucking punks".


Saying things under your breath violates no laws



During this time, Martin was on the phone with a friend and described to her what was happening. The witness advised that Martin was scared because he was being followed through the complex by an unknown male and didn't know why. Martin attempted to run home but was followed by Zimmerman who didn't want the person he falsely assumed was going to commit a crime to get away before the police arrived. Zimmerman got out of his vehicle and followed Martin. When the police dispatcher realized Zimmerman's was pursuing Martin, he instructed Zimmerman not to do that and that the responding officer would meet him. Zimmerman disregarded the police dispatcher and continued to follow Martin who was trying to return to his home.


No proof that GZ wasn't returning to his vehicle



Zimmerman confronted Martin and a struggle ensued. Witnesses heard people arguing and what sounded like a struggle. During this time period witnesses heard numerous called for help and some of these were recorded in 911 calls to police. Trayvon Martin's mother has reviewed the 911 calls and identified the voice crying for help as Trayvon martin's voice.


No evidence who confronted who or started the physical altercation

GZ parents also identified the screaming voice to be GZ.





Zimmerman shot Martin in the chest. When police arrived Zimmerman admitted shooting Martin. Officers recovered a gun from a holster inside Zimmerman's waistband. A fired casing that was recovered at the scene was determined to have been fired from the firearm.


Killing someone in self defense violates no laws


Yet the state wondered why Dershowitz said this affidavit was "unethical and irresponsible".


http://www.mediaite.com/tv/harvard-...arrest-affidavit-irresponsible-and-unethical/
 
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If you walk like a thug, talk like a thug, don't be surprised when you're treated like a thug.


Gold teeth and tatted up at 17 years old... I bet his momma was proud.
 

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I don't think they can prove anything that's in the affidavit.

http://www.thefloridanewsjournal.co...est-and-charge-affidavit-second-degree-murder




Yet the state wondered why Dershowitz said this affidavit was "unethical and irresponsible".


http://www.mediaite.com/tv/harvard-...arrest-affidavit-irresponsible-and-unethical/

I already went over this with you yesterday, didn't I?

Illegal? NO. Reckless, irresponsible, against NHW regulations, yes. His actions show clear evidence that he is liable for everything that happened.

Go look at the police report if you don't believe me. Or should I post that stuff again? Ok here you go knucklehead....I'll summarize for you. Try to read carefully.

"No evidence of trayvon doing anything illegal ..."

"Would have been avoided if zimmerman remained in vehicle...":

"Zimmerman following trayvon alone was the instigation..."

"Zimmerman's statements make it clear that he had already reached a faulty conclusion as to martin's purpose for being there."
 

Darkman

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lol .. Corey or whatever her name is ... is not even qualified to carry Dershowitz's bag...

Didn't she try to initiate some complaint against Dershowitz .. omg )))
 

Londo_Jowo

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I already went over this with you yesterday, didn't I?

Illegal? NO. Reckless, irresponsible, against NHW regulations, yes. His actions show clear evidence that he is liable for everything that happened.

Go look at the police report if you don't believe me. Or should I post that stuff again? Ok here you go knucklehead....I'll summarize for you. Try to read carefully.

"No evidence of trayvon doing anything illegal ..."

"Would have been avoided if zimmerman remained in vehicle...":

"Zimmerman following trayvon alone was the instigation..."

"Zimmerman's statements make it clear that he had already reached a faulty conclusion as to martin's purpose for being there."

Sorry, all you've done is try to pass off fairy tales as facts. The police report also states that the investigating officer (Serino) lacked evidence to file charges and only did so after he was pressured by other officers. These charges were not accepted by the DA as they lacked the required evidence of probable cause. Just as the state's affidavit lacks probable cause as it's key witness is now a "known liar".
 

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Sorry, all you've done is try to pass off fairy tales as facts. The police report also states that the investigating officer (Serino) lacked evidence to file charges and only did so after he was pressured by other officers. These charges were not accepted by the DA as they lacked the required evidence of probable cause. Just as the state's affidavit lacks probable cause as it's key witness is now a "known liar".

Oh god... here you go with the " fairy tales " again

I'm quoting directly from the police report.. and you refer to my post as fairy tales.

Do you not lack the intelligence to realize what that means? Referring to known facts as such simply means that you're a fucking idiot.

You on the other hand are over here posting your opinions left & right... I'm citing actual evidence in the case.

So, seriously... get real. Referring to direct quotes from the police report as fairy tales doesn't hurt me, just you.
 

Darkman

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I recall reading elsewhere else on the net ... "Oh DeeDee .. that poor child" ... "I hope she could be protected" etc .. lol

DeeDee ... with dirty PeePee (J/K)))
 

airdata

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So there we have it.... Team Zimmerman lying over and over again... regarding documented facts as " fairy tales " and other nonsensical bullshit.

It's going to be even more funny if/when zimmerman gets off on a tecnhicality and you guys do a celebratory dance for a known killer . You guys probably did the same thing when Casey Anthony got off too.
 

Londo_Jowo

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Oh god... here you go with the " fairy tales " again

I'm quoting directly from the police report.. and you refer to my post as fairy tales.

Do you not lack the intelligence to realize what that means? Referring to known facts as such simply means that you're a fucking idiot.

You on the other hand are over here posting your opinions left & right... I'm citing actual evidence in the case.

So, seriously... get real. Referring to direct quotes from the police report as fairy tales doesn't hurt me, just you.

Yes and I quote directly from the same police report.

Serino said he lacked evidence to file charges against GZ therefore it doesn't matter what he stated prior to then.
 
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I already went over this with you yesterday, didn't I?

Illegal? NO. Reckless, irresponsible, against NHW regulations, yes. His actions show clear evidence that he is liable for everything that happened.

Go look at the police report if you don't believe me. Or should I post that stuff again? Ok here you go knucklehead....I'll summarize for you. Try to read carefully.

"No evidence of trayvon doing anything illegal ..."

"Would have been avoided if zimmerman remained in vehicle...":

"Zimmerman following trayvon alone was the instigation..."

"Zimmerman's statements make it clear that he had already reached a faulty conclusion as to martin's purpose for being there."


More already disproven BS misinformation agenda campaign from the crumptonite camp.. No surprise here.


And zimmerman had every right to keep an eye on a thug casing houses.

He did absolutely nothing wrong that night.

 

airdata

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Yes and I quote directly from the same police report.

Serino said he lacked evidence to file charges against GZ therefore it doesn't matter what he stated prior to then.

So when you say "YES" You're agreeing w\ my post pointing out that you're full of shit and referring to documented facts as " fairy tales " as if to suggest I'm making them up myself?

You make it too easy to point out that you're a dumb ass.

From what I'm reading, serino originally wanted to charge zimmerman w\ manslaughter.

You're stating file charges as in anything. His statements about zimmerman's actions hold true regardless of what you say.
 
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