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buckshot24

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“If I see any violence, then I will remind folks that that dishonors what happened to Trayvon Martin and his family.”

This is what the pres said during the speech. As if the violence is between the attacker and the Martin's? Maybe I'm reading to much into it, I hope so.
"Dishonors!" Fuck you Mr. President. Martin dishonored himself by attacking a man for no good reason.
 

Darkman

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George Zimmerman verdict on 'Fox News Sunday,' CNN's 'State of the Union'

By Hal Boedeker Staff writer
11:30 a.m. EDT, July 19, 2013

The George Zimmerman verdict will continue to be a topic for Sunday morning chat shows this weekend. Dr. Ben Carson, the conservative author, and Rep. Donna Edwards, D-Md., discuss Zimmerman's acquittal and Florida's stand your ground law on "Fox News Sunday."

The program airs at 10 a.m. on WOFL-Channel 35. Kevyn Orr, emergency manager for Detroit, talks about the city's filing for bankruptcy. The panel will be Bill Kristol, Kirsten Powers of The Daily Beast, former Sen. Scott Brown, R-Mass., and former Sen. Evan Bayh, D-Ind. The Power Player featured will be Mark Leibovich, author of "This Town."

CNN's "State of the Union" turns to a segment billed as "Race and Racism in the Wake of Trayvon Martin." The panelists will be Charles Blow of The New York Times; Chrystal Wright, editor and publisher of The Conservative Black Chick; Sherrilyn Ifill, president of the NAACP Legal Defense and Educational Fund, and former House Speaker Newt Gingrich, co-host of CNN's upcoming "Crossfire." The program starts at 9 a.m. and noon. Another guest will be Sen. John McCain, R-Ariz.
Read more: http://www.orlandosentinel.com/ente...ct-on-fox-news-sunday-20130719,0,7700156.post
 

HendrixFan

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That is the point.
Don't want people focusing on the budget, the debt, Benghazi, Egypt, Syria, Iraq/Afghanistan, Iran, the IRS, Snowden, Russia, China, ect.

Wow.

Look at the length of this thread compared to the threads on those topics here. After all this time Obama finally weighs in and you think his words are a cover? He stood silent on what (rightly or wrongly) is a huge issue right now and is overshadowing other issues for far too long.

Whether or not you agree with Obama, and looking through this thread most here won't, it is silly to argue that he has been out there pimping this issue to cover his other problems. I can't stand the guy personally, and I did not vote for him either time, but I can put forth an honest evaluation of his rights and wrongs. Speaking up on this issue waaaaaayyyyyyyy after the fact is more cowardly than malicious or deceptive.
 

Darkman

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LOL .. just remembered that logo that was very popular at Pro-Trayvon forums couple of months ago:

 

werepossum

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Wow.

Look at the length of this thread compared to the threads on those topics here. After all this time Obama finally weighs in and you think his words are a cover? He stood silent on what (rightly or wrongly) is a huge issue right now and is overshadowing other issues for far too long.

Whether or not you agree with Obama, and looking through this thread most here won't, it is silly to argue that he has been out there pimping this issue to cover his other problems. I can't stand the guy personally, and I did not vote for him either time, but I can put forth an honest evaluation of his rights and wrongs. Speaking up on this issue waaaaaayyyyyyyy after the fact is more cowardly than malicious or deceptive.
? He did speak up initially, when it looked like racial injustice. Now he's attempting to harness the rage out there to move his own agenda forward. I don't like it, but it's fairly standard Politician 101. Personally I don't find either speech to be particularly cowardly, malicious or deceptive.

But then, that's judging him as a politician, not by the lofty moral standards of, say, used car salesmen.
 

Zebo

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Trayvon Martin could’ve been me 35 years ago.”

So Obama used to run around attacking people and GnP them? Must have lived in a state with no guns or just got lucky to make it into adulthood..
 

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Latest from Dr. Manning .....

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Juror B37: Zimmerman 100% Not Guilty

Published on Jul 19, 2013

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4PmGvtENoZw

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Why Did Not The Martins Stand For The Verdict

Published on Jul 19, 2013
http://www.atlah.org The Manning Report

Dr. James David Manning explains why the Martin family did not come to the Zimmerman Trial verdict .

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WMI1ZQrL-Hk
 

Tom

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Trayvon Martin could’ve been me 35 years ago.”

So Obama used to run around attacking people and GnP them? Must have lived in a state with no guns or just got lucky to make it into adulthood..

There's no evidence Trayvon Martin was running around attacking people. He was being followed, by a stranger, for no reason that would be apparent to Trayvon other than he was young and black.
 

Patranus

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There's no evidence Trayvon Martin was running around attacking people. He was being followed, by a stranger, for no reason that would be apparent to Trayvon other than he was young and black.

Huh? According to his bigoted girlfriend he was in-front of his fathers house when their call ended. She also believes that he threw the first punch.

So yes, there is evidence that Martin went out of his way to assault Zimmerman.
 

werepossum

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There's no evidence Trayvon Martin was running around attacking people. He was being followed, by a stranger, for no reason that would be apparent to Trayvon other than he was young and black.
Exactly. We don't know exactly what went down, but I can certainly understand that it was a stressful situation for Martin. We have no evidence that he was doing anything wrong, so the ideas that Zimmerman was Neighborhood Watch or that his own behavior looked suspicious probably never crossed his mind. Given that no one else reported Martin as a suspicious character, it's doubtful that Martin would have ever thought that Zimmerman might be a good guy thinking Martin might be a bad guy.

Huh? According to his bigoted girlfriend he was in-front of his fathers house when their call ended. She also believes that he threw the first punch.

So yes, there is evidence that Martin went out of his way to assault Zimmerman.
She certainly intimated that Martin attacked Zimmerman thinking he was a gay rapist, but she's said so many different and contradictory things I put no stock in anything she says. (And really, isn't "gay rapist" about the rarest thing in the world outside of a black Klansman?)
 

michal1980

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There's no evidence Trayvon Martin was running around attacking people. He was being followed, by a stranger, for no reason that would be apparent to Trayvon other than he was young and black.

is it illegal to follow young black people?
 

Tom

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Huh? According to his bigoted girlfriend he was in-front of his fathers house when their call ended. She also believes that he threw the first punch.

So yes, there is evidence that Martin went out of his way to assault Zimmerman.

Stick to facts. You don't know that's she's bigoted, that's an opinion. It isn't accurate she said where exactly Martin was, you're inferring a lot because it suits your purpose, that doesn't make it a fact that he was in front of any particular house.

And Zimmerman wasn't "people". He was a particular person who gave Martin the once over and got out of his car to follow him. At a minimum that's how it would appear to Martin, it doesn't matter what Zimmerman's purpose was.

Lots of people would take offense at that, there's nothing unique to Martin about that. And if we aren't black, we don't know what THAT aspect of it feels like. It isn't relevant whether or not Zimmerman had a racial motive, what we are discussing is how it would appear to Martin.

It isn't an established fact Martin assaulted Zimmerman. Its certainly possible, and that's one reason among many why the verdict could be reached.

But becasue somethnig is possible, or even likely, its wrong to talk about it as a fact when we don't know that to be the case.

And even if he did assault Zimmerman, that's not at all the same thing as walking about looking for people to fight.
 

Svnla

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And yet nothing will happen to him and no one will question why.

And I am willing to bet that Obama will NEVER say if he has a son, his son will be like that photographer. Or any of the blacks will be marching, screaming, and yelling "no justice, no peace" or riots/beatings to honor the legacy of that photographer so that beating will not be in vain.


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Ichinisan

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There's no evidence Trayvon Martin was running around attacking people. He was being followed, by a stranger, for no reason that would be apparent to Trayvon other than he was young and black.

Plenty of evidence of him fighting for fun.
 

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And if we aren't black, we don't know what THAT aspect of it feels like.

I'm sorry. I was under the impression that we're all human. If this is the case then how can you say we don't know what THAT aspect of life feels like? Are you inferring that we have different emotions because of our skin tone? Let's stop making excuses for people. You aren't superior to any culture regardless of your background, so you don't get to make excuses for them or their behavior. We all make out own choices in life.

It isn't an established fact Martin assaulted Zimmerman. Its certainly possible, and that's one reason among many why the verdict could be reached.
Martin was never on trial. Only facts that established what he did and when in regards to George Zimmerman were released.

And even if he did assault Zimmerman, that's not at all the same thing as walking about looking for people to fight.
No, but once again, Martin wasn't on trial, so this is irrelevant. No one is going to try Martin for assault and battery.
 

Patranus

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Stick to facts. You don't know that's she's bigoted, that's an opinion. It isn't accurate she said where exactly Martin was, you're inferring a lot because it suits your purpose, that doesn't make it a fact that he was in front of any particular house.

And Zimmerman wasn't "people". He was a particular person who gave Martin the once over and got out of his car to follow him. At a minimum that's how it would appear to Martin, it doesn't matter what Zimmerman's purpose was.

Lots of people would take offense at that, there's nothing unique to Martin about that. And if we aren't black, we don't know what THAT aspect of it feels like. It isn't relevant whether or not Zimmerman had a racial motive, what we are discussing is how it would appear to Martin.

It isn't an established fact Martin assaulted Zimmerman. Its certainly possible, and that's one reason among many why the verdict could be reached.

But becasue somethnig is possible, or even likely, its wrong to talk about it as a fact when we don't know that to be the case.

And even if he did assault Zimmerman, that's not at all the same thing as walking about looking for people to fight.

Ok.....cracker......
(Hint: you are on the wrong side of history)
 

TechBoyJK

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There's no evidence Trayvon Martin was running around attacking people. He was being followed, by a stranger, for no reason that would be apparent to Trayvon other than he was young and black.

There's actually some pretty hard cold evidence that disagrees with that. And its strong evidence that arguably played a part in the acquittal.
 

Geosurface

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I've just whipped up the first videos pertaining to this case that I've made in quite a while. Some of you may get a kick out of them, the first is very short, only 36 seconds long, and it's called...

Bernie hears the verdict

The second is about 3 and a half minutes long and I think you'll enjoy it too, it's called...

Rachel Profiling
 
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