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corwin

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Instead of me backing up my claim that you are a liar. Back up your claim that you are telling the truth. You can't!

Rachael Jeantel never said either of those statements.

What she testified to was:

Trayvon Martin: "What are you following me for?"

George Zimmerman: "What are you doing around here?"

Trayvon Martin: "Get off! Get off!"


That was her testimony during the trial under oath.
The fuck? You watched 30 seconds of her testimony and that's what you base your opinion on? No wonder you're a fuvking clueless idiot. Listen to the rest of what she said sometime, it will blow your tiny little mind...
 

narreth

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Unimaginable that the racists on this site believe George Zimmermans story as if they witnessed it. Unbelievable.

I am almost sure that Z-man's story is not fully accurate. If Zimmerman started it by grabbing Trayvon, does self defense still apply?

Also, there is a certain point in time where Rachel Jenteal's and Z-man's testimony diverge. That's why her testimony was so important, but she lost all credibility because of her horrible attitude on the stand.

I understand that her accent may be thick and difficult to understand because of her cultural background, but there is absolutely no excuse for her attitude during the trial. She seemed uninterested and annoyed at being there, which is ridiculous because it was partly her job to get the justice for trayvon and she failed miserably.
 

Reasonable Doubt

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Don't call anyone a "pro-Zimmerman person", it just fits into their prejudices that this is all about protecting a white man at all costs.


I don't care if you "protect a white man" or not, it doesn't change the facts of this case. It just shows that you are a bigot if you believe everything George Zimmermans says. The coward wouldn't even take the stand to be cross examined.
 

Reasonable Doubt

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The fuck? You watched 30 seconds of her testimony and that's what you base your opinion on? No wonder you're a fuvking clueless idiot. Listen to the rest of what she said sometime, it will blow your tiny little mind...

I listened to hours of her testimony. That stood out as far as the initial engagement is concerned and was very important part of her testimony that was completely disregarded by the jurors.
 

Reasonable Doubt

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I am almost sure that Z-man's story is not fully accurate. If Zimmerman started it by grabbing Trayvon, does self defense still apply?

Also, there is a certain point in time where Rachel Jenteal's and Z-man's testimony diverge. That's why her testimony was so important, but she lost all credibility because of her horrible attitude on the stand.

I understand that her accent may be thick and difficult to understand because of her cultural background, but there is absolutely no excuse for her attitude during the trial. She seemed uninterested and annoyed at being there, which is ridiculous because it was partly her job to get the justice for trayvon and she failed miserably.


Does her attitude make her testimony any less true?
 

corwin

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I don't care if you "protect a white man" or not, it doesn't change the facts of this case. It just shows that you are a bigot if you believe everything George Zimmermans says. The coward wouldn't even take the stand to be cross examined.

The facts of this case, and of the world we live in, are clear dipshit...you assault someone and you might end up with a fatal case of lead poisoning...think about that
 

Reasonable Doubt

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The facts of this case, and of the world we live in, are clear dipshit...you assault someone and you might end up with a fatal case of lead poisoning...think about that


Zimmerman wouldn't try that with someone he knew was armed. You see how the coward is afraid for his life now that people with guns want to assault him. He has a gun too! What is he afraid of? A fair fight?
 

corwin

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I listened to hours of her testimony. That stood out as far as the initial engagement is concerned and was very important part of her testimony that was completely disregarded by the jurors.

No, they got that little T-dog instigated the confrontation, that he was removed from the area and made a choice to go back and start a fight, you disregard the real facts of this case and scream bigot/racist like a moron
 

Geosurface

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Unimaginable that the racists on this site believe George Zimmermans story as if they witnessed it. Unbelievable.

Allow me to respond...

okay you imply that those who support Zimmerman are racists, but can we look at this with fresh eyes?



I'd say that graph certainly indicates racism on someone's part... but whose?

Is it whites, without whom our first black president could not have achieved the necessary votes to enter office?

Or is it blacks, who sided with Trayvon before any sort of facts had come in?

I don't know how to help you decide who is being racist about this, but I think these two videos will help you with that A LOT:

Charles Barkley on CNN today
PJTV Afterburner w/ Bill Whittle: The Lynching

Keep in mind that great legal minds all across the spectrum, even a lot of people who supported a guilty verdict until they looked more closely at it... agree that the verdict here was correct legally.

It's not about just believing Zimmerman. It's his account matching evidence and witness testimony that gives it credibility. Are you defaulting to just assuming everything he says is a lie? And if so, why?
 

corwin

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Zimmerman wouldn't try that with someone he knew was armed. You see how the coward is afraid for his life now that people with guns want to assault him. He has a gun too! What is he afraid of? A fair fight?

What are you, 12? Zimmerman didn't "try" anything, little T-dog was the idiot who's fists wrote a check his ass couldn't cash...maybe you should learn a lesson too, you thinking that beating somebodys ass for not respecting you is a good idea think again, they might be like Z or me and put a hole in your ass
 

werepossum

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What's the corroborating physical evidence that Trayvon threw the first punch?
<sigh> I've stated several times that we DON'T know that Martin threw the first punch. We DO know that Martin assaulted Zimmerman. Zimmerman's broken nose, bruising and scalp lacerations are evidence that Martin assaulted him, not that Martin threw the first punch, and while I have a problem with someone using deadly force to escape being beaten in a fight he started, we have no credible evidence of that happening either. (Besides which, having one's head slammed into concrete is definitely dangerous and the State of Florida is a bit more generous with self defense latitude than am I.) Zimmerman's injuries are evidence supporting Zimmerman's story; they aren't conclusive evidence but they are evidence. By contrast there is no evidence of Zimmerman throwing ANY punches, much less the first one. Doesn't mean it didn't happen, but there is no evidence to support it.

Remember too that Zimmerman's reaction on being told that the incident was captured on security camera was "Thank G-d!", not "oh shit!" This is evidence that he is telling the truth, or at least believes himself to be. Again, evidence is not necessarily proof, but it is indicative of the truth.

Quiet you. This is ATP&N, you're not allowed to make any kind of sense.
LOL Sometimes I forget.

I don't care if you "protect a white man" or not, it doesn't change the facts of this case. It just shows that you are a bigot if you believe everything George Zimmermans says. The coward wouldn't even take the stand to be cross examined.
One wonders if you will hold that same attitude to young black men on trial. Are they too cowards if they don't take the stand to be cross examined? Should we just strike out that part of our Constitutional protections so that we can be all manly?
 

Reasonable Doubt

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No, they got that little T-dog instigated the confrontation, that he was removed from the area and made a choice to go back and start a fight, you disregard the real facts of this case and scream bigot/racist like a moron


How could "T-dog" instigate a fight when he was running away from Zimmerman and being followed.

Then the

Trayvon Martin: "What are you following me for?"

George Zimmerman: "What are you doing around here?"

Trayvon Martin: "Get off! Get off!"


The "get off get off" means someone put his hands on Trayvon.

Trayvon got the best of him and that punk Zimmerman pulled out a gun in a fistfight with a 17 year old.
 

corwin

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Welcome back Geo, sorry you didn't get a reprieve to be here for the verdict but looks like this isn't done yet, sad the racists won't let this die
 

Reasonable Doubt

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What are you, 12? Zimmerman didn't "try" anything, little T-dog was the idiot who's fists wrote a check his ass couldn't cash...maybe you should learn a lesson too, you thinking that beating somebodys ass for not respecting you is a good idea think again, they might be like Z or me and put a hole in your ass


It'll be a shoot out and not a shooting! Get it!
 

EagleKeeper

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What's the corroborating physical evidence that Trayvon threw the first punch?

Given that there were no marks on Martin from Zimmerman that were from a Zimmerman offense; then if Zimmerman threw a punch; it did not land enough to make a difference.

We have the evidence that Martin did throw punches that made a difference.

Zimmerman was found innocent based on the situation that he was accused of; shooting Martin without justification.

Zimmerman nor Martin were on trial for throwing the first punch.

The first punch only matters to those that want to justify Martin's actions.
But they can not justify Martin's actions in the end; and to do so creates a weakness in their case that Martin was an innocent angel.
 

chihlidog

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How could "T-dog" instigate a fight when he was running away from Zimmerman and being followed.

Then the

Trayvon Martin: "What are you following me for?"

George Zimmerman: "What are you doing around here?"

Trayvon Martin: "Get off! Get off!"


The "get off get off" means someone put his hands on Trayvon.

Trayvon got the best of him and that punk Zimmerman pulled out a gun in a fistfight with a 17 year old.

Keep at it, Tracy.
 

corwin

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How could "T-dog" instigate a fight when he was running away from Zimmerman and being followed.

Then the

Trayvon Martin: "What are you following me for?"

George Zimmerman: "What are you doing around here?"

Trayvon Martin: "Get off! Get off!"


The "get off get off" means someone put his hands on Trayvon.

Trayvon got the best of him and that punk Zimmerman pulled out a gun in a fistfight with a 17 year old.
Lol...you lack critical thinking skills and a basic understanding of time and distance. Had this been a chase from start to finish you'd have a point, as it is there was ~4 minutes that little T-dog was gone, somewhere else, back home as implied by the "pretty little liar" Dee-dee...so he was not chased down while running away, that fucking punk decided to go back and pick a fight, toi bad he chose an armed man and got his ass handed to him, keep that in mind in case you ever feel that urge
 

narreth

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The jury is less likely to believe her because of her negative attitude in the courtroom. If she has a negative attitude in such an important situation, it can suggest that she isn't taking it seriously, which in turn suggests that she may not be telling the truth.

The juror who was interviewed on Anderson Cooper said that she did not find Rachel's testimony to be credible. Why do you think that is?
 
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