Unbelievable DEAL !!!! BFG Tech GeForce Ti 4200 128mb for $89 !!!!

[HeroOfPellinor]

Originally posted by: Magicktech
128mb card rules 64mb card no matter how you slice it.. (unless they start giving away 64mb cards for free)

Actually, the 64 MB versions performs better in nearly every test. I have a link to back up my statement, do you?
Tom's Hardware

 

[iwearnosox]

Originally posted by: Magicktech
128mb card rules 64mb card no matter how you slice it.. (unless they start giving away 64mb cards for free)

You're wrong. The 128mb cards use slower memory than their 64mb counterparts.

 

[QuantumSlip]

but you can usually o/c them to 64MB speeds, and a little bit beyond.

 

[CyOp]

Originally posted by: QuantumSlip
but you can usually o/c them to 64MB speeds, and a little bit beyond.

The 64MB cards are faster. The 128's just do not OC as well as the 64's, simple as that. (Obviously, you can get lucky, but your chances are much smaller.) If you have a high-end computer, then you should have a Ti-4400 or above, or you are just wasting your 'comp power'. I would use a 128 Ti-4200 for a low-end comp that cannot push the vid card. In that case, the OC is not so important, but at least you have more vid RAM.


Edit...
Heck, I would really not recommend a 128MB Ti-4200 for any system. I would recomment the 64MB and get the higher OC.

 

[Kelvrick]

Originally posted by: CyOp

Originally posted by: QuantumSlip
but you can usually o/c them to 64MB speeds, and a little bit beyond.

The 64MB cards are faster. The 128's just do not OC as well as the 64's, simple as that. (Obviously, you can get lucky, but your chances are much smaller.) If you have a high-end computer, then you should have a Ti-4400 or above, or you are just wasting your 'comp power'. I would use a 128 Ti-4200 for a low-end comp that cannot push the vid card. In that case, the OC is not so important, but at least you have more vid RAM.


Edit...
Heck, I would really not recommend a 128MB Ti-4200 for any system. I would recomment the 64MB and get the higher OC.

Tis true, but if someone isn't planning on upgrading any time soon, the 128mb version is better. Right now the 64mb versions are faster, but as time goes on, the 128 will do better in the end. Of course, this is only for someone who won't upgrade again in like 3 months.

Also, does anyone plan on using the BB 10% off coupon for this?

<== monkey dance

 

[Kelvrick]

Originally posted by: FPSguy
How I see it:

Best Buy (Ti4200 here)

Pros
$90 card (on Black Friday)
128MB RAM
DVI connection

Cons
350MHz RAM
Buy early and risk you won't get a rebate (unless they let you return and rebuy -- and a guy from Best Buy above said his store won't let you do that)
Wake up early, and even then you might not get one
$80 in rebates at risk


CompUSA (Ti4200 here)

Pros
No waiting -- buy it now online or in-store
500MHz RAM
$50 in rebates at risk -- appear to be manufacturer's rebates

Cons
$100 (still a good deal, but not as good as $90)
64MB RAM
No DVI


Bottom line: Unless you need the 128MB or the DVI, I think I would pay $10 more and get a faster card and sleep in Friday morning.

Kinda late reply, but just so everyone knows. Both the 64mb and 128mb versions have cores that are clocked at 250mhz. The difference is the memory clock.

64mb = 500
128mb = 444

<== monkey dance

 

[odoe]

Well, for one I hope they don't honor return/rebuys. It really sucks for all those guys that are going to be waiting in line for this deal only to find a bunch of people strolling in and return the card they bought last week and rebuying it at the special price. I don't need the card, but their is a difference between a hot deal, and being a prick.
I asked a guy at BB yesterday about this and he said what may happen is they might just not allow you to rebuy the same card you returned. It would just go in the back, and maybe back on the shelf the same day. This was BB in West Covina, CA.

 

[Muse]

Originally posted by: Muse
My local BB didn't have any on the shelf but they checked their network and the surrounding stores have them, so I'll drive 25 miles round trip and pick one up. I expect (hope) the BB ad appears in my S.F. Chronicle TG or Friday. I tried to buy today and have it shipped to me or the store but they told me that I couldn't return unless the physical object was in my hand, regardless of if it shipped to me or the store. The ETA was 12/3, so I cancelled.

I got to the 2nd store that was supposed to have 4 and I didn't see any on the shelf. Waited 10-15 minutes and had the attention of a staff person and explained that another BB said they had 4. She disappears and I'm thinking "... some people hid them! Hmm, I'm going to have to do another Easter egg hunt...." When I was less than 10 years old I was turned loose with hundreds of kids in a supermarket to search for little colored candy eggs. You find enough of them and you get a prize. There were 12 actual colored eggs, though, numbered 1 through 12. If you found one of these, you got a special prize. I found numbers 2 and 11. I remember one prize was my first baseball glove. It was kind of crappy, though. Well, she comes back with my Ti4200, so no hunt necessary this time.

 

[Muse]

Originally posted by: odoe
Well, for one I hope they don't honor return/rebuys. It really sucks for all those guys that are going to be waiting in line for this deal only to find a bunch of people strolling in and return the card they bought last week and rebuying it at the special price. I don't need the card, but their is a difference between a hot deal, and being a prick.
I asked a guy at BB yesterday about this and he said what may happen is they might just not allow you to rebuy the same card you returned. It would just go in the back, and maybe back on the shelf the same day. This was BB in West Covina, CA.

Jeez, I didn't think I was being a prick. But while I was waiting for the staff person to look and see if they had any stashed in back (the shelf was empty) I WAS thinking that anyone who would stroll into the store and hide a box so they could buy it Friday WAS indeed a prick. They could just as easily do what I did - buy it at full price before Friday and come in and return/rebuy. At least they wouldn't be responsible for people driving from one store to another in expectations of finding cards their computers show are in stock but are actually hidden behind washing machines. What are the ethics here? I know one thing - I'm not into standing in line for 4 hours to have a shot at this deal. If they won't let me return and rebuy Friday, I'll just get my money back. Meantime, the box will remain in shrinkwrap. This card is for Baby Rigzilla, below, currently with a Matrox Millenium 4 MB card.

 

[alluu]

Muse,

Which store did you go to. The Emeryville, Pinole, Union City stores didnt have any. I ordered online and none of those stores supposedly carried them but I was able to pick on up finally at Pleasant Hill.

 

[dongky]

Originally posted by: CyOp

Originally posted by: QuantumSlip
but you can usually o/c them to 64MB speeds, and a little bit beyond.

The 64MB cards are faster. The 128's just do not OC as well as the 64's, simple as that. (Obviously, you can get lucky, but your chances are much smaller.) If you have a high-end computer, then you should have a Ti-4400 or above, or you are just wasting your 'comp power'. I would use a 128 Ti-4200 for a low-end comp that cannot push the vid card. In that case, the OC is not so important, but at least you have more vid RAM.


Edit...
Heck, I would really not recommend a 128MB Ti-4200 for any system. I would recomment the 64MB and get the higher OC.

the statement should be...
I would really not recommend a 128MB Ti-4200 for your system. But this one is perfect on mine.
you wish

 

[CyOp]

Originally posted by: Kelvrick
"Tis true, but if someone isn't planning on upgrading any time soon, the 128mb version is better. Right now the 64mb versions are faster, but as time goes on, the 128 will do better in the end. Of course, this is only for someone who won't upgrade again in like 3 months."


I do not see your reasoning here. I would assume most reputable hardware review sites would not either. Seeing as how on comparisons of the two, the 64MB card shows to be faster, whether OC'ed or not. These benches being done on very good systems, also.

The 128MB Ti-4200's can be considered a 'marketing ploy' more than a performance card.

Obviously, if a person can pick up a 128 for $90, or a 64 for $115, that person would just have to decide if he would rather spend the extra $25 on the better performance of the 64MB card.

I have built and tested with both. With only performance in mind, even upgrading and keeping the same video card, I would recommend and choose the 64MB card.

Since this is a deal board and not a tech site, I will refrain from further comment. Feel free to have the last word on this, if you must.

 

[HeroOfPellinor]

Originally posted by: alluu
Muse,

Which store did you go to. The Emeryville, Pinole, Union City stores didnt have any. I ordered online and none of those stores supposedly carried them but I was able to pick on up finally at Pleasant Hill.

With all the time and gas money you've spent trying to get in on this deal you could have paid retail for this thing.

 

[CyOp]

Originally posted by: dongky
"the statement should be...
I would really not recommend a 128MB Ti-4200 for your system. But this one is perfect on mine.
you wish"

Of course, this is true, to each his own.


Edit... fixed tag.

 

[Muse]

Originally posted by: alluu
Muse,

Which store did you go to. The Emeryville, Pinole, Union City stores didnt have any. I ordered online and none of those stores supposedly carried them but I was able to pick on up finally at Pleasant Hill.

I went to Emeryville this morning, around 10 AM. The shelf was empty and a guy scanned the tag and said they didn't have any but the Pleasant Hill, Pinole and Dublin stores had them in stock. He told me how many each store had (2 to 4). I asked which was closer to me (Berkeley) and he said Pinole and that they had 4. In an hour I had it, but the shelf was empty - they went back and got one for me. I presume they had more in back...

Edit: Since there's a controversy about whether it's smarter to get the 64 MB Asylum, I noticed plenty such cards on the shelf in Emeryville and Pinole.

 

[alluu]

Originally posted by: HeroOfPellinor

Originally posted by: alluu
Muse,

Which store did you go to. The Emeryville, Pinole, Union City stores didnt have any. I ordered online and none of those stores supposedly carried them but I was able to pick on up finally at Pleasant Hill.

With all the time and gas money you've spent trying to get in on this deal you could have paid retail for this thing.

Didnt go to any store except the Pleasant Hill one. I just ordered it online and waited for the email confirmation. The lazy man way. Then when I received the confirm from Pleasant Hill, I called to make sure they had it before going there. BTW, these stores are all within 15 mile radius of where I live and Emeryville is 2 blocks away. So at least I will be sleeping in on Friday with my card already in hand.

 

[alluu]

Originally posted by: Muse

Originally posted by: alluu
Muse,

Which store did you go to. The Emeryville, Pinole, Union City stores didnt have any. I ordered online and none of those stores supposedly carried them but I was able to pick on up finally at Pleasant Hill.

I went to Emeryville this morning, around 10 AM. The shelf was empty and a guy scanned the tag and said they didn't have any but the Pleasant Hill, Pinole and Dublin stores had them in stock. He told me how many each store had (2 to 4). I asked which was closer to me (Berkeley) and he said Pinole and that they had 4. In an hour I had it, but the shelf was empty - they went back and got one for me. I presume they had more in back...

Very interesting, BB is getting smarter and stashing their stuff. Cause I ordered online from those stores and all except the Pleasant Hill store sent me an email saying we dont have it stock or dont carry it.

 

[lefort]

Two Comments:

First, I don't quite understand the math. Correct the calculations below if I am wrong.

TI4200 -$199.00
minus 50.00 instant
minus 80.00 MIR
--------------------------
$69.00
I am not sure where the $89.00 comes in unless you are speaking after tax

I used $20.00 Gift Card making my total (if my math is right) $49.00+tax

Second, just went to the Best Buy next to my house and bought card. Looked all over for it and finally asked if they had in stock. They had it hid so well they couldn't find it. The funny thing was as my CSR was asking various people where the card was I would see them look over his shoulder at me and kinda grin. Then as we were walking to the cards reported hiding place (behind the desk) I mentioned to him that a "little bird" had told me that the card was going to be on sale on Friday, which he confirmed. Also confirmed that my store (16066) only had about 30 in stock.

Did verify that I could do price adjust on Friday, as long as I get there in the "special sale" time window.

Personally, I think this will be a nice update for my system from the Geforce 3 TI200 from last year. Thanks for the original post.

 

[Kelvrick]

Originally posted by: CyOp
Originally posted by: Kelvrick
"Tis true, but if someone isn't planning on upgrading any time soon, the 128mb version is better. Right now the 64mb versions are faster, but as time goes on, the 128 will do better in the end. Of course, this is only for someone who won't upgrade again in like 3 months."


I do not see your reasoning here. I would assume most reputable hardware review sites would not either. Seeing as how on comparisons of the two, the 64MB card shows to be faster, whether OC'ed or not. These benches being done on very good systems, also.

The 128MB Ti-4200's can be considered a 'marketing ploy' more than a performance card.

Obviously, if a person can pick up a 128 for $90, or a 64 for $115, that person would just have to decide if he would rather spend the extra $25 on the better performance of the 64MB card.

I have built and tested with both. With only performance in mind, even upgrading and keeping the same video card, I would recommend and choose the 64MB card.

Since this is a deal board and not a tech site, I will refrain from further comment. Feel free to have the last word on this, if you must.

Ok, so the 64mb version has a 66mhz jump on the 128mb version and so is usually able to outperform. But, since the 128mb version has twice the amount of memory, as the quantity and quality of cached textures increases, 64MB of memory proves insufficient. So if you anticipate frequent video card upgrades, a 64MB card will best suit your needs. Conversely, the 128MB version will work well for the long haul.

<== monkey dance

EDIT: I don't want to have the last word. So this particular forum isn't a tech section, but its still a tech community. Also, since its a deal board, it would be better if we argue it out and let the other buyers know exactly what they're buying and give them a broader view on things. If I'm wrong, then I'm wrong and I learn something new. Please comment again.

 

[Flaredair]

lefort, the card comes with a $55.00 instant rebate and a $55.00 mail in rebate.

 

[Flaredair]

Northern NJ Update here. (Based upon actual visit to each store mentioned)

128MB TI4200 video card
Paramus, NJ >>> (0) stock
Totowa, Nj >>> (1) stock

 

[MrGoodTimes]

What I'd like to know is how the 10 % off Best Buy coupon will work with this????

Will it be AFTER the $55 IR or BEFORE?????

...or will it even work at all???

 

[patrickj]

Originally posted by: CyOp
Originally posted by: Kelvrick
"Tis true, but if someone isn't planning on upgrading any time soon, the 128mb version is better. Right now the 64mb versions are faster, but as time goes on, the 128 will do better in the end. Of course, this is only for someone who won't upgrade again in like 3 months."


I do not see your reasoning here. I would assume most reputable hardware review sites would not either. Seeing as how on comparisons of the two, the 64MB card shows to be faster, whether OC'ed or not. These benches being done on very good systems, also.

The 128MB Ti-4200's can be considered a 'marketing ploy' more than a performance card.

Obviously, if a person can pick up a 128 for $90, or a 64 for $115, that person would just have to decide if he would rather spend the extra $25 on the better performance of the 64MB card.

I have built and tested with both. With only performance in mind, even upgrading and keeping the same video card, I would recommend and choose the 64MB card.

Since this is a deal board and not a tech site, I will refrain from further comment. Feel free to have the last word on this, if you must.

Considering I have an OEM GF2 with 32Mb of DDR, I think the 128Mb card will be a fine upgrade. I used to really be concered about the newest, fastest stuff...but I guess I have kind of grown out of that. Bottom line is that next year there will be a deal on the next generation card and I'll probably buy it. Until then, I'll save a few hundred dollars not being the fastest but still being able to play Quake 3 online and kick ass and put that money elsewhere...just my .02

 

[HeroOfPellinor]

Originally posted by: MrGoodTimes
What I'd like to know is how the 10 % off Best Buy coupon will work with this????

Will it be AFTER the $55 IR or BEFORE?????

...or will it even work at all???

Should work...would be applied after IR though.

 

[drx9175l]

robwilliams said:

As of last night, BB in Beaverton, OR didn't have any on the shelf...

Thanks Rob, you saved me a trip out there. I remember last year, the line was around the back of Winco Foods by 6am. Funny thing was that I didn't even want to buy anything. I was there with a friend who was trying to get the GeForce 3. It was quite fun to watch everyone else stress out. I've got to work this year, otherwise I'd go again just to watch the free show.