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michal1980

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Irrational feelings of fear & persecution are apparently part of the package.

How do we define "exterminate", anyway?

Subsidizing your healthcare if you need it?
Food & housing subsidies the same way?
Clean air & water?
Pure food & drugs?
Truth in lending?
Farm subsidies to stabilize price & production?
National forests, parks & monuments?
Car seats?
Building & fire codes?

Will you die from having such inhibitions on your freedumbs, or what?

All laws passed by liberals based on fears of something bad happening.
 

Moonbeam

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All laws passed by liberals based on fears of something bad happening.

That is how you work so you can't see any other way that liberals can, but the fact is that all of what you call fear based irrational laws are based rational and scientific assessments of risk based on pure intellect and empathy for others.

The only thing that saves you from self destruction due to your nut case incapacities is the fact that you are surrounded by more rational people. Take that away and you would self destruct, you poor bastard.
 

Moonbeam

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If you want to see the unconscious fears of liberals look to the entertainment industry where their creatively expressive dominate and watch any Zombie ridden movie to see what it's like to live in a world full of brain defectives intent on wiping out the uninfected. You will see there also the conservatives bent on counter-destruction while the liberals look for a cure.
 

Londo_Jowo

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http://www.psp.org/education/cbd.html

CBD

What is CBD?


Corticobasal degeneration (CBD) is a neurodegenerative brain disease that has no known cause, treatment or cure. It affects nerve cells that control walking, balance, mobility, vision, speech, and swallowing.
CBD is rare, affecting an estimated 2000-3000 people in United States, of whom only 500-750 are diagnosed.
Symptoms begin, on average, when an individual is in the early 60's, but may start as early as in the 40's. These include:

  • Stiffness, shakiness, jerkiness, slowness, and clumsiness in either the upper or lower extremities
  • Difficulty with speech generation (dysphasia)
  • Difficulty articulation (dysarthria)
  • Difficulty controlling the muscles of the face and mouth
  • Walking and balance difficulty
  • Asymmetric onset of symptoms (occuring on one side of the body first then gradually moving to the other side)
  • Memory or behavior problems
 

cubby1223

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this isn't a callout thread.

but did a forum member actually term this? and it's spreading.

i've heard it outside of ATPN.


why?
The best explanation I've found is "CBD" is the term used by people whom for whatever reason had someone in their life make them feel like they were a defective person, and this is just turnaround.
 

FerrelGeek

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CBD

What is CBD?


Corticobasal degeneration (CBD) is a neurodegenerative brain disease that has no known cause, treatment or cure. It affects nerve cells that control walking, balance, mobility, vision, speech, and swallowing.
CBD is rare, affecting an estimated 2000-3000 people in United States, of whom only 500-750 are diagnosed.
Symptoms begin, on average, when an individual is in the early 60's, but may start as early as in the 40's. These include:

Stiffness, shakiness, jerkiness, slowness, and clumsiness in either the upper or lower extremities
Difficulty with speech generation (dysphasia)
Difficulty articulation (dysarthria)
Difficulty controlling the muscles of the face and mouth
Walking and balance difficulty
Asymmetric onset of symptoms (occuring on one side of the body first then gradually moving to the other side)
Memory or behavior problems

Reminds me of Pelosi and Biden.
 

Moonbeam

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The best explanation I've found is "CBD" is the term used by people whom for whatever reason had someone in their life make them feel like they were a defective person, and this is just turnaround.

I think you could find a better one if you stopped looking up your ass.
 

Moonbeam

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Reminds me of Pelosi and Biden.

You mean that's an aspect of the delusionary drivel created in the alternate conservative bubble reality provided by Fox News et al, pink elephants created to comfort the paranoid that they know where the danger lies. It's your brain defect that's your enemy you poor patsy.
 

Greenman

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So instead of substantively attacking the methodologies of the accumulated scientific research, you find an "explanation" that allows you to discount the research results.

You aren't a conservative by any chance, are you?

So your suggesting that I should give credence to this stupidity? What about the study that shows most sex offenders are liberals? Should I ask you to depute that, or should I ignore it as another worthless study by an idiot who couldn't find a real job? Just in case you didn't know, people with an ax to grind can do "studies" as well. The name doesn't automatically impart infallibility to the document.

I simply can't grasp the burning need you guys have to prove yourselves superior. It's like you have unlimited self esteem and no backbone. You think the way to change someones mind or get them to accept a new idea is by belittling them, and you only do that behind the safety of a keyboard. To me, most of you come across as foolish, frightened, and with enormous egos.
 

ivwshane

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So your suggesting that I should give credence to this stupidity? What about the study that shows most sex offenders are liberals? Should I ask you to depute that, or should I ignore it as another worthless study by an idiot who couldn't find a real job? Just in case you didn't know, people with an ax to grind can do "studies" as well. The name doesn't automatically impart infallibility to the document.

I simply can't grasp the burning need you guys have to prove yourselves superior. It's like you have unlimited self esteem and no backbone. You think the way to change someones mind or get them to accept a new idea is by belittling them, and you only do that behind the safety of a keyboard. To me, most of you come across as foolish, frightened, and with enormous egos.

Can you site multiple, peer reviewed, or studies featured in respectable science journals? Yes? Then by all means have at it, post them up!
 

MrPickins

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Having set myself the task of somehow making up to you for calling you an idiot, I don't want, here, to ignore your post in case it was addressed to me, but at the same time I have nothing to say because, in addition to not knowing whom you intended that, I also have no idea what Futurama is. Just so you know.

That's nice of you, but there is no need to make it up to me; I have pretty thick skin, especially when it comes to thing said in this sub-forum.

As for the Futurama question, that was completely off topic, and directed at zanejohnson. The screenshot in his OP show part of the closing credits for the show.


I suppose I'll get back on topic and discuss my feelings on CBD :

It's a pretty pathetic way to attempt to smear an entire group of people that happen to disagree with you. :thumbsdown:
 

D-Man

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And bullshit applied in the proper amount makes the grass grow green. Just my CBD showing.
 

Texashiker

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It could be that I just have a CBD, an irrational fear of fear ridden people and like every other possessor of the defect, simply can't see that what looks for all the world to be a rational fear isn't.

Oh moonbeam, you funny thing you.

Fear does not drive conservatives.

Compassion, family values, taking responsibility for your actions and respect for the law drives conservatives.

The only thing we fear is breaking the law, going to jail and getting ass raped. This would probably be a liberals wet dream, but it scares the crap out of conservatives.

If loving my family, friends and people in general means I have a brain defect, then so be it.

Moonbeam, do you know the Israel test is? Opposite the Israel test, do you feel compassion for those in need of help.

We all know liberals are incapable of compassion. The term bleeding heart liberal is an oxymoron. While liberals may want to help people, liberals lay traps that ensure a family will never rise above poverty.

In other words, liberals are greedy liars.

If feeling compassion and not being a greedy liar makes me a conservative, then so be it.
 

Oldgamer

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CBD, is based on actual scientific studies. However the "defect", isn't part of the scientific studies but is simply used as a pejorative of such thinking.


What's funny is that those who seem to have this trait deny the scientific findings which only reinforces the scientific findings!

LMAO.. true!
 

werepossum

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I can think of at least five or six ATPN posters who are waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaay out there on the right. I mean, does the left here have anyone remotely equivalent to a frequent hard-right poster who revels at the chance to shoot to kill anyone who knocks on his door? How many lefties here take special "medicine" hawked by right-wing websites as protection against Ebola? And more generally, how many lefties here consistently reject scientific consensus in favor of a world view filled with conspiracies?
Because "everyone who disagrees with me has a brain defect" is scientific and rational. Gotcha.
 

Moonbeam

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Because "everyone who disagrees with me has a brain defect" is scientific and rational. Gotcha.

Of course not. It's your brain defect that even allows you to put that out there as some sort of actually viable alternative when it's just plain stupid. If you were to claim, and I hope you do, that poor people shouldn't be given money as an endless way of life, given no lifelong disabilities that would prevent them from contributing something, you are right. But if you think that poverty is the result of bad decisions and the fault of the poor, you would be full of shit.

But to understand the issue comprehensively requires a higher perspective, understanding of human nature, not as you learned it from other ideological robots, but as it is in reality. The truth isn't the alternatives but some third way.
 

Moonbeam

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It's a pretty pathetic way to attempt to smear an entire group of people that happen to disagree with you. :thumbsdown:

Why do you say it smears them. Where did I mention anything we disagree on?

I referred to the known science on the conservative brain and particularly the emphasis that conservatives put on certain moral concepts that liberals don't that causes scientists quite sympathetic to conservatives to remark on how dangerous their condition is in times without external enemies. Conservatives, far more than liberals, have moral values in relationship to groups and authorities and certain religious concepts like purity that liberals don't have which cause conservatives to demonize outside groups, groups that throughout history were external but now include folk like me, home grown liberals. This internal cannibalization of the nation to promote group identity, is danger to the nation and I have called it a defect in thinking. And because these things are scientific facts that have been observed and cause conservative scientists, rare though they are, some serious distress and compels them to find answers as to how to penetrate the bubble blindness that goes with the trait.

So if you don't think that the right demonizes the left more so than the other way, which has been shown by science to be true, and if you don't think that the internal destruction of what should be liberal conservative cooperative thinking that is more comprehensive and intelligent than either alone, then I don't really think you know what a defect is.
 

OverVolt

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You mean that's an aspect of the delusionary drivel created in the alternate conservative bubble reality provided by Fox News et al, pink elephants created to comfort the paranoid that they know where the danger lies. It's your brain defect that's your enemy you poor patsy.

You know alot of times Fox will do more real journalism and run with stories where they had to find information themselves and CNN will run with just about any random bullshit circulating social media.

I know fox is like a borderline circus of misinformation sometimes, its just that CNN is the same way and you don't see it on the CNN/MSNBC side. Fox really is about 4x bigger than CNN and will do more 'real' journalism, even if it is slanted.
 

werepossum

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Of course not. It's your brain defect that even allows you to put that out there as some sort of actually viable alternative when it's just plain stupid. If you were to claim, and I hope you do, that poor people shouldn't be given money as an endless way of life, given no lifelong disabilities that would prevent them from contributing something, you are right. But if you think that poverty is the result of bad decisions and the fault of the poor, you would be full of shit.

But to understand the issue comprehensively requires a higher perspective, understanding of human nature, not as you learned it from other ideological robots, but as it is in reality. The truth isn't the alternatives but some third way.
See, my conservative brain sees that issue as much more nuanced. Poor people without disabilities that would prevent them from contributing something should not receive endless support money, but neither should they be cut off and left to starve. Similarly, poverty can be and often is the result of bad decisions and the fault of the poor person or the poor person's parents. If we don't recognize this, then how can we hope to ever get that person out of poverty? If someone simply will not be responsible and contribute, then how do you propose getting them to be responsible and contribute without conceding that refusal to be responsible and contribute leads to poverty? If developing no useful, marketable skills while downloading yet another child process every year results in poverty - and it almost universally does - then pretending that poverty just somehow happened to them does that person a grave disservice.

This brings to mind the doctors trying to treat morbidly obese children by first assuring them that their obesity is not their fault, without recognizing that it's their behavior that must change to solve the obesity. If we must attempt to change behavior to get a desired result, it makes no sense to pretend that behaviors which prevent that result are somehow not germane. Similarly, if someone plays XBox and drinks beer and smokes weed all day rather than developing a marketable skill and seeking employment, that person will likely be poor, even if Uncle Sugar keeps them from fully feeling the pangs of poverty. Should we then hope to somehow get that person to become a productive member of society while denying that his or her own behavior is WHY he or she is poor? I'm all for ignoring the poor person's past as much as is practical, but if the person's behavior is the reason for the poverty then it's difficult to see how that person ever gets out of poverty.
 

OverVolt

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Why do you say it smears them. Where did I mention anything we disagree on?

I referred to the known science on the conservative brain and particularly the emphasis that conservatives put on certain moral concepts that liberals don't that causes scientists quite sympathetic to conservatives to remark on how dangerous their condition is in times without external enemies. Conservatives, far more than liberals, have moral values in relationship to groups and authorities and certain religious concepts like purity that liberals don't have which cause conservatives to demonize outside groups, groups that throughout history were external but now include folk like me, home grown liberals. This internal cannibalization of the nation to promote group identity, is danger to the nation and I have called it a defect in thinking. And because these things are scientific facts that have been observed and cause conservative scientists, rare though they are, some serious distress and compels them to find answers as to how to penetrate the bubble blindness that goes with the trait.

So if you don't think that the right demonizes the left more so than the other way, which has been shown by science to be true, and if you don't think that the internal destruction of what should be liberal conservative cooperative thinking that is more comprehensive and intelligent than either alone, then I don't really think you know what a defect is.
Dream on! Our system is set up for compromise.

Alot of these studies are just correlation. Like how butter is bad for you one day and good for you the next depending how you run the correlation and what factors you look at. Combined with Psychology which I feel is already a pretty weak science... meh. This will come back to bite the democrats as the equivalent of phrenology when people look back on it.
 

werepossum

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Dream on! Our system is set up for compromise.

Alot of these studies are just correlation. Like how butter is bad for you one day and good for you the next depending how you run the correlation and what factors you look at. Combined with Psychology which I feel is already a pretty weak science... meh. This will come back to bite the democrats as the equivalent of phrenology when people look back on it.
The modern Democrat Party is based on the assumption that people are stupid. If one is unable to decide what to drink with lunch, unable to provide one's own health insurance/education/day care, unable to even provide one's own contraception, then one probably has nary a clue what is phrenology, nor any basis of comparison to the new "science" of why conservatives are just automatically wrong on every issue and thus there's no need to actually debate anything.
 
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