Sure it does, if more people fell off. If 3,000,000 people are no longer being counted then that's 1% of our population and would drop it from 9.6% to 8.6% and show "growth" in the system. I do not believe that there has been growth, just sideways movement at best and we're being given fairy tale numbers. (obviously that math is bogus and doesn't represent real shit, just an example)
woolfe, do you believe these numbers? Did you believe them 6 months ago? How about a year ago? 2 years before that? We haven't had REAL unemployment figures posted by the government in over a decade.
What do you mean, do I "believe" them? I don't think there is a conspiracy to manipulate them, no. There's no evidence of any such conspiracy. Do I "believe" they give a true state of all unemployment? No, but then they aren't designed to.
As to your first point, that people "fell off," that would be because they exited the job market and when surveyed by the BLS, they said they weren't looking for a job and hence didn't get counted as "unemployed." It's totally fair to point that out, and the BLS report does exactly that. It provides you with the participation rate and tells you how many people entered or left the job market. This data is then reported in the press along with the unemployment rate. Go ahead, read any MSM article out today about this report. They all tell you about the number of people leaving the job market, and they all caution the reader to take this into consideration. Nothing is being hidden here. No one is trying to flim flam you.
What I'm getting from your posts is that you're going to believe whatever your "gut" tells you about the economy. That's fine, but it's essentially worthless for intelligent discussion of the macro-economy. The macro-economy can only be assessed with statistics. If you're telling me not to "believe" any of the statistics, then there is zero to discuss about the economy, because personal hunches and anecdotal stories are irrelevant and so that leaves no admissible evidence whatsoever.
- wolf