Unemployment question...

[phucheneh]

I know, LOL, 'ATOT' and 'unemployment' don't go together. Millionaires aren't unemployed.:whiste:

But seriously, this seems pretty basic and I think I'm doing my best to not be anything that can be perceived as a 'freeloader.'

I got laid off for claimed financial reasons last month. Like December 15th, I think. Very clearly put to me as 'laid off' due to insufficient payroll capacity; not competency or behavioral reasons.

I am in talks with someone else right now. It seems like a pretty sure thing, but I have done a LOT of interviewing and waiting, and was now told today that I'd hear from them in 24 hours when they'd kind of 'worked some things out,' to include pay specifics. I know generally what to expect, and value the environment over max pay, so that's not a big issue. I know some people in other industries probably think it's dumb to have pretty much 'accepted' a non-finalized offer, but meh...you'd have to know the situation.

If I started immediately, it would probably be two weeks before I saw a check. I don't know how immediately I may start, anyhow, as I am essentially coming in to replace an under-performing soon-to-be former employee. I want the job and am trying not to be pushy with questions.

Anyway...last boss was kind of a jackass. And a hardcore right-winger. Has already provided a positive reference. Did not feel the need to grace me with an official dismissal slip to make an unemployment claim easier. I did not want to file for fear of losing the positive reference, and instead getting smeared as a goddamn-freeloadin'-obama-lover. Or something.

Should I go ahead and file? I'm running out of money here, and sure could use that last month of pay. I'm thinking of going to old boss and updating him on the situation and HOPING that he will see reason in my request...I dunno...just looking for any helpful advice anyone can offer, I guess. I've never used unemployment and don't know how they see the fact that you have prospects.

 

[Tweak155]

If you don't need the money, I wouldn't waste your time. You should however receive pay for any weeks in which you did not earn money if you go through the motions. Not sure if it will pay off given the time span.

EDIT:

I just read the end where you say you need the money, lol. Go for it if you have nothing else to do. Your company will have to legally fight not providing you unemployment if you pursue it. I don't think it will be as hard to get approval as it will be to get the damn state to write you a check.

 

[yllus]

Of course you should file. You should file the very day you get terminated.

 

[phucheneh]

I know it's not much. I think it's like 300 or 350 a week max in my state. But it would be the difference in paying the bills and...not.

 

[rudeguy]

I know it's not much. I think it's like 300 or 350 a week max in my state. But it would be the difference in paying the bills and...not.

file ASAP

It usually takes a while to kick in and even longer if your former employer fights it. FILE NOW. QUIT READING....GO FILE!!!!!

 

[Tobolo]

File immediately!!! And if the jackass denies you have the right to appeal the ruling. In most states you can request an in person hearing (don't do the phone!). Bring in that reference letter and you should be home free.

Unemployment will also back pay to the date you file.

Source: Had to sue for my wife recently. We spanked his arse.

 

[IndyColtsFan]

Sorry to hear that OP -- it always sucks, but doubly so at the holidays. As others have said, file ASAP -- you don't know what might happen with your other interviews and they could all fall through.

 

[SandEagle]

file now. nothing wrong with being a freeloader.

 

[jaedaliu]

file right now.

Every state is different. California waited 2 weeks before I could get a check. I read that it was 2 weeks after leaving work (I quit and used trailing spouse clause, CA has it, many don't) so I waited 2 weeks to file.

Turns out it was 2 weeks from filing.

File now. If you get a job before you get your first check, there's no harm. If you don't, there's no more waiting period.

 

[jaedaliu]

file now. nothing wrong with being a freeloader.

oh, and freeloader isn't the right term, you had been paying unemployment insurance when you worked.

 

[Strk]

You get unemployment because you were employed. I see nothing wrong with collecting it if you're let go through no fault of your own.

 

[phucheneh]

I might be retarded.

Does retro unemployment only go back to the date of filing? For some reason I had assumed that it would extend to the date of termination.

But that's...logical. Allows people to evaluate the need before filing. So obviously not how a government operation actually works, right?

 

[skimple]

So, despite your political trolling...

Go file now. The government moves very slow so you likely won't see any money right away. But if your new "position" doesn't work out, you will be already be set up to "resume benefits" if you need them.

How much of your unemployment benefit your previous employer actually pays, and how much is supplemented by the state, varies not only be state, but by a lot of other factors.

And your assumption that "right-wingers' think you're an "Obama-lover" because you file for unemployment shows that you drink a lot of kool-aid. Most "right-wingers" that I know think unemployment is a good program if its not being abused. But milking it for 99 weeks doesn't make you an Obama-lover, it makes you a deadbeat.

 

[MixMasterTang]

Like said above, file now. But I don't think you're going to get unemployment for the last 4 weeks, only for upcoming weeks.

 

[Tweak155]

I might be retarded.

Does retro unemployment only go back to the date of filing? For some reason I had assumed that it would extend to the date of termination.

But that's...logical. Allows people to evaluate the need before filing. So obviously not how a government operation actually works, right?

Lol! Either way, your best bet is to file NOW.

 

[7window]

file it merrily

 

[phucheneh]

So, despite your political trolling...

Go file now. The government moves very slow so you likely won't see any money right away. But if your new "position" doesn't work out, you will be already be set up to "resume benefits" if you need them.

How much of your unemployment benefit your previous employer actually pays, and how much is supplemented by the state, varies not only be state, but by a lot of other factors.

And your assumption that "right-wingers' think you're an "Obama-lover" because you file for unemployment shows that you drink a lot of kool-aid. Most "right-wingers" that I know think unemployment is a good program if its not being abused. But milking it for 99 weeks doesn't make you an Obama-lover, it makes you a deadbeat.

Go away. There was no political trolling. If you're butthurt because you feel you fall into the group of blind followers on EITHER side of the coin, that's your issue and not mine.

I listened to the guy bitch about 'goddamn illegals' and 'goddamn obamacare' and 'goddamn welfare' and all that shit every day. And I am of the opinion that he intentionally avoided the subject of unemployment and providing me with the needed dismissal paperwork to file immediately and not be questioned.

edit: if you'd rather I call it a 'Fox News Republican' or something to differentiate that 'type' from your own political beliefs, that's fine. But I had no political intentions in the original post and felt I worded it both vaguely and sarcastically enough to not invite debate.

 

[Atomic Playboy]

Don't file. I'm not saying that because I believe it's correct, I just didn't want to seem like I was copying everyone else.

 

[torpid]

You MAY be able to get back pay but it is not guaranteed. You will likely need to speak to a claims specialist over the phone and eligibility will be wildly different in each state and depending on circumstances.

Unemployment is more or less an insurance product for the initial unemployment term and is only minimally government-funded. Employers pay into it for each employee and then when someone is laid off their fund pays out. It is largely a state-managed program until your initial period runs out or unless you have special circumstances. It would be weird for your boss to treat you differently thinking you are mooching off federal money. Less weird but still somewhat illogical if he knows it is largely state money/run.

 

[iRONic]

I might be retarded.

Does retro unemployment only go back to the date of filing? For some reason I had assumed that it would extend to the date of termination.

But that's...logical. Allows people to evaluate the need before filing. So obviously not how a government operation actually works, right?

Might?!!

shitLOL!

 

[slag]

oh, and freeloader isn't the right term, you had been paying unemployment insurance when you worked.

Show me on your check stub where it shows what you paid into unemployment. I can't find it on mine.

 

[JACKIE]

Unsure if "back pay" is eligible but most states do have a waiting period and your previous time unemployed should count towards that waiting period.

Unemployment is technically Unemployment Insurance. We typically do not fight unemployment claims simply because we are already paying the highest premium. Only should the termination be for serious just cause.

Your previous employer is not going to be directly footing the bill for your $350 weekly benefit. Not that you should feel bad anyhow. It's what unemployment insurance is for, use it.

 

[Tweak155]

Show me on your check stub where it shows what you paid into unemployment. I can't find it on mine.

It's part of your state taxes as unemployment is paid by the state.

 

[rudeguy]

You will get unemployment back to your date of termination if you don't wait too long.

HURRY! GO FILE NOW!!!!!!!!!!!

 

[slag]

It's part of your state taxes as unemployment is paid by the state.

Not true. Employers pay unemployment, not employees. You won't find it deducted on your check because you don't pay into it. It's a common misconception.