Universal Healthcare in the US

[Young Grasshopper]

If we had universal healthcare in the USA, what kind of wait time one would expect for things like surgeries? I had nasal surgery and it took about a month and a half from the time the doctor scheduling it for myself. Also would an obese/drug addict/alcoholic type person get priority in procedure scheduling over a healthy male/female for the same procedure simply because they reported it earlier? How does this work in other countries? Do the healthy get priority over people who simply never took care of themselves?

 

[zinfamous]

If we had universal healthcare in the USA, what kind of wait time one would expect for things like surgeries? I had nasal surgery and it took about a month and a half from the time the doctor scheduling it for myself. Also would an obese/drug addict/alcoholic type person get priority in procedure scheduling over a healthy male/female for the same procedure simply because they reported it earlier? How does this work in other countries? Do the healthy get priority over people who simply never took care of themselves?

In other countries, the unhealthy people are harvested for proteins and fluids for food to sustain the healthy people, eliminate the living misery of said unhealthy people and their wretched lives, and to reduce the queue for healthcare. It's win-win-win!

 

[feralkid]

First the children are harvested at the border for stem cell extraction, then the alcoholics and overweight people are shipped to Japan, where they are allowed to fuck whales while you sit in the waiting room.
But there's free pizza in the basement, along with bhut mai imaehls.

 

[JSt0rm]

If we had universal healthcare in the USA, what kind of wait time one would expect for things like surgeries? I had nasal surgery and it took about a month and a half from the time the doctor scheduling it for myself. Also would an obese/drug addict/alcoholic type person get priority in procedure scheduling over a healthy male/female for the same procedure simply because they reported it earlier? How does this work in other countries? Do the healthy get priority over people who simply never took care of themselves?

the mind of a retard.

 

[MixMasterTang]

If you are actual interested in reading the UK's e-Referral system would be a good place to start. Initially the National Health System in the UK did have a lot of issues with getting things like nasal surgeries scheduled because there was little integration between hospitals, so some would be booked to capacity for months there were other hospitals that had tons of available appointments. With the use of technology a lot of the long wait times you've heard about in advanced countries with universal healthcare become a non-issue.

https://my-oscar.nhs.uk/documents/FAQ-e-Referral-Service-for-Referrers-V0.3.pdf

 

[MixMasterTang]

So if you needed to get surgery for your haemorrhoids in Liverpool there are places you could get it within 14 weeks.

https://www.nhs.uk/service-search/Hospital/Liverpool/Results/386/-2.99/53.412/7/13089?distance=25

 

[sandorski]

Depends on Funding and the system setup.

 

[brycejones]

If we had universal healthcare in the USA, what kind of wait time one would expect for things like surgeries? I had nasal surgery and it took about a month and a half from the time the doctor scheduling it for myself. Also would an obese/drug addict/alcoholic type person get priority in procedure scheduling over a healthy male/female for the same procedure simply because they reported it earlier? How does this work in other countries? Do the healthy get priority over people who simply never took care of themselves?

They also look at who has the best genes and force those people to marry so they have the bestest kids.

Serious question are you still in high school?

 

[umbrella39]

OP concern troll... Please pass the mouse and keyboard to the next Russian in the troll farm basement...

 

[Fanatical Meat]

I’ll play, it will take twice as long for the surgery but would be somewhere around 1/10th the cost to completely free.

 

[shortylickens]

The Canadian side of my family says they are quite happy with how quickly they get in to see doctors.

BUT, keep in mind America is filled with greedy incompetents. If we tried universal health care it would cost 3 times what its worth and be horrifically disorganized.

 

[glenn1]

UHC isn't happening here in our lifetimes so OP question is moot, you might as well ask about what things would be like in the U.S. if we abolished the 2nd Amendment or outlawed abortion. All 3 are mere shiny objects meant to drum up fervor in their respective party's hardcore base and are utterly unacceptable to the other side.

 

[dank69]

UHC isn't happening here in our lifetimes so OP question is moot, you might as well ask about what things would be like in the U.S. if we abolished the 2nd Amendment or outlawed abortion. All 3 are mere shiny objects meant to drum up fervor in their respective party's hardcore base and are utterly unacceptable to the other side.

No way. We cannot continue to pay 2-3x as much as everyone else on the planet because retards like you don't understand the issue.

 

[vi edit]

You'll see universal "payer" before you see universal health. Two very different things. Right now close to 50% of the US is covered by Medicare, Medicaid or the VA. All federal payers. Unifying and folding them into a universal plan is a much straighter path than having fully government operated health care facilities.

 

[dainthomas]

Listened to a podcast on Britain's NHS. Crazy how far ahead of us they were in the 40's compared to where we are now.

 

[dullard]

You'll see universal "payer" before you see universal health. Two very different things. Right now close to 50% of the US is covered by Medicare, Medicaid or the VA. All federal payers. Unifying and folding them into a universal plan is a much straighter path than having fully government operated health care facilities.

And of the remaining amount that is not directly paid for by the US, companies and employees deduct the cost from their taxes, so the remaining is subsidized by the US.

 

[glenn1]

No way. We cannot continue to pay 2-3x as much as everyone else on the planet because retards like you don't understand the issue.

Keep on saying that just like you've been saying it for the last 80+ years with FDR and probably other progressives before that. With as long as you've been waiting you should legally change your name to Godot.

 

[dyna]

And of the remaining amount that is not directly paid for by the US, companies and employees deduct the cost from their taxes, so the remaining is subsidized by the US.

Subsidized by the US still is paid by taxpayers. Even if we had UHC, we would have to tackle the issue of rising healthcare costs in the US beyond the cost efficiencies it would provide. We have Medicare and it also faces issues because of rising costs.

 

[SMOGZINN]

Keep on saying that just like you've been saying it for the last 80+ years with FDR and probably other progressives before that. With as long as you've been waiting you should legally change your name to Godot.

It has taken a long time to get there, but we are closing in to the crisis situation where our current insurance system is going to become unsupportable. If the Republicans continue blowing up the markets I doubt that the average American will be able to afford insurance much longer.

 

[Hayabusa Rider]

I’ll play, it will take twice as long for the surgery but would be somewhere around 1/10th the cost to completely free.

I raise you and say immediately and free!

 

[dyna]

I raise you and say immediately and free!

Only if you go to a converted Walmart on the border.

 

[sdifox]

So much for fiscal conservatism. You dum dums realise the other countries do it because it ends up being cheaper right?

 

[Hayabusa Rider]

So much for fiscal conservatism. You dum dums realise the other countries do it because it ends up being cheaper right?

Yep. Now how are their family wrecking plans coming along? It's not the policy it's the people making it. We can't get something pre-K like border security done right.

 

[vi edit]

Yep. Now how are their family wrecking plans coming along? It's not the policy it's the people making it. We can't get something pre-K like border security done right.

Plus you have to navigate around that completely deranged mentality of entitlements and what constitutes one. They are only bad if someone poorer than me gets one!

 

[SMOGZINN]

So much for fiscal conservatism. You dum dums realise the other countries do it because it ends up being cheaper right?

They were never really fiscally conservative. They were FYGM, which is a economic policy best described as lootocracy.