*** Unofficial ASUS P6T / Deluxe / v2 Thread ***

[chizow]

Originally posted by: Tweakin
There should be no problem using the 775 holes...Slap it on and fire it up! As for your reports of 4Ghz on air, I really think those are few and far between...way too much thermal power to keep cool under air at those speeds. I would say 24/7 is between 3.2 ~3.6Ghz, with those exceptions of low VID's who can hit 3.8Ghz while keeping the temps low...I know I couldn't.

Hmmm do you have a launch i7? I've heard those weren't spectacular OC'ers, but the more recent batches seem to be hitting 3.6+ reliably, with lots of reports of 4GHz+ on air. I know the D0 are set to hit the channel at any point now, but I've heard some reports the newer C0 clock similarly to the D0.

I've also noticed those 4GHz+ i7s have been running seemingly very high Vcore of 1.45-1.5V to get 4GHz+. That seems insanely high to me, but the odd thing is their temps are lower than my Q6600 @ 1.38-1.39V. Perhaps the i7 and 45nm process is less leaky, idk, I haven't paid much attention to i7 chatter, as I didn't plan to upgrade originally until i5.

Just really hard finding good info on i7 since I got it yesterday as Xtremesystems was down. I'll look around a bit more for reliably results, I may just end up holding my C0 sealed and exchange it for a D0 whenever MicroCenter gets them in.

 

[1ManArmY]

Originally posted by: Tweakin

Originally posted by: chizow
Picked up a P6T vanilla today and will be pairing it up with an i7 920 and a TRUE Black. Decided on this board due to price mainly ($230) but also because I've been very happy with my P5Q-E P45 board after a few rocky experiences with Asus.

My RAM should come in tomorrow, so I should have some preliminary results. I googled the batch for my i7 and it looks to be a solid overclocker, with a couple reports of 4GHz+ on air. My expectations aren't that high, I'd be happy with 3.8GHz or so but we'll see.

Edit: Quick question, anyone running this with the TRUE using LGA775 mounting bracket? I saw this board has holes for both 1366 and 775, just want to make sure there's no conflicts.

There should be no problem using the 775 holes...Slap it on and fire it up! As for your reports of 4Ghz on air, I really think those are few and far between...way too much thermal power to keep cool under air at those speeds. I would say 24/7 is between 3.2 ~3.6Ghz, with those exceptions of low VID's who can hit 3.8Ghz while keeping the temps low...I know I couldn't.

hey Tweakin did you ever find some SATA2 cables that would fit in the 1-4 slots? Did you ever do any overclocking with the original 0102 bios? I've been running mine at stock and I'm about to start OCing so I just wanted to get some guidance.

 

[Tweakin]

Originally posted by: 1ManArmY

Originally posted by: Tweakin

Originally posted by: chizow
Picked up a P6T vanilla today and will be pairing it up with an i7 920 and a TRUE Black. Decided on this board due to price mainly ($230) but also because I've been very happy with my P5Q-E P45 board after a few rocky experiences with Asus.

My RAM should come in tomorrow, so I should have some preliminary results. I googled the batch for my i7 and it looks to be a solid overclocker, with a couple reports of 4GHz+ on air. My expectations aren't that high, I'd be happy with 3.8GHz or so but we'll see.

Edit: Quick question, anyone running this with the TRUE using LGA775 mounting bracket? I saw this board has holes for both 1366 and 775, just want to make sure there's no conflicts.

There should be no problem using the 775 holes...Slap it on and fire it up! As for your reports of 4Ghz on air, I really think those are few and far between...way too much thermal power to keep cool under air at those speeds. I would say 24/7 is between 3.2 ~3.6Ghz, with those exceptions of low VID's who can hit 3.8Ghz while keeping the temps low...I know I couldn't.

hey Tweakin did you ever find some SATA2 cables that would fit in the 1-4 slots? Did you ever do any overclocking with the original 0102 bios? I've been running mine at stock and I'm about to start OCing so I just wanted to get some guidance.

I have not found any locking cables that will fit in the side ports...I think that is really not going to happen.

As for 0202, never tried that bios at all...0203 was out and since it was clean, Flashed

 

[1ManArmY]

Originally posted by: Tweakin

Originally posted by: 1ManArmY

Originally posted by: Tweakin

Originally posted by: chizow
Picked up a P6T vanilla today and will be pairing it up with an i7 920 and a TRUE Black. Decided on this board due to price mainly ($230) but also because I've been very happy with my P5Q-E P45 board after a few rocky experiences with Asus.

My RAM should come in tomorrow, so I should have some preliminary results. I googled the batch for my i7 and it looks to be a solid overclocker, with a couple reports of 4GHz+ on air. My expectations aren't that high, I'd be happy with 3.8GHz or so but we'll see.

Edit: Quick question, anyone running this with the TRUE using LGA775 mounting bracket? I saw this board has holes for both 1366 and 775, just want to make sure there's no conflicts.

There should be no problem using the 775 holes...Slap it on and fire it up! As for your reports of 4Ghz on air, I really think those are few and far between...way too much thermal power to keep cool under air at those speeds. I would say 24/7 is between 3.2 ~3.6Ghz, with those exceptions of low VID's who can hit 3.8Ghz while keeping the temps low...I know I couldn't.

hey Tweakin did you ever find some SATA2 cables that would fit in the 1-4 slots? Did you ever do any overclocking with the original 0102 bios? I've been running mine at stock and I'm about to start OCing so I just wanted to get some guidance.

I have not found any locking cables that will fit in the side ports...I think that is really not going to happen.

As for 0202, never tried that bios at all...0203 was out and since it was clean, Flashed

So are you using non-locking SATA2 cables?

 

[Tweakin]

I'm planning on using the stock cables or some of my round cables for ports 1-4. Port 5 will be a 90 locking to keep it out of the way of my sli.

 

[dajeepster]

Originally posted by: Chubblez
Alright, so, P6T Deluxe...

I may be an odd-ball. I'm actually using my SAS ports.

ASUS P6T-Deluxe
i7 920
2G x6 Patriot DDR3 10666 (I think)
HVR-1800
GTX 295 (Evga)
Generic 802.11N wireless card (going to be removed because it sucks ass)
Antec 850 PS
2x Seagate 15K 147G SAS HDD - Mirror
2x WD6400AAKS - Software mirror
Generic internal card reader/floppy combo drive
LianLi PC60-WFsomething
Cooler Master V8 heatsin/fan

I'm running stock settings at the moment. I don't recall bios revisions at the moment, but I was running at ~3.33 without issue. Then I did a bios update, and can't seem to reach it again. Don't really care at the moment. I may try again later.

~Nick

I'm using my SAS ports also... raid0 though... i want speed

 

[chizow]

Set up everything last night, here's a few thoughts about the P6T in my build:

1. 1) Layout is good overall. SATA ports aren't blocked by PEG1 like on my P45. Allows for SLI or CF along with a PCI or PCIE sound card (use PEG3 for PCIE sound card). I'm actually using PEG2 for my single GTX 280 for better spacing and airflow.
   
   2) DIMM location and spacing is also much better, as there's more space between the bottom of the DIMM slots and PEG1.
   
   3) Build quality is mixed. The board is loaded with additonal features compared to my p45, as expected from an X58, but some of the actual components used are lower quality or they noticeably reduced features. Most noticeable is the backplate and much fewer 3-pin fan headers. Other notable downgrades include 1 Realtek NIC compared to 2 Marvell NIC, Foxconn etched ICs all over (not necessarily bad, just screams OEM or generic), fewer included SATA cables, no USB/firewire backplate, etc.
   
   4) Cooling seems pretty light, although I'm not sure how much negative impact this will have on my overclockability. It seems most boards are limited around 216 for Bclock so chipset cooling doesn't seem to hurt the P6T too badly.
   
   5) BIOS is laid out well and overall very straightforward compared to Core 2 Quads and LGA775 chipset boards (both Nvidia and Intel).

Overall the board and BIOS seem very stable and quick. Boot up is fast, with a solid POST cadence that doesn't hit any worrisome snags.

Right now I'm testing 20x195 @ 1.32V for 3.9GHz with HT on and its been stable for about 45 mins of OCCT with HT testing enabled. Lower voltages BSOD pretty quickly, within 5 minutes. Higher clocks, like 20x200 also BSOD without significantly more voltage (1.4V).

My strategy right now is to try and get this stable, if it is, then I'll look at turning off HT and clocking past 4GHz at similar voltages, or to keep HT on and reduce clockspeeds to 3.8GHz or so and lower voltages. I'd be happy if the 3.9GHz with HT ON turns out to be stable at 1.32V as I have it set now.

 

[Tweakin]

Originally posted by: chizow
Set up everything last night, here's a few thoughts about the P6T in my build:

1. 1) Layout is good overall. SATA ports aren't blocked by PEG1 like on my P45. Allows for SLI or CF along with a PCI or PCIE sound card (use PEG3 for PCIE sound card). I'm actually using PEG2 for my single GTX 280 for better spacing and airflow.
   
   2) DIMM location and spacing is also much better, as there's more space between the bottom of the DIMM slots and PEG1.
   
   3) Build quality is mixed. The board is loaded with additonal features compared to my p45, as expected from an X58, but some of the actual components used are lower quality or they noticeably reduced features. Most noticeable is the backplate and much fewer 3-pin fan headers. Other notable downgrades include 1 Realtek NIC compared to 2 Marvell NIC, Foxconn etched ICs all over (not necessarily bad, just screams OEM or generic), fewer included SATA cables, no USB/firewire backplate, etc.
   
   4) Cooling seems pretty light, although I'm not sure how much negative impact this will have on my overclockability. It seems most boards are limited around 216 for Bclock so chipset cooling doesn't seem to hurt the P6T too badly.
   
   5) BIOS is laid out well and overall very straightforward compared to Core 2 Quads and LGA775 chipset boards (both Nvidia and Intel).

Overall the board and BIOS seem very stable and quick. Boot up is fast, with a solid POST cadence that doesn't hit any worrisome snags.

Right now I'm testing 20x195 @ 1.32V for 3.9GHz with HT on and its been stable for about 45 mins of OCCT with HT testing enabled. Lower voltages BSOD pretty quickly, within 5 minutes. Higher clocks, like 20x200 also BSOD without significantly more voltage (1.4V).

My strategy right now is to try and get this stable, if it is, then I'll look at turning off HT and clocking past 4GHz at similar voltages, or to keep HT on and reduce clockspeeds to 3.8GHz or so and lower voltages. I'd be happy if the 3.9GHz with HT ON turns out to be stable at 1.32V as I have it set now.

Which version of the board do you have? I have v2 and it comes with dual Marvell Nics, 4 headers, Firewire and 8 USB ports and 1 eSata on the Header.

As for your results, looking good. I've gotten mine stable with HT at 3.6Ghz @ 1.35 with 50 back-2-back runs of ILP, and Prime 95 for 24 hours in all three (small, large and blend) with HT on with load temps of 56 across the board. At 3.8Ghz and beyond, the additional voltage is just not worth the extra 200~400 Mhz and lack of HT.

Your chip seems to be doing better then mine...

 

[chizow]

Originally posted by: Tweakin
Which version of the board do you have? I have v2 and it comes with dual Marvell Nics, 4 headers, Firewire and 8 USB ports and 1 eSata on the Header.

As for your results, looking good. I've gotten mine stable with HT at 3.6Ghz @ 1.35 with 50 back-2-back runs of ILP, and Prime 95 for 24 hours in all three (small, large and blend) with HT on with load temps of 56 across the board. At 3.8Ghz and beyond, the additional voltage is just not worth the extra 200~400 Mhz and lack of HT.

Your chip seems to be doing better then mine...

Mine's the vanilla P6T, which is about $50-70 cheaper than the P6T Deluxe versions. I got my P5Q-E for $160, which is basically identical to the Deluxe with half the power phases. Its probably more that the P5Q-E has much higher end features relative to price as its one of the best build boards I've owned. The P6T is the most I've paid for a board, but its pretty clear most of that cost is from licensing chipsets and such, as the build quality is on par with something you'd see in the $150 range otherwise. $200+ in the past would've gotten you the highest end board with all the bells and whistles.

As for my chip, its a late-run C0 3843A that was packed only a few weeks ago. It wasn't stable at 3.9GHz at 1.32V with HT on in Prime95 with a 20x195 Bclk (Stable in OCCT 1 hour looped), so I lowered Bclk to 186 and enabled turbo for the 21x multi and so far so good. Prime95 has been running overnight and my temps have stayed at 64-70. If this turns out to be stable, I'll try lowering the voltage some and see if the higher Bclk was the cause for higher Vcore requirements.

 

[Tweakin]

Originally posted by: chizow

Originally posted by: Tweakin
Which version of the board do you have? I have v2 and it comes with dual Marvell Nics, 4 headers, Firewire and 8 USB ports and 1 eSata on the Header.

As for your results, looking good. I've gotten mine stable with HT at 3.6Ghz @ 1.35 with 50 back-2-back runs of ILP, and Prime 95 for 24 hours in all three (small, large and blend) with HT on with load temps of 56 across the board. At 3.8Ghz and beyond, the additional voltage is just not worth the extra 200~400 Mhz and lack of HT.

Your chip seems to be doing better then mine...

Mine's the vanilla P6T, which is about $50-70 cheaper than the P6T Deluxe versions. I got my P5Q-E for $160, which is basically identical to the Deluxe with half the power phases. Its probably more that the P5Q-E has much higher end features relative to price as its one of the best build boards I've owned. The P6T is the most I've paid for a board, but its pretty clear most of that cost is from licensing chipsets and such, as the build quality is on par with something you'd see in the $150 range otherwise. $200+ in the past would've gotten you the highest end board with all the bells and whistles.

As for my chip, its a late-run C0 3843A that was packed only a few weeks ago. It wasn't stable at 3.9GHz at 1.32V with HT on in Prime95 with a 20x195 Bclk (Stable in OCCT 1 hour looped), so I lowered Bclk to 186 and enabled turbo for the 21x multi and so far so good. Prime95 has been running overnight and my temps have stayed at 64-70. If this turns out to be stable, I'll try lowering the voltage some and see if the higher Bclk was the cause for higher Vcore requirements.

I also have a later run chip...C0/C1 3836B that was packed 03/06/09. I can run up at 4Ghz, no HT and lots of vcore...but I've found my sweat spot to be 3.4Ghz, HT on and vcore at 1.28. Give me load temps of 54c across the board. 3.6Ghz requires a jump to 1.36 with increases in vcore and PLL. 3.8 and above and I need to disable HT to get stable...I just hate feeding it that much juice for 24/7.

 

[chizow]

Originally posted by: Tweakin
I also have a later run chip...C0/C1 3836B that was packed 03/06/09. I can run up at 4Ghz, no HT and lots of vcore...but I've found my sweat spot to be 3.4Ghz, HT on and vcore at 1.28. Give me load temps of 54c across the board. 3.6Ghz requires a jump to 1.36 with increases in vcore and PLL. 3.8 and above and I need to disable HT to get stable...I just hate feeding it that much juice for 24/7.

Wow that's odd, you have a late pack date but that batch # is numerically much older/lower. For example, my batch # is 3843A and I have another here with a Jan pack date with 3842A. The D0 batch Tank Guys got is 3845B.

My chip does 3.6GHz with HT on no sweat at stock voltages (1.24V or so). I can't seem to get 4GHz stable without much higher voltages, although it may be a Bclk or RAM limitation. I got up to 1.37V (1.39V) and just stopped there. Not worth it to me at that point, as one of the reasons I went to i7 was to reduce actual TDP and required voltages. I've zero'd in at 3.9GHz and have gotten it stable at 1.30V (1.31V after Turbo) with 21x186 and its been 18 hour Prime stable, OCCT 8hr overnight stable, and Linpack stable. Very pleased so far, as the drop in ambient temps and application-specific performance gains is tangible.

 

[Tweakin]

Originally posted by: chizow

Originally posted by: Tweakin
I also have a later run chip...C0/C1 3836B that was packed 03/06/09. I can run up at 4Ghz, no HT and lots of vcore...but I've found my sweat spot to be 3.4Ghz, HT on and vcore at 1.28. Give me load temps of 54c across the board. 3.6Ghz requires a jump to 1.36 with increases in vcore and PLL. 3.8 and above and I need to disable HT to get stable...I just hate feeding it that much juice for 24/7.

Wow that's odd, you have a late pack date but that batch # is numerically much older/lower. For example, my batch # is 3843A and I have another here with a Jan pack date with 3842A. The D0 batch Tank Guys got is 3845B.

My chip does 3.6GHz with HT on no sweat at stock voltages (1.24V or so). I can't seem to get 4GHz stable without much higher voltages, although it may be a Bclk or RAM limitation. I got up to 1.37V (1.39V) and just stopped there. Not worth it to me at that point, as one of the reasons I went to i7 was to reduce actual TDP and required voltages. I've zero'd in at 3.9GHz and have gotten it stable at 1.30V (1.31V after Turbo) with 21x186 and its been 18 hour Prime stable, OCCT 8hr overnight stable, and Linpack stable. Very pleased so far, as the drop in ambient temps and application-specific performance gains is tangible.

That's a nice chip...

I'm now 60+ hours stable on Prime (running right now) and I can do 50 ILP's and never break 55 on any core. I've had 3.6 stable for 40+ hours and 50ILP's, and the thermals are fine...I just don't want to feed that extra voltage into the system, as you stated also...it's just not worth it to me.

 

[1ManArmY]

Originally posted by: Tweakin
I'm planning on using the stock cables or some of my round cables for ports 1-4. Port 5 will be a 90 locking to keep it out of the way of my sli.

can you confirm if the sata cables supplied with the MOBO are SATA 2? I am using the standard SATA cables supplied with board on my secondary 500 GB Segate HD and was wondering if data transfer rates were being cut in half. I would hope that these cables were SATA 2.

 

[harbin]

delete

 

[exar333]

Originally posted by: chizow

Originally posted by: Tweakin
I also have a later run chip...C0/C1 3836B that was packed 03/06/09. I can run up at 4Ghz, no HT and lots of vcore...but I've found my sweat spot to be 3.4Ghz, HT on and vcore at 1.28. Give me load temps of 54c across the board. 3.6Ghz requires a jump to 1.36 with increases in vcore and PLL. 3.8 and above and I need to disable HT to get stable...I just hate feeding it that much juice for 24/7.

Wow that's odd, you have a late pack date but that batch # is numerically much older/lower. For example, my batch # is 3843A and I have another here with a Jan pack date with 3842A. The D0 batch Tank Guys got is 3845B.

My chip does 3.6GHz with HT on no sweat at stock voltages (1.24V or so). I can't seem to get 4GHz stable without much higher voltages, although it may be a Bclk or RAM limitation. I got up to 1.37V (1.39V) and just stopped there. Not worth it to me at that point, as one of the reasons I went to i7 was to reduce actual TDP and required voltages. I've zero'd in at 3.9GHz and have gotten it stable at 1.30V (1.31V after Turbo) with 21x186 and its been 18 hour Prime stable, OCCT 8hr overnight stable, and Linpack stable. Very pleased so far, as the drop in ambient temps and application-specific performance gains is tangible.

My i7 is a launch chip, and I am at 3.8 using just under 1.3v. Some of the oldies are still good...the D0 + BIOS update looks really tempting though.

 

[harbin]

My p6td v2 has problem waking up from sleep, any solutions?

 

[Tweakin]

Originally posted by: 1ManArmY

Originally posted by: Tweakin
I'm planning on using the stock cables or some of my round cables for ports 1-4. Port 5 will be a 90 locking to keep it out of the way of my sli.

can you confirm if the sata cables supplied with the MOBO are SATA 2? I am using the standard SATA cables supplied with board on my secondary 500 GB Segate HD and was wondering if data transfer rates were being cut in half. I would hope that these cables were SATA 2.

Running a SATA or a SATA2 cable would not cut your performance in half. They are almost identical in construction, with the SATA2 having a slightly larger connection unit and a thicker ground shield...items that will not effect performance at this level.

But they are SATA 2 Cables....

 

[Tweakin]

Originally posted by: ExarKun333

Originally posted by: chizow

Originally posted by: Tweakin
I also have a later run chip...C0/C1 3836B that was packed 03/06/09. I can run up at 4Ghz, no HT and lots of vcore...but I've found my sweat spot to be 3.4Ghz, HT on and vcore at 1.28. Give me load temps of 54c across the board. 3.6Ghz requires a jump to 1.36 with increases in vcore and PLL. 3.8 and above and I need to disable HT to get stable...I just hate feeding it that much juice for 24/7.

Wow that's odd, you have a late pack date but that batch # is numerically much older/lower. For example, my batch # is 3843A and I have another here with a Jan pack date with 3842A. The D0 batch Tank Guys got is 3845B.

My chip does 3.6GHz with HT on no sweat at stock voltages (1.24V or so). I can't seem to get 4GHz stable without much higher voltages, although it may be a Bclk or RAM limitation. I got up to 1.37V (1.39V) and just stopped there. Not worth it to me at that point, as one of the reasons I went to i7 was to reduce actual TDP and required voltages. I've zero'd in at 3.9GHz and have gotten it stable at 1.30V (1.31V after Turbo) with 21x186 and its been 18 hour Prime stable, OCCT 8hr overnight stable, and Linpack stable. Very pleased so far, as the drop in ambient temps and application-specific performance gains is tangible.

My i7 is a launch chip, and I am at 3.8 using just under 1.3v. Some of the oldies are still good...the D0 + BIOS update looks really tempting though.

Yep...that's me! I always get the one-off weirdo specials.....

 

[Tweakin]

Originally posted by: harbin
My p6td v2 has problem waking up from sleep, any solutions?

What do you have set in the bios for S3?

 

[1ManArmY]

Tweakin thanks for your input on the SATA cables, on another note can you give me some guidance on OC ing settings? So far here are my current settings

172 X 20 = 3.4
QPI Link 3095.9
Voltage 1.33
RAM 516 mhz 2:6
6-6-6-18
1T command rate

It's stable but I just don't think my settings are efficient. My load temps approach 83 after Prime95 20 hr run with HT on.

 

[chizow]

Just wanted to give an update and confirm the P6T vanilla runs 12GB, 6 x 2GB Dimms, of Corsair DDR3 1600 Cas 8 without any problems at my current OC of 3.9GHz (21x186). Didn't have to adjust anything, just powered down, unplugged the power cord, inserted the additional 3 dimms and booted back up.

Ran a few hours of OCCT and Prime95, then dove into some gaming without a hitch the entire weekend. Very pleased with the performance and stability of this i7 build.

 

[Thor86]

Originally posted by: chizow
Just wanted to give an update and confirm the P6T vanilla runs 12GB, 6 x 2GB Dimms, of Corsair DDR3 1600 Cas 8 without any problems at my current OC of 3.9GHz (21x186). Didn't have to adjust anything, just powered down, unplugged the power cord, inserted the additional 3 dimms and booted back up.

Ran a few hours of OCCT and Prime95, then dove into some gaming without a hitch the entire weekend. Very pleased with the performance and stability of this i7 build.

Nice, post some bios/voltage settings.

 

[chizow]

I don't have all the settings handy, but X58 OC'ing is literally the easiest OC I've ever dealt with to date. Most of the settings are changed once you enable the RAM's XMP profile. After that I think the only manual changes I made were to Enable Load Line Calibration, ultimately tweaked Vcore to 1.31V (this overvolts to 1.32-1.33V with Turbo 21x multi) and settled on a 186 Bclk. Everything else is more or less AUTO besides the changes the XMP profile sets to QPI/memory voltage and VTT.

 

[harbin]

Why asus hasn't update BIOS on V2? I want the sleep mode fixed!

 

[Byte]

Did they remove the 775 heatsink support from the v2 of the Deluxe?