Originally posted by: loudog40
In response to all the b!tching about gameplay of Unreal2.... the thoughts of Chris Hargrove, a member of the U2 dev team, in response to two harsh reviews by two of the larger gaming sites:
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Okay, this is just ridiculous.
It seems that both Gamespy and IGN had some kind of strange notion that this game was going to be something other than an FPS, as both reviews seemed to dock the game points for not "raising the bar" in every single gameplay area (even though they basically admit we did so in the graphics department, and some of the gameplay features too), or something to that effect.
What I'm reading from these reviews seems to fall along the lines of "the graphics are great, the story is nice, voice acting is good and all that, and it's a lot of fun at the beginning and the end but kinda slow in the middle, and underneath it all it's really just more of the same (and we're gonna deduct points for it)", in other words, yes, it is a shooter, and you spend a lot of time simply going around and shooting things... Well, guess what guys, we know.
I have no problem with people reviewing the game and expressing their opinion, positive or negative... but c'mon guys, if you don't like the simple act of running around and shooting things, why would you want to play the game in the first place? "Little replay value" implies that if the plot isn't brand spankin' new to you, the game wouldn't be that fun to play again. But in the same reviews, we're told how satisfying the weapons are, which means the actual act of shooting isn't a problem. Hence I wonder, have these reviewers lost sight of what this genre actually is? The GameSpy reviewer even said he hates boss battles.... uhh, hello?
I mean, it's a sad day when we get compared to such incredible titles as Halo, Half-Life, etc... only at the end to have reviewers recommend that people wait until the game is in the bargain bin. Am I the only person that sees something incredibly wrong with this picture? I've played Halo in multiplayer for a couple hours at most, but I've beaten the single-player game at least 3 or 4 times all the way through, even when the plot was no longer new, simply because the raw act of shooting down your enemies (and getting some kind of story progression to boot) is fun. You can take this entire sentence and replace "Halo" with "Half-Life" and it's the same result. There is replay value in single-player shooters, if you actually like the core gameplay mechanic, i.e. giving the player weapons, and baddies to use them on (There is a reason that the game provides a DVD-style missions menu, so you can pick your favorite missions to play whenever you like).
Let me just say this right now: Unreal II is a First Person Shooter. The view is first-person, and you Shoot Things. There is a lot of other stuff to the game too, and I think it turned out to be a pretty darn polished product... but none of that will matter if you don't like shooting.
I'm finding it amazing that I'm even having to explain stuff like this. It's as if we did something wrong in the game by understanding what this genre actually is...
- Chris
(Disclaimer: The above is a PERSONAL opinion/rebuttal, and has no affiliation with the official stances of Legend, Epic, Infogrames, etc.)
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I happen to agree with him.
How do we compare U2 to a game most likely over a year maybe 2, away?the graphics are so so. They are clean, I'll say that. But they actually look dated! Whoever was using the Photoshop/gfx program could use some brushing up on his skills. Unreal2's gfx do not compare to the graphics of Doom3 (I have played the leaked alpha demo). So people should not compare these two games. Doom3 obviously blows unreal2 away.
Originally posted by: Karsten
P4 2.4; Nvidia 6400 here.
If you say the Graphics are bad or on par with Tribes2 you are on Crack! It's as simple as that... or you are blind... that could explain it too!
There is not a game I have EVER played that has nicer Graphics then this game! ENOUGH SAID!!!
Originally posted by: yomamma
If you stole something why would you brag about it? Do you also lift from Department stores?
When you do steal something from Sears do you find a "Hot Refrigerator Deals" Board and brag about it?
I don't get this mentality of stealing from the very companies that you want to make good entertainment for you.
AND THEN COMPLAINING ABOUT THE PRODUCT THAT YOU STOLE!
Kids these days...
Bill :disgust:
No amount of words can sum up the sheer lack of sense this statement contains.Originally posted by: gimpyd00
I would feel cheated being handed this.
-gimp
I downloaded the final leaked version last week and finished it today.
Originally posted by: MrC4
I downloaded the final leaked version last week and finished it today.
Why do so few of us have a problem with this?
Originally posted by: elkinm
Just wondering were some of you got the lwaked builds. How many CDs is it, multiple like UT2K3 or maybe just one. I would realy like to try it out before buying it as generaly software cannot be returned after openning. I don't need the full game just some sence of the gameplay and I don't even need the latest and greatest as I don't have the juce to run with all eye candy on. If anybody knows of a way I get something of the sorts of a leaked demo or build that I can try out, please help me.
Thanks
elkinm
Originally posted by: tbates757
Some of these warez kiddies think they are "l33t" and need to brag about it on Anandtech. It's pretty sad, really.
Originally posted by: SykoFreak
Originally posted by: yomamma
If you stole something why would you brag about it? Do you also lift from Department stores?
When you do steal something from Sears do you find a "Hot Refrigerator Deals" Board and brag about it?
I don't get this mentality of stealing from the very companies that you want to make good entertainment for you.
AND THEN COMPLAINING ABOUT THE PRODUCT THAT YOU STOLE!
Kids these days...
Bill :disgust:
I agree. For example:
No amount of words can sum up the sheer lack of sense this statement contains.Originally posted by: gimpyd00
I would feel cheated being handed this.
-gimp
Originally posted by: gimpyd00
Originally posted by: SykoFreak
Originally posted by: yomamma
If you stole something why would you brag about it? Do you also lift from Department stores?
When you do steal something from Sears do you find a "Hot Refrigerator Deals" Board and brag about it?
I don't get this mentality of stealing from the very companies that you want to make good entertainment for you.
AND THEN COMPLAINING ABOUT THE PRODUCT THAT YOU STOLE!
Kids these days...
Bill :disgust:
I agree. For example:
No amount of words can sum up the sheer lack of sense this statement contains.Originally posted by: gimpyd00
I would feel cheated being handed this.
-gimp
I'm a gamer. If I don't buy games, who will? In the case of games like this, if it's good, I'll buy it. I bought two copies of half-life and have a large library of games. I will buy games that I pirate if I like them. What I meant by that statement is, if I plunked down $50 and was handed a copy of this game, I would feel completely ripped off. The game is not worth it. I didn't finish it, I uninstalled it in 20 minutes and have no intent to continue with it.
Originally posted by: cyberizer9
Originally posted by: gimpyd00
Originally posted by: SykoFreak
Originally posted by: yomamma
If you stole something why would you brag about it? Do you also lift from Department stores?
When you do steal something from Sears do you find a "Hot Refrigerator Deals" Board and brag about it?
I don't get this mentality of stealing from the very companies that you want to make good entertainment for you.
AND THEN COMPLAINING ABOUT THE PRODUCT THAT YOU STOLE!
Kids these days...
Bill :disgust:
I agree. For example:
No amount of words can sum up the sheer lack of sense this statement contains.Originally posted by: gimpyd00
I would feel cheated being handed this.
-gimp
I'm a gamer. If I don't buy games, who will? In the case of games like this, if it's good, I'll buy it. I bought two copies of half-life and have a large library of games. I will buy games that I pirate if I like them. What I meant by that statement is, if I plunked down $50 and was handed a copy of this game, I would feel completely ripped off. The game is not worth it. I didn't finish it, I uninstalled it in 20 minutes and have no intent to continue with it.
I guess what you are implying is you watch the movie before paying for it? Or you go to the theatre watch the first half an hour for free and then if you like it, you pay for it? Software is like most of the entertainment you buy. Sometimes you get engtertained sometimes you don't, you ought to pay for it, nonetheless.
Originally posted by: knightmare68
Before you write your book, you do know they can be read for free from the local library.