UNREAL II $36.99 on 2/5/03

[DEFIANT1]

Originally posted by: yomamma

Originally posted by: knightmare68
Before you write your book, you do know they can be read for free from the local library.

You do know that the library actually buys the books before they let you read them?

Bill

You do know that a huge majority of those books are donated by publishing firms, as a tax write-off, right?

 

[Xionide]

Originally posted by: yomamma

Originally posted by: knightmare68
Before you write your book, you do know they can be read for free from the local library.

You do know that the library actually buys the books before they let you read them?

Bill

you do know that a library pays the amount for one book and hundreds of people read it, if they each bought it then you would have more money, so library's skrew writers over

 

[yomamma]

Originally posted by: UberVoodooFX9700

Originally posted by: yomamma

Originally posted by: knightmare68
Before you write your book, you do know they can be read for free from the local library.

You do know that the library actually buys the books before they let you read them?

Bill

you do know that a library pays the amount for one book and hundreds of people read it, if they each bought it then you would have more money, so library's skrew writers over

What the hell are you morons talking about? The subject was theft of video games.

Actually before that the subject was Unreal II. Well I'm off today so I think I'll hit BB when they open at 10 and score a copy of Unreal.

Cheers,

Bill

 

[Aiden]

well for myself it basically comes down to a few things.

if the companies want me to buy there product,then they need to let me try that product prior to purchasing it,or show some support for that product. in many cases that does not happen. unreal 2 is a perfect example of this,they publish a product,with no demo,and rely on you to make a choice from lack of information based on the fact that they had a good game a few years ago to sway you into spending 50$. There are very few games,that ill ever purchase without a demo try out,or warez try out if a demo cant be found.

it would be different if stores had a resonable idea of software returns. in 99% of the case though,the only thing you can return software for,is the same item you bought,or if your lucky a store credit.

there are to many games that come out on a yearly basis, for me to invest 1500$ a year into them to see if they might all be good. so i get warez to try games out,to see if the investment is worth it for me personally. If the game is good enough,ill buy it,like i did with many this year. if the game is poor quality,or a poor game,then i avoid it,like i will with unreal 2. in the end,its a personal choice,i know what i am doing is not legal,but i still do it anyway,because of the reasons i gave you.

 

[Johnbear007]

Originally posted by: loudog40
In response to all the b!tching about gameplay of Unreal2.... the thoughts of Chris Hargrove, a member of the U2 dev team, in response to two harsh reviews by two of the larger gaming sites:

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Okay, this is just ridiculous.

It seems that both Gamespy and IGN had some kind of strange notion that this game was going to be something other than an FPS, as both reviews seemed to dock the game points for not "raising the bar" in every single gameplay area (even though they basically admit we did so in the graphics department, and some of the gameplay features too), or something to that effect.

What I'm reading from these reviews seems to fall along the lines of "the graphics are great, the story is nice, voice acting is good and all that, and it's a lot of fun at the beginning and the end but kinda slow in the middle, and underneath it all it's really just more of the same (and we're gonna deduct points for it)", in other words, yes, it is a shooter, and you spend a lot of time simply going around and shooting things... Well, guess what guys, we know.

I have no problem with people reviewing the game and expressing their opinion, positive or negative... but c'mon guys, if you don't like the simple act of running around and shooting things, why would you want to play the game in the first place? "Little replay value" implies that if the plot isn't brand spankin' new to you, the game wouldn't be that fun to play again. But in the same reviews, we're told how satisfying the weapons are, which means the actual act of shooting isn't a problem. Hence I wonder, have these reviewers lost sight of what this genre actually is? The GameSpy reviewer even said he hates boss battles.... uhh, hello?

I mean, it's a sad day when we get compared to such incredible titles as Halo, Half-Life, etc... only at the end to have reviewers recommend that people wait until the game is in the bargain bin. Am I the only person that sees something incredibly wrong with this picture? I've played Halo in multiplayer for a couple hours at most, but I've beaten the single-player game at least 3 or 4 times all the way through, even when the plot was no longer new, simply because the raw act of shooting down your enemies (and getting some kind of story progression to boot) is fun. You can take this entire sentence and replace "Halo" with "Half-Life" and it's the same result. There is replay value in single-player shooters, if you actually like the core gameplay mechanic, i.e. giving the player weapons, and baddies to use them on (There is a reason that the game provides a DVD-style missions menu, so you can pick your favorite missions to play whenever you like).

Let me just say this right now: Unreal II is a First Person Shooter. The view is first-person, and you Shoot Things. There is a lot of other stuff to the game too, and I think it turned out to be a pretty darn polished product... but none of that will matter if you don't like shooting.

I'm finding it amazing that I'm even having to explain stuff like this. It's as if we did something wrong in the game by understanding what this genre actually is...

- Chris

(Disclaimer: The above is a PERSONAL opinion/rebuttal, and has no affiliation with the official stances of Legend, Epic, Infogrames, etc.)
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I happen to agree with him.

I havent played the game yet, but I STILL agree with him. It's like going out to a pizza parlor and b!tching because you don't like pizza, and they don't have anything else.. well.. if you dont like pizza don't eat pizza


duh

 

[Johnbear007]

Originally posted by: MrC4

I downloaded the final leaked version last week and finished it today.

Why do so few of us have a problem with this?

Because alot of the people are script kiddies who think they are l33t because they know how to download an iso from the newsgroups.

 

[Jmman]

Well, imho, I have to laugh about the people who talk about using warez simply to try out a game. They are the same people who have never had a legit OS in 15 years also. I guess they are still trying out MS products to see if they like them.....

Anyway, BB and CC will start to have specials on this game within a few weeks, so if you can wait a little bit you can get it for less than $50. I can't remember the last time I paid a full $50 for a game. You should be able to get it for about $35 soon, or the price of two large pizzas.....

 

[Johnbear007]

Originally posted by: Aiden
well for myself it basically comes down to a few things.

if the companies want me to buy there product,then they need to let me try that product prior to purchasing it,or show some support for that product. in many cases that does not happen. unreal 2 is a perfect example of this,they publish a product,with no demo,and rely on you to make a choice from lack of information based on the fact that they had a good game a few years ago to sway you into spending 50$. There are very few games,that ill ever purchase without a demo try out,or warez try out if a demo cant be found.

it would be different if stores had a resonable idea of software returns. in 99% of the case though,the only thing you can return software for,is the same item you bought,or if your lucky a store credit.

there are to many games that come out on a yearly basis, for me to invest 1500$ a year into them to see if they might all be good. so i get warez to try games out,to see if the investment is worth it for me personally. If the game is good enough,ill buy it,like i did with many this year. if the game is poor quality,or a poor game,then i avoid it,like i will with unreal 2. in the end,its a personal choice,i know what i am doing is not legal,but i still do it anyway,because of the reasons i gave you.

The logic that Warez users employ is simply ridiculous. Just because you think you are entitled to a demo (I do to) doesnt give you the right to steal it... it gives you the right to not buy the product.

Hey, if there is a girl you like, but you don't know if you want to go out with her unless the sex is good but she says no, do you rape her to try it first?

It's the same thing, a-hole.

 

[kayaksurfer]

Did anyone get this at Fry's yet? I was there at noon on 2/5 in Fountain Valley but they hadn't received any stock.

Any other b&m stores (for pricematching)?
Thanks

 

[Nomans]

Kayaksurfer, NOP. I was at Fry's FV after work yesterday Wed 2/5, around 7.30 PM, walked around, saw no Unreal II , asked the sales rep. He said the game will be available tomorrow, 2/6. No time frame specified.

 

[Allen7]

None in City of Industry, CA store neither

 

[kayaksurfer]

Fry's FV has it now. Just got back with my copy. (2/6 @ 2pm)

 

[odoe]

Originally posted by: Allen7
None in City of Industry, CA store neither

I was just going to go there this afternoon. Well, I'll try later maybe or just wait until tomorrow. They should get a nice hefty shipment, should I wouldn't worry about them running out.

 

[elkinm]

I got and beet the single player of UT2K3 with the original build. It had a very strange feel to it and I was very dissapointed with the playability and the skill and capability of the AI caracters. I finished the game quite easily and was dissapointed as UT was far more dificult. After the first patch I noticed a big improvement in bot inteigence and game playability and feel. Righ now I whent to the 2166 patch and am still getting used to it before going to the latest 8x version. Right now the game seems on par with the original UT as far as gameplay and feel but with far more eye candy. My favorite level is Liandri which I downloaded for UT2K3 and compare to UT. The UT2K3 seems to be more fast paced and the bots provide a much more interesting chellenge.
I jumped into UT with the latest patch already and Unreal after that with the latest patch, so I was wondering if this kind of gameplay improvement is normal for the Unreal series, and if it was seen with Unreal and UT. Unreal was is amazing game with still some of the best graghics I have seen and I can only hope UT2K3 is a worthy successor. So would it make sence to wait some time until some patches are available before playing it or would it make little difference.

Thanks
elkinm

 

[loudog40]

Originally posted by: elkinm
I got and beet the single player of UT2K3 with the original build. It had a very strange feel to it and I was very dissapointed with the playability and the skill and capability of the AI caracters. I finished the game quite easily and was dissapointed as UT was far more dificult. After the first patch I noticed a big improvement in bot inteigence and game playability and feel. Righ now I whent to the 2166 patch and am still getting used to it before going to the latest 8x version. Right now the game seems on par with the original UT as far as gameplay and feel but with far more eye candy. My favorite level is Liandri which I downloaded for UT2K3 and compare to UT. The UT2K3 seems to be more fast paced and the bots provide a much more interesting chellenge.
I jumped into UT with the latest patch already and Unreal after that with the latest patch, so I was wondering if this kind of gameplay improvement is normal for the Unreal series, and if it was seen with Unreal and UT. Unreal was is amazing game with still some of the best graghics I have seen and I can only hope UT2K3 is a worthy successor. So would it make sence to wait some time until some patches are available before playing it or would it make little difference.

Thanks
elkinm

First off, why are you basing UT2K3 off of purely botmatches? While the AI is damn skippy in both UT and UT2003, this is not where these games really shine. Online play has always been the true focus for these two games, but unfortunately, UT2K3 has not been fullfilling the multiplayer numbers that were originally prophesized. However, I think that as hardware prices drop and the ever raising bar of computing performance increases, we will see a lot more people competing online with UT2K3.
Another thing that really separates UT2K3 is its modding potential. With all the quality mutators, custom maps, and mods(in the works) becoming available, this game is truly the king in regards to replay value.

Because of this, I dont see Legend spending time tweaking gameplay for Unreal2 like DE and Epic did for UT2K3. Rather, I predict that the only patches released for Unreal2 will be purely bug fixes. Anyway, both UT2K3 and Unreal2 have gotten my $$$ and I dont regret it for one second. Certain things just aren't worth warezing... besides, it feels good to support quality software every once in a blue moon.

 

[corinthos]

Q] too bad the gameplay sucks. It does not live up to the Unreal name at all

The Graphics are good however. A bit sluggish at times on my amd 2600, gf 4 4400 setup [/quote]


wtf? that's a pretty powerful system and it's a bit sluggish playing this game? I can't imagine
how it'd do on my xp1700+ and g400max...

 

[Xionide]

some one PM me this mysterious newsgroup link. PLEASE PRETTY PLEASE

 

[Walruslord]

Originally posted by: UberVoodooFX9700
some one PM me this mysterious newsgroup link. PLEASE PRETTY PLEASE

You are a total moron if you can't find a way to get this software online yourself.

That being said, you are also a total moron anyway because you are trying to get it online.

Lastly, you are a complete moron for asking how to do it on anandtech, enjoy the punishment.

 

[CheapTOFU]

I have been reading what you guys posted here....

If you said "you must pay if you want to play..."
I agree 100%..

But also think about this...
You are here posting because you want hot deals...
If you are someone who says that, why do you use coupons or look for hot deals?
Some companies actually lose money because of "hot deals" ppl..

Also if I dropped $100 bill in front of you and left.. wouldn't you take the money and put it in your pocket?

 

[Xionide]

Originally posted by: Walruslord

Originally posted by: UberVoodooFX9700You are a total moron if you can't find a way to get this software online yourself.
WHY AM I A MORON. SO I DONT KNOW WHERE TO GET IT. SOME ONE PROBABLY TOLD YOU, OR YOU WOULDNT KNOW.

That being said, you are also a total moron anyway because you are trying to get it online.
What is a newsgroup anyway, seriously i dont know? Big whoop.

Lastly, you are a complete moron for asking how to do it on anandtech, enjoy the punishment.

I expected that one but i thought someone kind enough might help me.

dont be such an ass, ass

 

[RDMustang1]

Originally posted by: gothaggis
The Graphics are good however. A bit sluggish at times on my amd 2600, gf 4 4400 setup

It ran JUST fine on my xp2100 and gf2 mx200.. I imagine that your system is wildly misconfigured if it was sluggish on a 2600 and gf4..

The game was too short but besides that it was very enjoyable. Some of the weapons were nice since I've never seen stuff like them (like the orb).. I'm not a hardcore gamer so maybe they are all old ideas but I enjoyed them. Worth the $37 to me.

Oh, and those saying that the graphics aren't close to doom3 I agree BUT please realize that doom3 has been in the works for years and is still so far from being released it is in the category of vaporware. Also realize that doom3 runs unplayably slow unless you have the absolute top of the line system. The graphics are about as advanced as any released game and I am satisfied.

 

[Jugernot]

Originally posted by: argnarf
It is not a beta. 7 hours to beat, on normal. Nothing impressive at all, just shoot the monsters and go to the end of the level. Graphics are about par with Tribes 2.

Sorry dude, anyone who is as jaded as you are obviously can't be trusted for a real opinion.