CS is loved way too much by the masses, and becomes inherently ghey (cs is cool, some cool peeps, but also by far some of the worst llamas ever to go online find thier way to cs in droves like lemmings). UT follows closely, with much newbie affection.
Q3A is just a base game. Ever heard of mods? That's where Q3A really becomes by far the most intense, fastest, skilled, mature, interactive, team-oriented, fun, non-gay-non-newbie-lovin-non-canthandletheskill, or whatever-the-hell-you-want-it-to-be-game-there-is. LMAO at the people who say, you cant type chat in Quake (WTF), or its a mindless fps (you obviously dont know about where to look for a good mod/game/community).
People who say "Q3A is just faster and mindless, and UT has so much more" are either blind to the community of mods, or don't get it at all. Q3A has it all, go find it, UT has a lot, Q3A just has it all and better.
As someone in these forums said before.
UT is for newbies
Quake is for hardcore gamers
you'll graduate one day
nuff said