Upcoming GTX 750 Ti tested

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SiliconWars

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That link is a single slot (but not low profile) 7850. I've seen rumors of a low profile 7850 but never actually seen one for sale in the US.

Sorry my bad. The same company did do one (low profile) as well as the single-slot, and I saw a couple sell on ebay UK a few months ago so they definitely exist somewhere (also on Amazon UK). By this stage I wouldn't bother though, clearly the 750 Ti is going to be a much more sensible option.
 

parvadomus

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The thing ended up being very efficient. Lets see how the AMD competitor will do now. I expect it being on par, as they promised 20-30 Gflops GPUs for their next arch.
 

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Honestly it's a good card with amazing performance for the power draw, but AMD will likely match or exceed this at 28nm if they try to. It might take a few months, or maybe they are just waiting on 20nm (seems likely), but the 60%+ perf/W claims based on techpowerup's flawed benchmarks are completely bogus.

seriously?


i mean......
for real?

this is really really funny.

I guess if AMD doesnt "exceed this" you can always claim they didnt even try. Maybe they just didnt feel like it or something.

I am no expert but i am pretty sure it takes longer than a couple months to come up with a completely new architecture, much less bring it to market. There is no other way they could beat the gm107 efficiency. It would take a completely new amazing architecture that would be an engineering marvel. So yeah, i bet AMD could do this if they wanted. But it would take a lot longer than a couple months. The gm107 is in a league of its own.

I am not saying AMD cannot make a better chip or they just arent capable, whether they can or not is another matter all by itself. But what i am saying is your statement is really really impossible. AMD cannot just pop out a more efficient design than maxwell in a couple months.......even if they wanted to. This is totally and completely unrealistic. Fallacy. I really dont even know why you would be saying something like this?
 

sontin

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They needed 8 months to release a card which can go against Titan with a worse perf/watt ratio.

Really, there is nothing coming from them until 20nm.
 

parvadomus

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seriously?


i mean......
for real?

this is really really funny.

I guess if AMD doesnt "exceed this" you can always claim they didnt even try. Maybe they just didnt feel like it or something.

I am no expert but i am pretty sure it takes longer than a couple months to come up with a completely new architecture, much less bring it to market. There is no other way they could beat the gm107 efficiency. It would take a completely new amazing architecture that would be an engineering marvel. So yeah, i bet AMD could do this if they wanted. But it would take a lot longer than a couple months. The gm107 is in a league of its own.

I am not saying AMD cannot make a better chip or they just arent capable, whether they can or not is another matter all by itself. But what i am saying is your statement is really really impossible. AMD cannot just pop out a more efficient design than maxwell in a couple months.......even if they wanted to. This is totally and completely unrealistic. Fallacy. I really dont even know why you would be saying something like this?

We certainly dont know if this is an engineering marvel. We will have to wait for its competitor. You are comparing it to 2.5 year old architectures.
 

Zanovar

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I suppose if we give you enough rope, you'll get Bonaire down to 20mm2 if you hack off all of the transistors that aren't used 100% of the time. maybe you can do the same for GM107?

nvm
 
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All of this point to good signs for 20nm next gen HIGH END gpus...

But it is interesting, never seen so many people so worked up over LOW END gpus on this forum before.
 

sontin

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AMD latest chip is Hawaii and it only has 50% of the perf/watt of the GTX750TI.

I dont see why we should wait for the competition when it's clear that the competition is months away from bringing something new to the market.
 

parvadomus

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AMD latest chip is Hawaii and it only has 50% of the perf/watt of the GTX750TI.

I dont see why we should wait for the competition when it's clear that the competition is months away from bringing something new to the market.

Hawaii is still the same GCN as the first 28nm GPU. It only added turbo boost.
And I dont think they need to bring new parts now when they are killing the 750ti with the 265. Just like nv did with 650ti boost vs 7790.
 

f1sherman

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All of this point to good signs for 20nm next gen HIGH END gpus...

But it is interesting, never seen so many people so worked up over LOW END gpus on this forum before.

Its not about LOW END, and you know it.

It's about future Maxwell products, 20nm, its about GM107 giving us a glimpse of this future while looking pretty damn good.
 

Will Robinson

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At that price 750Ti is best suited to HPC or perhaps crypto mining,no serious gamer is going to value perf/watt over performance/$.
 

Will Robinson

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They needed 8 months to release a card which can go against Titan with a worse perf/watt ratio.

Really, there is nothing coming from them until 20nm.

Remember when 7970GHZ Edition suddenly arrived and spoiled the party for GTX680?
I'm surprised you think AMD won't have R9 Series II chips designed and ready to compete against Maxwell based cards this year.
 

SPBHM

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Qwertilot

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Well perf/watt does matter because it gets you more power at some quite significant total power draw break points. Notebooks of course, but also small boxes, 160w power supplies etc.

Myself I'm very content with the idea that, by the time 4k monitors turn sane, it should be very possible to sensibly drive one with a +-100W graphics card. No interest at all in anything larger.
 

sontin

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Remember when 7970GHZ Edition suddenly arrived and spoiled the party for GTX680?
I'm surprised you think AMD won't have R9 Series II chips designed and ready to compete against Maxwell based cards this year.

You mean ready like Hawaii?
BTW: The 7970GHz was buyable 5 months after the GTX680. :|
 
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Well, 20nm in Q4 should be interesting, dunno bout rest of you guys but I have had enough of 28nm already.

My radeons have already made me so much $$ from mining, I can afford many generations of future GPUs. Here's hoping BIG Maxwell is a hashing monster with great efficiency too!
 
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Genx87

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We certainly dont know if this is an engineering marvel. We will have to wait for its competitor. You are comparing it to 2.5 year old architectures.

I think getting near the performance of the previous arch at nearly half the power cost on the same process is a pretty big marvel. When this gets a shrink it could be close to 4 times the performance\watt of Kepler.
 
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