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sze5003

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i assume you have factory reset it and all that?
Yup I have, hasn't really helped. I did contact Google a few weeks ago and they mentioned factory reset. Seems this also happened to my Nexus 6 a year in or so. I hope they will let me rma it.
 

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The more and more I use my Nexus 6P, the closer I get to downsizing. These things are just too big for me anymore. I would consider the new Pixel if it was cheaper. I might grab it once it drops in price a little.



I'm about to chat Google today and see if they will replace my 6p. If I get a pixel I would go for a 128gb option but I honestly don't want to pay $938.

I'd like to keep my 6p until the pixel 2 but at this rate I don't think it will do so well battery wise.

Yikes

I just updated my 6p after holding out to let the 7.0 bugs shake out. Hope I don't see the same thing.
 

sze5003

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The more and more I use my Nexus 6P, the closer I get to downsizing. These things are just too big for me anymore. I would consider the new Pixel if it was cheaper. I might grab it once it drops in price a little.





Yikes

I just updated my 6p after holding out to let the 7.0 bugs shake out. Hope I don't see the same thing.
I notice a lot of draining where I didn't have before especially when streaming Spotify through blutooth in my car. On marshmallow I would stream for like 30-40 min and by the time I would get to work I'd have 91% or so left.

Now if I stream that long by the time I get to work I'm in the low 80's high 70's battery percentage.

My friends pixel is better optimized for battery from hardware it seems. He didn't charge at all over night and only lost 1%.
 

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The more and more I use my Nexus 6P, the closer I get to downsizing. These things are just too big for me anymore. I would consider the new Pixel if it was cheaper. I might grab it once it drops in price a little.


Yikes

I just updated my 6p after holding out to let the 7.0 bugs shake out. Hope I don't see the same thing.

mine was fine besides that rando charging issue:/

this is typical usage for me on the Pixel
 

sze5003

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mine was fine besides that rando charging issue:/

this is typical usage for me on the Pixel
On my 6p Android os is always on the top and I don't think that should be the case. Android system yes since it's usually the system apps and such.
 

Kazukian

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Heh, ordered one, black regular Pixel, 128GB. TMobile has a promo for $325 off given in monthly credits for 24 months. Am pretty sure I'll still get the monthly credits if I sell it later.

Can't get it all registered for the promo yet, but should have it all done tomorrow morning.
 

sze5003

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Heh, ordered one, black regular Pixel, 128GB. TMobile has a promo for $325 off given in monthly credits for 24 months. Am pretty sure I'll still get the monthly credits if I sell it later.

Can't get it all registered for the promo yet, but should have it all done tomorrow morning.
Do you have to be on a contract for that? I currently am using metro, but I suppose since Google offers financing it's not much different. The price tag is just too much to justify the components minus waterproofing. Not that waterproofing is a big deal to me but if you are going to compete with premium on everything including price, then it should factor in.

It only cost $285 to make the pixel according to an article I read. Also, it seems they built it in nine months too. There were no speculations or rumors about iPhone 7 being waterproof so I'm sure when Google found out they had already built the pixel and they were probably like oh crap!!
 

Kazukian

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Do you have to be on a contract for that? I currently am using metro, but I suppose since Google offers financing it's not much different. The price tag is just too much to justify the components minus waterproofing. Not that waterproofing is a big deal to me but if you are going to compete with premium on everything including price, then it should factor in.

It only cost $285 to make the pixel according to an article I read. Also, it seems they built it in nine months too. There were no speculations or rumors about iPhone 7 being waterproof so I'm sure when Google found out they had already built the pixel and they were probably like oh crap!!

Yes, on contract with their TMobile One plan only.

I'll use it for a while and sell it on swappa.
 
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It only cost $285 to make the pixel according to an article I read. Also, it seems they built it in nine months too. There were no speculations or rumors about iPhone 7 being waterproof so I'm sure when Google found out they had already built the pixel and they were probably like oh crap!!

I mean that bill of materials price is similar to other premium phones of the same pricing, so not sure if that's the greatest justification for it being overpriced.
 

sze5003

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I mean that bill of materials price is similar to other premium phones of the same pricing, so not sure if that's the greatest justification for it being overpriced.
It is, but I feel they kind of rushed with the device. With Google it used to go, be together not the same. So now it kind of feels like they are going the opposite direction. If they had a chip as fast as the iPhone processor that would be very nice. Soon I think they are looking to make their own chip.
 

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It is, but I feel they kind of rushed with the device. With Google it used to go, be together not the same. So now it kind of feels like they are going the opposite direction. If they had a chip as fast as the iPhone processor that would be very nice. Soon I think they are looking to make their own chip.

I see it as Google discovering what Microsoft did with the Surface (once it found out where the Surface line's true audience was): that, left to its own, an OS ecosystem will devolve. You get the race to the bottom in quality and price as well as high-end vendors who are more interested in "differentiation" (read: difference purely for its own sake) than making the best possible product. You don't need to go full-on Apple and refuse to license your OS, but it helps to make your own hardware as a sort of guiding light for everyone else.

And frankly, the Android market is kind of a shambles. Samsung just took a big hit (even beyond the Note 7 fiasco), Chinese OEMs are successful but mostly in their home country, and companies like HTC, LG and Sony are left fighting for table scraps. HTC may revel in being the hidden brand behind the Pixel simply because it wasn't going to sell many phones otherwise.
 

sze5003

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I see it as Google discovering what Microsoft did with the Surface (once it found out where the Surface line's true audience was): that, left to its own, an OS ecosystem will devolve. You get the race to the bottom in quality and price as well as high-end vendors who are more interested in "differentiation" (read: difference purely for its own sake) than making the best possible product. You don't need to go full-on Apple and refuse to license your OS, but it helps to make your own hardware as a sort of guiding light for everyone else.

And frankly, the Android market is kind of a shambles. Samsung just took a big hit (even beyond the Note 7 fiasco), Chinese OEMs are successful but mostly in their home country, and companies like HTC, LG and Sony are left fighting for table scraps. HTC may revel in being the hidden brand behind the Pixel simply because it wasn't going to sell many phones otherwise.
Even after HTC designed the pixel I think they still aren't doing so well. Their profits were still negative and most of that probably has to do with how they didn't do so well with the HTC 10.

I'm going to go out on a limb here and say Google may buy HTC. It also seems they will release a nexus 7 tablet which will also be made by HTC, sometime in December.

Still early to tell, but I get what Google is going after now being a software and data company. Opening up a store in New York, etc. They have to build a brand like Apple did but I really don't think it will be as strong as apple. Most of the people besides us tech enthusiasts here, rarely ever cared about nexus phones. Most people I know didn't even know it was a phone offered from Google.

For Google to reach popularity among the masses like apple, they really have to be more creative in their design. If they ever manufacture their own processing chip and optimize it like apple does, we may be on to something.
 

Commodus

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Even after HTC designed the pixel I think they still aren't doing so well. Their profits were still negative and most of that probably has to do with how they didn't do so well with the HTC 10.

I'm going to go out on a limb here and say Google may buy HTC. It also seems they will release a nexus 7 tablet which will also be made by HTC, sometime in December.

Still early to tell, but I get what Google is going after now being a software and data company. Opening up a store in New York, etc. They have to build a brand like Apple did but I really don't think it will be as strong as apple. Most of the people besides us tech enthusiasts here, rarely ever cared about nexus phones. Most people I know didn't even know it was a phone offered from Google.

For Google to reach popularity among the masses like apple, they really have to be more creative in their design. If they ever manufacture their own processing chip and optimize it like apple does, we may be on to something.

I could see it. HTC becomes Google's hardware manufacturing wing. No guarantees, but I wouldn't rule it out.

And I don't think Google is honestly worried about being as big a brand as Apple. It's more about associating the name with something besides search and sustaining enough of a business to secure a good footprint. Right now, it seems like Google is off to a decent start: Pixel advertising is seemingly inescapable. I'd like to see what happens next year, once Google has learned a few lessons from its initial foray into self-designed gear.
 

sze5003

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Yup I'm very interested to see what comes out next year. I'm going to try to hold on to my 6p until then.

I could simply take the financing offer from Google next time a 128gb black pixel xl comes in stock but I don't feel like it's completely worth it for that price. If I could get it for $700 or so I would be much more inclined to get one.

Besides the dwindling battery life on my 6p it's smooth sailing. They won't even offer any sale or discount because most people are going to go through Verizon or T-Mobile to get one so they end up financing it either way.

If the pixel had a better looking design I think I would have ordered one but right now it's more like yea it would be nice to have it for the little hardware improvements plus the latest Android os, but nothing really is urging me to commit to buying one at that price range.
 

Roland00Address

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T-Mobile is offering a discount of up to $325 dollars

If you buy a pixel from Google and then use that pixel on T-Mobile networks. See the link for more details.

http://www.t-mobile.com/offer/google-pixel-phone-offer.html

Effectively T-Mobile wants you to be a user of their new basket of T-Mobile phone plans. Start using one of those plans and if you use this new plan with a pixel phone you can upload a copy of your receipt of you buying the phone directly from Google (remember if you buy from google the phone is unlocked). Upload a copy of the receipt and T-Mobile will reduce the cost of the phone plan by $13.55 for each month, $13.55 a month x 24 months equals a total savings of $325. $325 is half the cost of the base model of the 5" inch 32 gb pixel.

If you are interested in doing this I would call and inquire that if this receipt would qualify for the discount if you use Google Store Financing where you can finance the phone through Google Store where you can buy the $650 phone over a payment of $27.04 over 24 months. If so, you effectively get the phone half off without doing a down payment. The only thing is you would want to use the T-Mobile One Unlimited Plan which is $70 for 1 line, $120 Total for 2 Lines, $140 Total for 3 Lines, or $140 Total for 4 Lines
 

Kazukian

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Roland, I posted about this on Thursday.

Yes, they offer the promo for financed phones

You must have a receipt and an IMEI # to register for the promo

Current wait time for the pixel is 3-4 weeks, so no IMEI for 3-4 weeks

Pixel XL is out of stock currently, it goes in and out of stock

TMobile will even give the promo to Verizon sourced Pixels, which are unlocked, so ALL pixels are unlocked.
 

sze5003

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That would be something to take advantage of if I didn't already have the T-Mobile network on metro. My plan over there is $55 a month unlimited everything because I set up a family plan and put my mother and sister on it too.

$70 isn't bad for one phone but after additional fees and taxes it will cost a little more.

Do they just cut you check at the end of the finance period for the $300 difference or does it come off your monthly bill?
 

Kazukian

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That would be something to take advantage of if I didn't already have the T-Mobile network on metro. My plan over there is $55 a month unlimited everything because I set up a family plan and put my mother and sister on it too.

$70 isn't bad for one phone but after additional fees and taxes it will cost a little more.

Do they just cut you check at the end of the finance period for the $300 difference or does it come off your monthly bill?

Monthly credit of $13.55. It works for me because I already have the plan and am locked in for the next 2 years for the iPhone promo on several lines. Have a pixel coming someday...
 

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That would be something to take advantage of if I didn't already have the T-Mobile network on metro. My plan over there is $55 a month unlimited everything because I set up a family plan and put my mother and sister on it too.

$70 isn't bad for one phone but after additional fees and taxes it will cost a little more.

Do they just cut you check at the end of the finance period for the $300 difference or does it come off your monthly bill?

As was just mentioned, it's a monthly bill credit. That's the only real catch: for obvious reasons, T-Mobile wants to keep you on its network for a while to recoup the costs of that credit and turn a profit. I'd say it's a fair trade, since you weren't going to get a discount if you used the Pixel on any other carrier as it is. That and it's an unlocked phone you can easily port to other carriers if you want to.
 

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I'm going to go out on a limb here and say Google may buy HTC. It also seems they will release a nexus 7 tablet which will also be made by HTC, sometime in December.

I can see it, I also see them selling it 2 years later to Huawei...

As was just mentioned, it's a monthly bill credit. That's the only real catch: for obvious reasons

Nah, the real catch is you need to sign up for their crappy One plan.
 

Roland00Address

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Roland, I posted about this on Thursday.

Yes, they offer the promo for financed phones.
Sorry did not see your post earlier, I looked but it was a quick scan and I missed it. Glad the deal also works for financed phones. I wished Google Fi did something similar, but then again Google Fi is cheaper if you do not need all that data that you get with an "unlimited plan."
 

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I haven't seen it yet, all camera lenses have a risk of lens flare effects. The camera has been great for me so far, there was a similar freakout when the iphone 5 came out and had pink lens flare but eventually people seemed to just forgot about it.
 
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