I have to look but isn't AMD's high end FX processors like 4 and 4.5 Ghz?Probably fake. And why would AMD release only locked 4c/8t and 6c/12t CPUs with 65W TDP ? They should compete with i5 and i7 Kaby Lake, and certainly will be clocked lower and have lower IPC than Intel's products. Which means they wouldn't be competitive in most of the tasks
FX 9590 is oc'd to 4.7GHzI have to look but isn't AMD's high end FX processors like 4 and 4.5 Ghz?
Based on the more believable rumor posted above from Tweaktown that ~$250 pricepoint will get you an SR5 6C/12T. With a cheaper mobo then Intel's HEDT and if it is able to achieve Haswell IPC at decent clocks, say 4ghz OC, then I think this is a killer deal as we see games start to utilize more cores. For video editing/content creation guys both the SR5 and SR7 will make a lot of sense. Only thing I hope is that these ZEN processors support the very fastest RAM like I'm sure Intel's 7700k will.So let’s have a little fun with this and pretend it’s accurate. Nothing happens in a vacuum and AMD has to provide better bang for the buck to get back market share from Intel. I tend to buy midrange systems so I would be most interested in the XP 613 at $240. If we go to Newegg, what can we get at that price? At $243 we have an i5-4690. It is Haswell which helps as Zen is supposed to have Haswell like performance.
In comparison, the i5-4690 has an iGPU and runs at a higher clock speed (3.5/3.9 vs 3.0/3.4). The XP 613 has 50% more cores/threads (6 vs 4) and runs cooler (65w vs 84w). Does this sound like a realistic scenario? The i5 has better single core performance due to its clock speed advantage, but the XP has better multicore performance because of its higher core count. It was the same argument when Bulldozer came out. The difference would be that Zen would actually have competitive IPC. Another quick search shows the i5-4690 have better performance than the newer but lower cost i5-6500.
Assuming Zen has up-to-date extensions and all that, this rumor might have some semblance of truth to it. Any idea when AMD will make this stuff public? All this guessing is fun but I would really prefer hard facts.
Skylake only shines with fast ram, IIRC.Would the fastest possible RAM really make much difference for consumer applications?
Based on the more believable rumor posted above from Tweaktown that ~$250 pricepoint will get you an SR5 6C/12T.
I doubt those prices have been decided yet. I would like the Turbo to be a notch higher, at least 3.6 or 3.7Ghz but this is not bad either. I wonder at what clocks will 4C/8T part ship at.If AMD has a part with 6C/12T, Haswell-level perf/MHz, and can achieve clocks similar to Haswell, $250 is not a realistic price point. They would charge more.
When AMD was in the lead and released a $1000 CPU, intel came in and undercut them by half!If AMD has a part with 6C/12T, Haswell-level perf/MHz, and can achieve clocks similar to Haswell, $250 is not a realistic price point. They would charge more.
So let’s have a little fun with this and pretend it’s accurate. Nothing happens in a vacuum and AMD has to provide better bang for the buck to get back market share from Intel. I tend to buy midrange systems so I would be most interested in the XP 613 at $240. If we go to Newegg, what can we get at that price? At $243 we have an i5-4690. It is Haswell which helps as Zen is supposed to have Haswell like performance..
When AMD was in the lead and released a $1000 CPU, intel came in and undercut them by half!
Just because someone charges a certain price for something doesn't mean it's actually worth that. There is always a tax associated with owning the "best".
Intel is living in the past. 6 core CPUs won't be unique unicorns anymore... Dual cores are nearing obsolescence, and we have been stuck on quad cores for the mainstream market for like a decade.
If AMD would want to reset their brand perception, the best way for that is to give a killer offer, like one you mentioned. There is a lot of reasons why AMD would do this. If Zen will be on Haswell level clock for clock, then next generation CPUs will only be better and that is potential for not only turning the tide on CPU market, but also growth for AMD. But for that they would require changing the perception of their brand.If AMD has a part with 6C/12T, Haswell-level perf/MHz, and can achieve clocks similar to Haswell, $250 is not a realistic price point. They would charge more.
Well, most of us here know the story behind that AMD marketing.Those aren't the same as intel's 6 and 8 cores though. PC components age, and become obsolete over time. I could have bought a 5820k 2 years ago for $300.
I cannot see myself buying a 6 core Zen for $300 now. It just doesn't make sense really.
Hell yes!!! I know I would as long as Linux is fully supported.If AMD would want to reset their brand perception, the best way for that is to give a killer offer, like one you mentioned. There is a lot of reasons why AMD would do this. If Zen will be on Haswell level clock for clock, then next generation CPUs will only be better and that is potential for not only turning the tide on CPU market, but also growth for AMD. But for that they would require changing the perception of their brand.
What is a better way for the "mindshare brand reset" than offering solid hardware at a bargain?
Think about this. 6 core Haswell-E for 250$(SR5), with GTX 1080(Vega 11) for 500$. Would you not buy something like this?
Still, core count wise AMD has still an edge. And Cannon Lake won't come until Q1 2018But the desktop competition in Q1 will be Kaby Lake, not Haswell.
Still, core count wise AMD has still an edge. And Cannon Lake won't come until Q1 2018
They have had that core count edge for years, though. It didn't boost their sales, apparently.Still, core count wise AMD has still an edge. And Cannon Lake won't come until Q1 2018