[UPDATE: Almost Certaintly Fake] AMD Zen branding, SKUs, and pricing

[Arachnotronic]

You know, the slide with the branding and such looked like it could be legit, but somebody could very well have just edited the HotChips slide with this same background.

Dang. These are probably both fakes.

 

[VirtualLarry]

Sorry, but anytime there's an XP, Windows XP ALWAYS comes to mind.

Yeah. Ask any "normal" person that buys a PC with Zen in it, and they'll say, "It's an XP computer". Just great, thanks for making tech-support harder, AMD.

 

[Arachnotronic]

Yeah. Ask any "normal" person that buys a PC with Zen in it, and they'll say, "It's an XP computer". Just great, thanks for making tech-support harder, AMD.

Don't worry, this is probably fake.

Still, though, I liked the idea of the AMD XP. I have fond memories of the Athlon XP

 

[Ajay]

So these are from a poster who said "Long story short: work as a pleb for MB OEM, someone left these in an unsecured folder.". Not from an actual news source.

But these are obviously super fake. Already been more concrete leaks about SR3 SR5 SR7 branding. Clockspeeds are counter to other recent leaks as well. Raven Ridge would not be priced this early as its a 3Q 2017 at the earliest.

Yeah, already read about the SRx branding - which makes more sense to me (not that it has to). And, seriously, if the 8 core doesn't clock up to 3.2 GHz, AMD is already on the back foot marketing wise (and way off on profits if the price is under $400).

 

[coercitiv]

AMD plans a limited launch with likey 1 SKU in Q1 2017. In Q4 2016 a leaked slide comes along detailing launch prices for the entire SKU line-up plus additional APUs based on same arch but planned for H2 2017 at best. So we are to believe AMD gives us pricing before launch schedule.

This fake is faking fake.

 

[inf64]

Yeah, already read about the SRx branding - which makes more sense to me (not that it has to). And, seriously, if the 8 core doesn't clock up to 3.2 GHz, AMD is already on the back foot marketing wise (and way off on profits if the price is under $400).

I think the SRx branding is real and the XP is fake. AMD MUST hit at least ~3.2Ghz base and ~3.6Ghz ST Turbo clocks if they want to be semi-competitive against Broadwell-E parts. They likely won't match top 8 core part but could land close, especially if the unlocked top 8C/16T part can clock to 4-4.2Ghz on good cooling.

 

[mikk]

Way too early for a price list of Raven Ridge that will come somewhere in H2 2017, it makes the entire table unreliable. And in most cases when it comes to such AMD leaks it was a fake. Another fake example might be this: http://wccftech.com/amd-zen-8-core-35ghz-cpu-spotted/

 

[VirtualLarry]

I don't really like the "SRx" branding. It sounds like "SteamRoller", which brings up memories of BullDozer. Which is a load of fail.

I think AMD should continue to use their "R" branding, R3/R5/R7/etc. that have been associated with their successful GPUs. (And SSDs)

So, I could see an "XP R3-whatever" / "XP R5" / "XP R7". Thus a merging of their "XP" branding that was used during one of their successful heydeys of CPUs, along with their current "Rx" branding used with their successful GPUs. Sort of a win-win if you ask me.

 

[Hi-Fi Man]

a CCX is 4 cores, there are 2 ccx's in a zeppelin. There are 4 Zeppelins in a Naples (32core 64 threads). so far Naples seems to max out at 2 sockets ( 64 core 128 threads),

Is each CCX a single die or are they all on the same die like Jaguar's modules were?

 

[Sweepr]

Fake, and I'm sure was already posted.

 

[plopke]

Looks awesome , but I am very sceptical. Also I stopped believing in any marketing slides that contains MSRP prices.

 

[IntelUser2000]

The Raven Ridge parts don't pass the smell test for me. Bristol Ridge today can do 512 cores and 1108 Mhz. It was rumored to be 704 cores.

Edit: Unless those APUs are rebranded Bristol Ridge. It'd be pretty stupid but I guess?

Here's an idea. About a quarter from XP release they release AP. Full performance iGPU comes 6 months later. The reason? They need a better CPU throughout their lines, so it's rushed out without the full graphics.

AMD MUST hit at least~3.2Ghz base and ~3.6Ghz ST Turbo clocks if they want to be semi-competitive against Broadwell-E parts

Must don't mean they can. Projects mess up, fall short of expectations. These things are very difficult to make. Controlled leaks are also possible until launch to keep certain secrets hidden.

 

[iBoMbY]

It's all within the range of the possible, but it simply raises too many questions, to be considered authentic at this point.

 

[Arachnotronic]

I think the SRx branding is real and the XP is fake. AMD MUST hit at least ~3.2Ghz base and ~3.6Ghz ST Turbo clocks if they want to be semi-competitive against Broadwell-E parts. They likely won't match top 8 core part but could land close, especially if the unlocked top 8C/16T part can clock to 4-4.2Ghz on good cooling.

Do you really think AMD is going to print on the box: "AMD [whatever brand] SR3 Processor"?

That's clunky.

 

[witeken]

Can we please not deteriorate the quality of this forum?

 

[itsmydamnation]

Is each CCX a single die or are they all on the same die like Jaguar's modules were?

A Zeppelin is a single die so two CCX's or 8 cores.

 

[Valantar]

A Zeppelin is a single die so two CCX's or 8 cores.

Would it perhaps be prudent for AMD not to name core components of their make-or-break new CPU after things mainly known for blowing up in a spectacular way? Next we'll be told the code name for their top-end Zen consumer SKU is Hindenburg...

 

[itsmydamnation]

Would it perhaps be prudent for AMD not to name core components of their make-or-break new CPU after things mainly known for blowing up in a spectacular way? Next we'll be told the code name for their top-end Zen consumer SKU is Hindenburg...

If you go look at a die shot you will see why its called Zeppelin.

 

[superstition]

Would it perhaps be prudent for AMD not to name core components of their make-or-break new CPU after things mainly known for blowing up in a spectacular way? Next we'll be told the code name for their top-end Zen consumer SKU is Hindenburg...

Use helium instead of hydrogen and one doesn't get explosions.

 

[Shamrock]

Yes, those are all K models, but there are no NON K models. (locked and unlocked versions). But those slides are showing Unlocked K models, AND locked normal models. That's what I meant. At least I can't find any. Either way, it's pretty obvious they did, LOL. Sorry if the wording was wrong. I am just a few weeks out of surgery.

Um...

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819113404&cm_re=amd_A10-_-19-113-404-_-Product

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819113360&cm_re=amd_A10-_-19-113-360-_-Product

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819113403&cm_re=amd_A10-_-19-113-403-_-Product

 

[majord]

There is K alongside non K currently (A10 7600 7800, etc)

 

[dark zero]

The Raven Ridge parts don't pass the smell test for me. Bristol Ridge today can do 512 cores and 1108 Mhz. It was rumored to be 704 cores.

Edit: Unless those APUs are rebranded Bristol Ridge. It'd be pretty stupid but I guess?

And how about if all those chips are SR, but the one who are supposed to be APUs are in fact iGPUless chips, only destined for OEMs that has the GPU incorporated on the board? Just like the Intel board with a GTX 1070 GPU on the board.

 

[unseenmorbidity]

Would AMD even bother making a dual core? Even intel has to be thinking about phasing out dual cores at this point.

The pricing looks a bit low, but that would depend on the performance.

 

[Byte]

Maybe they are looking to the glory days of AthlonXP, but that was so long ago and such boring branding, not even the enthusiast will probably find anything fond to resonate about it, esp with the tight Windows XP connection. I mean these aren't classic cars, tech people like the next thing. They should just do a Dodge with the Hellcat codename of the engine and just brand it AMD Zen.

 

[superstition]

Has this been posted yet?

http://hothardware.com/news/amds-8-core-zen-sr7-offers-core-i7-5960x-performance-at-499
http://www.tweaktown.com/news/55126/amds-new-zen-based-499-cpu-beats-intels-999/index.html