UPDATE: ATI Radeon DDR now only $100 (free shipping)

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StumbleBum1

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I just got my radeon ddr board from new egg and yes it is a ddr board except there is no fan, just a heatsink
 

eLuminati

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Booyah: goto Ati's site and dl an id app. As the name suggests, it tells you which Ati board you have.
 

BigGreenGumby

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The fan is cosmetic. The chip runs cold , so don't worry about not getting a fan because the fan does NOTHING except chew power that could be used in OC it.

I've got 2 Radeons now (1 64MB VIVO & 1 64MB Engineering sample) both are incredible cards. How else could I get a C300 to run Q3 at 1024x768 without stuttering on W2K (that blew my mind)
 

Lawton

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Hey guys.

I'm a Radeon owner (32ddr) as well, and I love it. It replaced a Herc GF2 GTS, so I had opportunity for immediate head-to-head comparison in all areas. The Radeon is the better card, IMO. I run Win98, so I can't comment about the current Win2k driver situation.

I do know (from the Rage3d Radeon forums & from interviews I have seen online with ATI staff) that ATI is developing from the ground up a unified driver architecture for Radeon and Radeon-based cards. Sometime between May and July we're supposed to see the release of the Radeon II, which at this point is supposedly running between 3 & 4 times as fast as the current Radeon and adds some features that ATI is quite reluctant to give details about. The unified drivers are being designed to support this line of cards as well as current cards.

The new line is supposed to be priced simiarly to the current Radeon crop (retail pricing), so you may see that Radeon 32ddr price drop below $100 fairly soon. You also supposedly WON'T be seeing a $500 price-tag on anything from ATI later this year (as opposed to the anticipated price of the 64mb NV20 cards when they arrive).
 

Martijnos

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I bought 3 of them to sell them here in Holland. Price is now $110,- I bought them for $115 a piece.....Good deal, now even better at $110 a piece.
 

oldfart

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Caution! Some of these cheap OEM Radeons are clocked @ 148 instead of the normal 166 for a 32 meg card. I would check on this before you order.
 

StumbleBum1

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I just checked mine with powerstrip and the old fart is right, the default clock speed is only 148Mhz
 

jsmckenna45431

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That is an awesome price. I would definitely go with it. I sell these cards at BB everyday for over $200. Just my 2 cents.
 

rosco6912

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i hate to say it as a long term supporter of 3dfx, but fu©kit - if you're going to spend money on 3D, spend it on NVDA =/
 

ss284

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anybody else got bouight from this place and have 148-148 speed settings?



-Steve
 

alrocky

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At ATI's web site, under their Trade-up & Promotions link, you can upgrade to a Radeon 64 mb DDR VIVO retail for $155. Click the U.S. Form to find the $185 offer and receive $30 back after you send them your old video card.
 

chasm22

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Here is the link to ATI that provides the information? about clock speed. ATI I believe there have been several articles written concerning ATI cards having lower clock speeds in their OEM cards versus their retail cards.

Here is another place that offers the OEM card for $109 shipped.Radeon
 

AmbitV

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yep I got the 148/148
but just boosted it right back to above normal in Powerstrip, runs stable at 180/180
 

dougjnn

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I don't know. I was leaning towards this card. But I think I'm going to get a Geforce2 GTS instead. eVGA makes a no name, but well reviewed, version with TV out that is pricewatch selling for $165.
 

MontyBurns

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We used to have this debate every two weeks. Now, seems like we have it every week. My $.02:

I own both a Radeon 32 meg DDR and a GeForce 2 GTS Pro (32 meg DDR). I play tons of games from both my systems, and I can say with certainty that there is NOT a consistent, obvious difference between these cards. If there is, you have driver and/or tweaking problems.

My Radeon works flawlessly with every game I've tried (including the ones here where the author alleged incompatibility.) Both cards completely scream with Unreal Tournament, Q3 Arena, Half Life/Counter Strike/Team Fortress, Mech4, and other high-drain games. I can play all those games in high color at 1024 x 768 with absolutely no problem.

ATi did, in fact, have problems with drivers on SOME of its cards in the past. However, they have been incredibly aggressive in keeping the Radeon up to date, and in fact were the first major manufacturer to claim at least some compatibility with Direct X8.0 (which will kill most GeForce-based cards, by the way. As a side note: Do NOT upgrade to Direct 8 unless you have a compelling reason to do so. And believe me, you don't.)

All that said: I think both cards rock. My advice would be to buy whichever one you can find cheaper. I promise that if you spend an extra $50 for a GTS (or a Radeon, if that's how it shakes out) you'll regret it, because there just isn't that much difference. And yes, future, more advanced games may in fact give one card a clearer lead, but by then there will be a pile of 64 meg cards on the market that everyone will want anyway.

So, that's it for my rant. I'll let the idiots babble on now about cards they don't own.
 

dougjnn

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MontyBurns --

Interesting comment.

My two reasons for currently leaning towards the Geforce2 Pro 32mb are:

TV out available on some of the cheapest boards (still 169 though); better win2k driver support, and faster driver updates; somewhat faster in some games at the 1280x1040x32 I would play at on my 20" Triniton; the Pro may be somewhat more overclockable, and hense somewhat faster than most reviews.

Do you have any comments on any of these? I have an open mind. I will probably keep the card for about 9-12 months, then buy a Nv20, some six months after it is out, and after it hopefully has come down in price and is getting games written for it/the X-Box.
 

tg67

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Possibly in response to the cnetpc price, newegg has also dropped their price to $100 including free shipping.

Does anyone know what (besides raw drivers) comes with the OEM version. Are there any utilities, like a DVD player?
 

Jonestown

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These oem radeon boards, at least from newegg.com are clocked at 148/148 and come with no fan, just the heatsink. I'm still thinking about this deal, but buy.com lowered the price of the retail radeon down to $150.95. I've still got the $30 off coupon in the basket, so that would get me the retail version for $120.95 plus shipping. I don't think that's too bad for the retail version. Does anyone know if I can still use the coupon that's in my basket without having to call their 1-800 number?

I don't think any of the oem boards come with any software other that a driver cd.
 
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