UPDATE: ATI Radeon DDR now only $100 (free shipping)

[WageSlave]

ATI isnt making much money? Are you on crack? They have huge OEM support

 

[Maverick2002]

bump (for all who still want this deal)

 

[Brix13]

got in on this deal not a bad deal on this card, would have preffered a fan instead of just a heatsink though

 

[Mustanggt]

SEEM LIKE A GOOD DEAL TO ME.

 

[sharkbitz]

FYI, ATI hired almost all the good engineers from 3dfx BEFORE Nvidia bought them.

 

[Coca-cola Bear]

I give the biggest thumbs up for the ATI Radeon. I've had both the Nvidia Geforce2 chips and the Radeon and I hooked on the radeon. There is no noticeable difference in play speed and the Radeon's image quality just blows the crap out of Nvidia's. That is in 2D. I can notice how fuzzy the lettering is when I'm running my work apps. And with W2K I'm running it now. It isn't perfect but, almost everything I've thrown at it runs and I've seen alot of improvement on ATI's part in the driver department. Don't even compare this part to there old rage128 this piece of work is great.

 

[dougjnn]

What still DOESN'T work win Win2k??

That is really important to me. I'm gonna be running Win2k almost all the time in the machine I'm building. Was gonna get the Radeon 64 meg for $158 at buy.com.

Now you are giving me pause.

 

[fxsts]

dougjnn,

If you have a 20" monitor, DON'T get Geforce2. For a big monitor running at high resolutions, G400 and G450 are the first two picks. But if you also like to play games, get Radeon.

I almost thought that extensive surfing on the net at 1600 x 1200 resolution with Geforce2 on my 21" was gonna make me go blind in a long term .

I cannot say that the 2D quality of Radeon crystal clear, but it is noticeably better than Geforce's.

 

[namlook]

I agree about the 2d image quality issue if you have a big monitor. I dumped the Geforce for the Radeon because I couldn't stand the fuzzy 2d image quality on my 21" monitor with the geforce. There is an obvious and noticeable difference between the two cards on your 2d desktop with a large monitor at high resolutions. I am much happier with the Radeon's image quality.

 

[Moz]

Pretty sweet deal, I picked this up at the previous 'deal' price of $125, can't say I'm dissapointed being an nvidia user all the way through. Sharp 2D, and decent framerates - hey for $100 bucks you can't go wrong!.

 

[j4ckhAir]

Tried both. (BTW, this comment is 3d design/gaming biased, while the ATI may be a better card/value for non-hardcore gamers this is not directed at them)

Display for 2d is better on Radeon (non-hardcore gamers).

Performance is better on the GTS for 3d, in high res, in 32b color (hardcore gamers).

ATI had a huge following (they were always the biggest force in mainstream computing) even when they were the worst at delivering drivers, and not arguably, but definitely had the worse cards for gaming: 100% brand name.

3dfx and Nvidia were the only ones who could do anything for gaming. Too bad 3dfx is gone, the more competitors the merrier, but can?t rely on brand name forever.

Now, they (ATI) come out with a product, pit it against the GTS, yet released later, and still cant win (it is a 3d card first I think), yet get still get much support from loyal followers: surprised? There was another company that had a knack for playing on name Brand. Hmm, 3dfx had a bunch of hardcore followers that clung to the name; ATI is a company that was almost exclusively based on its brand name, sold a sh1tload of cards but sucked sh1t. Perfect place for the herd types to continue their support of blind Nvidia bashing. Radeon is good, ATI seems to finally be getting better, but lets stick to reality here.

Corporate loyalty blows; whoever has the best product for my needs will get my money. For now, for gaming and 3D, Nvidia can?t be beat. But as soon as someone does, I?ll be the first to say.

 

[lundog22]

lol well said j4ckhAir ... A-MEN

 

[rmzalbar]

Interesting. My 2d has been great for the past year with my GeForce DDR card, running at 1600x1200 all the time on my 19" hitachi with default fonts/small icons. My buddies come over and stare, even my ol' blind dad can use it. I think some of it has to do with the board design - my asus v6800 deluxe isn't exactly reference. That said, I haven't seen a radeon running at the same resolution at the same frequency on this same monitor.

Also, what problems are people seeing with geforce breaking with dx8? I've been running dx8 with mine and don't have any problems, and I play lots of games.