UPDATE: I pull the trigger on the LG 226WT

[vlrvvv]

My menu seting are the same, but V1.10 (not 1.00 or 1.14), and ghosting problem are present I have installed ForteManager 2.76, but I dont know how to update firmare to V1.14 by it.

 

[BernardP]

Originally posted by: vlrvvv
My menu seting are the same, but V1.10 (not 1.00 or 1.14), and ghosting problem are present I have installed ForteManager 2.76, but I dont know how to update firmare to V1.14 by it.

Do you have a WT or a WTQ? It doesn't seem believable that there is a way for a user to update the firmware (service menu) through Forte Manager, even if a LG tech says so: How can the update reach the monitor through the DVI cable? You could ask LG if they want/can to do it, but would then have to return the monitor to them.

Have you tried using Forte Manager to disable f-engine, as explained by starbuck75 at the bottom of the previous page?

Through forte Manager, you can set a "User Preset" that disables the f-engine. If I remember correctly...there were three presets for f-engine: normal, movies, text, user...click on user, and it should take you into a custom menu where you might be able to disable the f-engine.

 

[xtknight]

Originally posted by: BernardP

Originally posted by: vlrvvv
My menu seting are the same, but V1.10 (not 1.00 or 1.14), and ghosting problem are present I have installed ForteManager 2.76, but I dont know how to update firmare to V1.14 by it.

Do you have a WT or a WTQ? It doesn't seem believable that there is a way for a user to update the firmware (service menu) through Forte Manager, even if a LG tech says so: How can the update reach the monitor through the DVI cable? You could ask LG if they want/can to do it, but would then have to return the monitor to them.

I2C bus between graphics card and monitor controller. (VESA DDC protocol)

Have you tried using Forte Manager to disable f-engine, as explained by starbuck75 at the bottom of the previous page?

Through forte Manager, you can set a "User Preset" that disables the f-engine. If I remember correctly...there were three presets for f-engine: normal, movies, text, user...click on user, and it should take you into a custom menu where you might be able to disable the f-engine.

F-engine as far as I know does not control RTC, only color and contrast control.

 

[Starbuck1975]

I spoke to tech support again...this time, they told me not to worry about the driver or Forte Manager.

Every time I speak with someone different, I ask the question about the WT vs. WTQ. This time, the tech support representative was familiar with the ghosting issue on the WTQ, and essentially told me there is no known fix...and that not everyone is experiencing the problem.

He did say that the only difference between the WT and WTQ is that the WTQ uses an updated version of the f-engine chip used to intensify the color.

I have probably spoken with 8 different LG tech people at this point, and none can provide a conclusive answer.

 

[BernardP]

Originally posted by: xtknight

Originally posted by: BernardP
It doesn't seem believable that there is a way for a user to update the firmware (service menu) through Forte Manager, even if a LG tech says so: How can the update reach the monitor through the DVI cable? You could ask LG if they want/can to do it, but would then have to return the monitor to them.

I2C bus between graphics card and monitor controller. (VESA DDC protocol) [/i]

Well... Live and learn!

I searched on I2C bus, but couldn't find anything specific to monitor firmware. What I don't understand, with all the firmware issues out there (eg: early BenQ 24-inch and Dell 24-inch revisions), is why there are no user updates available to upgrade monitor firmwares to later versions.

 

[vlrvvv]

Originally posted by: BernardP

Originally posted by: vlrvvv
My menu seting are the same, but V1.10 (not 1.00 or 1.14), and ghosting problem are present I have installed ForteManager 2.76, but I dont know how to update firmare to V1.14 by it.

Do you have a WT or a WTQ? It doesn't seem believable that there is a way for a user to update the firmware (service menu) through Forte Manager, even if a LG tech says so: How can the update reach the monitor through the DVI cable? You could ask LG if they want/can to do it, but would then have to return the monitor to them.

Have you tried using Forte Manager to disable f-engine, as explained by starbuck75 at the bottom of the previous page?

Through forte Manager, you can set a "User Preset" that disables the f-engine. If I remember correctly...there were three presets for f-engine: normal, movies, text, user...click on user, and it should take you into a custom menu where you might be able to disable the f-engine.

I have WTQ!
ForteManager can updates presets of the monitor, therefore it can write data to monitor.

 

[equivo]

I bought the L226WT from Micro Direct in the UK. Turns out it's a WTQ so I'm a bit pissed off with the false advertising on their website :|

Anyway I don't have a big problem with the ghosting as I can barely notice it. I do however, have quite bad issues with gamma and colour balance.

When I view the gamma and black level chart available here, my gamma is way off at all the available levels from 1 to 3. There seems to be some kind of green/yellowy hue in the alternate black/white lined strips which doesn't go away no matter what settings I use. With correct gamma, the strips are supposed to blend in with the grey background.. my monitor is a million miles from that.

Also, in black to white gradients, most of the darker tones show up noticably as brown instead of grey.


Any tips as to what settings I should use in the OSD, or any software I could try? Perhaps I have a defective monitor?


Incidentally, my old 19" Samsung 913N appears to have perfect 2.2 gamma and proper black-white gradients, but is crap in every other aspect compared to the LG!

 

[bradputt]

So i guess that after all we will have to live with this problem. In my country there's no return policy. tough luck huh>?

 

[equivo]

It seems the colour calibration tool that comes with ForteManager has actually fixed most of my gamma and colour balance problems.

Just been browsing through some old photos from a trip to South America and the accuracy of the colours is brilliant, no qualms with this screen at all now

 

[mercanucaribe]

Originally posted by: Starbuck1975
Some more comments on the LG 226WT after playing with it a bit last night.

The default factory settings looked incredible right out of the box...I did use the auto calibration feature to fine tune the brightness and sharpness a bit, but overall, I am pleased with the image quality.

Viewing angles are a non-issue...I literally had to stand up or move away from my desk to notice the viewing angle issues typically attributed to TN panels...but for normal use, I can't anticipate ever encountering a problem with the viewing angles.

I am still getting used to have this much real estate. I didn't notice any ghosting, but there is a little bit of motion blur, but I think it is because I still haven't found in game settings that my video card can handle at this resolution.

One thing worth mentioning is that my wife came in while I had Oblivion on the screen...I was just running about the forest, playing with different draw distances and texture settings, to see what my video card could handle...she never remarks on any of my games, and was WOWed a bit by the cinematic nature of playing in wide screen on such a large panel.

Haven't eyed any dead pixels as of yet...haven't run any tools yet to check the monitor from a technical perspective.

I am also noticing a bit of input lag, but it could be because I am using a wireless keyboard and mouse.

Overall, I am very pleased with my purchase, but am starting to think that even 22" may be too much LCD for me. However, I was probably due for a GPU upgrade anyway, and this gives me an excuse to upgrade my video card.

One question, since my LCD did not come with a DVI cable...will there be any difference in going from analog to digital, or should I just keep using the provided analog cable?

Keep using the analog cable? Why would you even ask that???

 

[b1gduk]

Originally posted by: mercanucaribe

Originally posted by: Starbuck1975
Some more comments on the LG 226WT after playing with it a bit last night.

The default factory settings looked incredible right out of the box...I did use the auto calibration feature to fine tune the brightness and sharpness a bit, but overall, I am pleased with the image quality.

Viewing angles are a non-issue...I literally had to stand up or move away from my desk to notice the viewing angle issues typically attributed to TN panels...but for normal use, I can't anticipate ever encountering a problem with the viewing angles.

I am still getting used to have this much real estate. I didn't notice any ghosting, but there is a little bit of motion blur, but I think it is because I still haven't found in game settings that my video card can handle at this resolution.

One thing worth mentioning is that my wife came in while I had Oblivion on the screen...I was just running about the forest, playing with different draw distances and texture settings, to see what my video card could handle...she never remarks on any of my games, and was WOWed a bit by the cinematic nature of playing in wide screen on such a large panel.

Haven't eyed any dead pixels as of yet...haven't run any tools yet to check the monitor from a technical perspective.

I am also noticing a bit of input lag, but it could be because I am using a wireless keyboard and mouse.

Overall, I am very pleased with my purchase, but am starting to think that even 22" may be too much LCD for me. However, I was probably due for a GPU upgrade anyway, and this gives me an excuse to upgrade my video card.

One question, since my LCD did not come with a DVI cable...will there be any difference in going from analog to digital, or should I just keep using the provided analog cable?

Keep using the analog cable? Why would you even ask that???

Use DVI when ever possible. Again my package differed from most you yours because mine came with one. Check Ebay, they can be obtained cheaply enough.

On the other subject

I feel sorry for those who are having problems with the WTQ. I find it fantastic. Not meaning to rub it in. I hope there is a solution. Sometimes manufacturers are very reluctant to admit there is a known fault because then they are admitting there is a design fault and responsible for correcting/replacing all those screens affected and if this problem is widespread as it seems then they will do almost anything to avoid the financial hit. I hope consumer power provails. In the UK we have the sales of goods act which means that if you buy something that is either "not fit for purpose" or not as advertised then we have rights in law to resolve the matter to our satisfaction. If this was me with the problem I would be returning the monitor as faulty and requesting a full refund as it is advertised as 2ms response time even though a 5 or 8ms unit reacts quicker. So either it is false advertising or its broken and not fit for purpose.

 

[Starbuck1975]

Oh I resolved the DVI versus analog question like 3 pages back.

Also, as mentioned previously, I ended up returning my WTQ for a WT. The WT doesn't have the ghosting issues of the WTQ, but the color vibrance is not as intense...although to be fair, the intensity of the WTQ was proving a bit much for my eyes for marathon gaming sessions.

 

[Starbuck1975]

So I was in Best Buy yesterday picking up some CDs, and couldn't resist walking back to the LCD section to see what they had out for the 226.

I checked the two 226WTs they had on display...both were in fact WTs, and I checked the service menus on both, and they both had LG panels...of course I managed to find the one WT with a CMO panel, but oh well.

They had a brand new stack of WTQs on the shelf...no WTs at all...again, based on reports I have seen in this forum, and others, the WTs are quickly disappearing.

If you go to newegg, they are selling the WTX, which is supposed to be the consumer version of the WT...curious as to whether or not LG implemented the overdrive technology into the WTX, and didn't change the model name to reflect the change as they did in the shift from WT to WTQ.

I would be curious, if anyone purchases a WTQ in the US, if it still has the ghosting issue. There are numerous reports coming in from UK users that their WTQs don't have the ghosting issue.

 

[pleccy2000]

Hi - I read this thread just after i placed my order yesterday for my WTQ model. Obvioulsy i have been really worried all day. I set up the monitor a couple of hours ago, and no ghosting at all? I am trying really hard to find the issue but i can't!

In service menu it says
v.1.14
LPL22W4 if that means anything to anyone?

 

[pleccy2000]

Hi - I read this thread just after i placed my order yesterday for my WTQ model. Obvioulsy i have been really worried all day. I set up the monitor a couple of hours ago, and no ghosting at all? I am trying really hard to find the issue but i can't!

In service menu it says
v.1.14
LPL22W4 if that means anything to anyone?

 

[Starbuck1975]

Pleccy2000,

The best way to test if you have the ghosting issue is as follows:

Open MS Paint.
Fill the entire screen as grey.
Now draw a red circle over the grey background.
Minimize MS Paint so that you can move it across the screen.
Drag the window...if you have the ghosting issue, a red halo will follow the circle as you drag it.

If you do not have the ghosting issue, I would be curious to know where you purchased your monitor.

 

[dedejean]

Is there any way to find out the firmware version without opening the box?

 

[BernardP]

Hey pleccy2000, your post is ghosting!

 

[Starbuck1975]

Is there any way to find out the firmware version without opening the box?

I asked LG this question, and there is no way to check the firmware from outside the box.

However, based on the recent posts to this thread, it appears that firmware version 1.14, dated in mid March, has apparently fixed the ghosting issue on the WTQ. If you look at posters from the UK, and now here in the States, their service menu is showing firmware version 1.14 and an LG panel.

At this point, you best bet is to purchase a WTQ from a recent shipment. I dont have the box in front of me, but it may show the manufacture date on the UPC code.

I would assume any panel manufactured after say April would have the new firmware fix. I could be mistaken.

 

[dedejean]

my 226wtq-wf 1.14 just arrived...

i am playing with it right now... its really hard to get the right color. Anyone got good profile for this?

 

[eif4f]

I went to 2 local bestbuys yesterday and all they had were the WTQs.
Does anyone who recently got this model notice any ghosting or such effects?
I'm still undecided whether to get this one or to get the Samsung 226bw (probably only c models left for the 226bw)

 

[dedejean]

@eifaf

mine does not have ghosting issue. It has v1.14 firmware. Moreover, i has 3 different panel selections, namely: LPL22w.4, LPL22w.G.4, and CMO22w.4

I cannot see any significant difference with the three panels. I mean its almost no difference at all. Anybody who can confirm this?

 

[Starbuck1975]

dedejean,

Where did you order your LG226WTQ from?

As for the panel settings in the service menu og my LG226WT, mine only has two options...LPL and CMO...I switched mine to LPL from CMO as the colors became a bit more vivid, but the different is very subtle.

 

[dedejean]

@starbucks
I am from philippines, there are only few importers here.

With my two LPL panel options, doesnt seem much of a difference. Do you need to turn the monitor on and off for that to take effect? Even the CMO option dont change much, if not at all.

Oh btw, i tried your ghosting-ms-paint test. Circle is filled with red also? Or just a red-circled-outline?


Another question, i tried xtknights' LG226WT profile, but didnt use xcalib. I just added it in the color management (under display properties) and applied it. Is that the same as using xcalib (i dont know how to use this)? Moreover, his profile says:

LG L226WT - L* 200 cd/m2 @ 6500K (daylight)
by xtknight

Results
ICM Profile

Settings:
Brightness: 72
Contrast: 65
Gamma: 0
f-Engine: Normal
Color: sRGB
Sharpness: 5

HAve some few questions if you dont mind:
1. LG L226WT - L* 200 cd/m2 @ 6500K (daylight) = i dont get this. It says COLOR = sRGB. If i set the color to sRGB (move the slide of the preset to the left most), i cannot select 6500k.
2. Contrast: 65 = If I set the color preset to sRGB, the contrast is unchangeable.
3. Color: sRGB = is this really the preset?

Thanks for your time.

 

[mudcake]

How do you go from the service menu back to the normal menu