UPDATE: I pull the trigger on the LG 226WT

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Starbuck1975

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The backlight bleeding on mine is minimal at best...the only time I truly notice it is during boot up...once I am in Win XP, it is not an issue at all.

Similarly, on some games, during the initial loading, it is noticeable, but while gaming, again not an issue at all.

Honestly, the only time I notice it is when the screen is entirely black, but the situations where one would encounter that is limited.

One question...what settings have you guys set your monitor to...during gaming, I love this monitor, but for desktop applications, the brightness can be a bit blinding.
 

Fattysharp

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I recently picked up the 20" widescreen LG model before this one when future shop had them on sale for 279.00cad . The L204WTX-SF. I am amazed at the image quality and gaming is great on widescreen. The only thing i have noticed (might be the 8800 drivers) that i need to force vertical sync driver side, or i will get screen tearing in all games. This would happen even if vertical sync was turned on in game.

My wife did the same thing, everytime she walks into my computer room, she comments on how nice the monitor is. Before she just use to complain i was gaming
 

FTemplar

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Take a look at the LG L204WT. (299$ Canadian).
I've been using one for a few months now and it meets my needs (which are, mostly gaming and surfing the net) the monitor has a constrast ratio of 1:2000 and if i'm not wrong, that's very good for its class.

The only downside I have found for me is that when playing older games whose resolution is not widescreen (Diablo 2, Starcraft etc), I had to buy the DVI cable to be able to use the scaling option with ATI's control panel otherwise with a VGA input the option would be grayed out.
 

Starbuck1975

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This past weekend was my first opportunity to game on the 226WT for any extended period of time, and all I can say is...WOW.

Put in about 2 hours of Supreme Commander, with no eye strain, motion blur or ghosting.

I am at a point now where I would highly recommend this LCD for anyone attracted to the price/performance tier offered by this specific 22" TN panel.

Honestly, having read all of the warnings about TN panel quality, I really haven't found it to be that significant of a limiting factor.
 

ViperMichael

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Very interested in this monitor does it just have a VGA and DVI, or like the dells have composite and analog etc, please any info on specific connectors would help.
 

Starbuck1975

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Very interested in this monitor does it just have a VGA and DVI, or like the dells have composite and analog etc, please any info on specific connectors would help.
You could always check the tech specs on LGs website, but yes, it has both VGA and DVI connectors.
 

BernardP

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Originally posted by: Starbuck1975
One question...what settings have you guys set your monitor to...during gaming, I love this monitor, but for desktop applications, the brightness can be a bit blinding.

Have you seen the new Monitor settings thread?

Your new LG226WT is right in there. Here are xtknight's settings

Settings:

Brightness: 72
Contrast: 65
Gamma: 0
f-Engine: Normal
Color: sRGB
Sharpness: 5




 

mark0417

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Hi, its me again. I ended-up returning the LG 226WTQ I got due to some ghosting issues - must have just gotten a bad one - no biggie.

But here is my dilemma - got an LG 226WT - no Q, in return. The difference between the two (as many of you know I'm sure) is the WTQ has 2ms response time, and the WT has 5ms.

Here is my quandry: I like to game, but I also want my colors to be as rich and "alive" as possible. I have heard (and I have no clue if this is true or not) that the lower the response time, the less accurate the colors.

I am trying to decide on the 226WT -vs- the 226WTQ

Any advice or opinions would be greatly appreciated!

Thanks!

 

Messudieh

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Originally posted by: mark0417
Hi, its me again. I ended-up returning the LG 226WTQ I got due to some ghosting issues - must have just gotten a bad one - no biggie.

But here is my dilemma - got an LG 226WT - no Q, in return. The difference between the two (as many of you know I'm sure) is the WTQ has 2ms response time, and the WT has 5ms.

Here is my quandry: I like to game, but I also want my colors to be as rich and "alive" as possible. I have heard (and I have no clue if this is true or not) that the lower the response time, the less accurate the colors.

I am trying to decide on the 226WT -vs- the 226WTQ

Any advice or opinions would be greatly appreciated!

Thanks!

Former 226WTQ owner here also.

Stay with the 226WT. Period.

It's such a better panel for anything involving motion that any possible color difference is insignificant. I have played around with the settings on my 226WT and you can get the colors to be very "vibrant" although they aren't going to be completely accurate. I first adjusted the monitor to be very vibrant, but after adjusting it with all the calibrations in the thread, it does look a lot more muted. That could also be because the muted is actually proper.
 

Gusty987

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Originally posted by: Messudieh
Originally posted by: mark0417
Hi, its me again. I ended-up returning the LG 226WTQ I got due to some ghosting issues - must have just gotten a bad one - no biggie.

But here is my dilemma - got an LG 226WT - no Q, in return. The difference between the two (as many of you know I'm sure) is the WTQ has 2ms response time, and the WT has 5ms.

Here is my quandry: I like to game, but I also want my colors to be as rich and "alive" as possible. I have heard (and I have no clue if this is true or not) that the lower the response time, the less accurate the colors.

I am trying to decide on the 226WT -vs- the 226WTQ

Any advice or opinions would be greatly appreciated!

Thanks!

Former 226WTQ owner here also.

Stay with the 226WT. Period.

It's such a better panel for anything involving motion that any possible color difference is insignificant. I have played around with the settings on my 226WT and you can get the colors to be very "vibrant" although they aren't going to be completely accurate. I first adjusted the monitor to be very vibrant, but after adjusting it with all the calibrations in the thread, it does look a lot more muted. That could also be because the muted is actually proper.

I also had the WTQ for a couple days before I took it back and insisted on a WT. Ghosting and halos were horrendous on the Q.
 

mark0417

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Originally posted by: Messudieh
Originally posted by: mark0417
Hi, its me again. I ended-up returning the LG 226WTQ I got due to some ghosting issues - must have just gotten a bad one - no biggie.

But here is my dilemma - got an LG 226WT - no Q, in return. The difference between the two (as many of you know I'm sure) is the WTQ has 2ms response time, and the WT has 5ms.

Here is my quandry: I like to game, but I also want my colors to be as rich and "alive" as possible. I have heard (and I have no clue if this is true or not) that the lower the response time, the less accurate the colors.

I am trying to decide on the 226WT -vs- the 226WTQ

Any advice or opinions would be greatly appreciated!

Thanks!

Former 226WTQ owner here also.

Stay with the 226WT. Period.

It's such a better panel for anything involving motion that any possible color difference is insignificant. I have played around with the settings on my 226WT and you can get the colors to be very "vibrant" although they aren't going to be completely accurate. I first adjusted the monitor to be very vibrant, but after adjusting it with all the calibrations in the thread, it does look a lot more muted. That could also be because the muted is actually proper.


Thanks Messudieh. I noticed that the WT seems to do better with motion as well. That seems so odd to me though, as I would think the lower the response time, the better the panel should be with motion. But as we've both apparently noticed, thats not the case here. Thanks again!

 

Messudieh

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No problem.

Yeah, the WTQ supposedly has a lower response, but it's either complete lies (read: marketing) or ... well ... that's all it really could be, because they seem to be doing a damn good job of "marketing".
 

Starbuck1975

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I just checked my monitor out of curiosity, and I have the LG 226WTQ-BF.

I assume this is the dreaded Q panel mentioned previously in this thread.

If I go to return this LCD, is there any way to tell if I am getting a Q or not short of opening up the box in the store?

Needless to say I am a bit concerned now. The only ghosting I notice is when I move the mouse cursor against my desktop...in gaming, none that I can tell...I play mostly RTS games, which isnt problematic really for ghosting anyway...may play some FPS games later this week to see if I notice anything.

Any data on what the difference is between the two panels?

I also had the WTQ for a couple days before I took it back and insisted on a WT. Ghosting and halos were horrendous on the Q.
Under which conditions did you notice ghosting and halos...I havent really encountered a noticeable problem as of yet.
 

Gusty987

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Originally posted by: Starbuck1975
I just checked my monitor out of curiosity, and I have the LG 226WTQ-BF.

I assume this is the dreaded Q panel mentioned previously in this thread.

If I go to return this LCD, is there any way to tell if I am getting a Q or not short of opening up the box in the store?

Needless to say I am a bit concerned now. The only ghosting I notice is when I move the mouse cursor against my desktop...in gaming, none that I can tell...I play mostly RTS games, which isnt problematic really for ghosting anyway...may play some FPS games later this week to see if I notice anything.

Any data on what the difference is between the two panels?

I also had the WTQ for a couple days before I took it back and insisted on a WT. Ghosting and halos were horrendous on the Q.
Under which conditions did you notice ghosting and halos...I havent really encountered a noticeable problem as of yet.

Ghosting was very noticeable on the WTQ, for example during FPS gaming, like in BF2, hum-vees driving by, or planes or missiles flying by, all left whitish streaks behind them. Streaks behind mouse like you say also, basically anything that moved fast across the screen left a white streak behind it. Also, there were white halos around any black text that was on anything but a white background.

My new WT has none of these issues...

You can look at the sticker on the box (the one on the side) to determine model number.
 

mark0417

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Originally posted by: Starbuck1975
I just checked my monitor out of curiosity, and I have the LG 226WTQ-BF.

I assume this is the dreaded Q panel mentioned previously in this thread.

If I go to return this LCD, is there any way to tell if I am getting a Q or not short of opening up the box in the store?

Needless to say I am a bit concerned now. The only ghosting I notice is when I move the mouse cursor against my desktop...in gaming, none that I can tell...I play mostly RTS games, which isnt problematic really for ghosting anyway...may play some FPS games later this week to see if I notice anything.

Any data on what the difference is between the two panels?

I also had the WTQ for a couple days before I took it back and insisted on a WT. Ghosting and halos were horrendous on the Q.
Under which conditions did you notice ghosting and halos...I havent really encountered a noticeable problem as of yet.


On the WTQ, I first noticed the ghosting playing World of Warcraft. When you looked at a character against a white background, and then ran past them, a slight "halo" in the shape of the character would remain for a moment.

Fortunately, as has been mentioned, the difference is right there on the box No need to have the box opened, look under a panel, or anything like that. When I returned the WTQ to Circuit City, I was able to see them side by side. The WT box says 226 WT, and the WTQ box says 226 WTQ on the sticker on the side. An interesting note, however, is that both monitors printed out the exact same number of my receipt - odd - although the WT ended-up costing me a bit more because the WTQ was on sale

Hope this helps!
 

Starbuck1975

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I played a little Oblivion last night, and here were my observations.

On the periphery of my vision, there was a little motion blur...for instance, objects and characters directly in my line of sight remained clear...to the edges of the screen, as I passed objects, there was some motion blur.

When I run my mouse across a very light background, there is a noticeable motion blur, shadowing and ghosting...but the conditions under which I encounter this scenario are few and far between.

I fired up Half Life, as it tends to have lighter environments, and didn't notice ghosting, even against light colored backgrounds.

I didn't notice the ghosting you all mentioned, but as I don't play Counterstrike, Battlefield, or other ultra fast paced games, this may never be an issue for me.


I am concerned about sacrificing color quality for ghosting...the "Q" version of the 226WT definitely has vibrant colors, and someone else mentioned that WT loses the ghosting problem, but also some color accuracy.

As I still have 2 weeks to return this LCD or exchange it, I will run some more tests...would be curious to hear more feedback.
 

Starbuck1975

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I just shot LG an email asking for them to specify the differences between the 226WT, 226WTX, 226WTX-BF and 226WTQ...I have seen this LCD listed under all of these variants on numerous online vendor sites. I will report back if I learn anything of value.
 

mark0417

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The biggest difference I know of between the WT and the WTQ is the response time (WT 5ms, WTQ 2ms).

Not sure about the others though

Mark
 

Starbuck1975

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Short of setting up the LCDs side by side, I am not sure that I can confirm any of these rumors about the ghosting problem on the WTQ.

LG emailed me back and told me to call customer service...I will post here if I find out anything.
 

Starbuck1975

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Just got off the phone with LG, and the tech support woman I spoke with stated that there is no difference between the WT and WTQ...she said they use the same panel, and have the same response time of 5ms???

She said that LG uses the WT and WTQ nomenclature to track supply chain distribution only???
 

Duke79

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Did the LG representative say anything about the WTX version?

That is the one that NE is selling and I just wonder if there are any differences between it and the WT that is sold at our local BB.
 

Starbuck1975

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I didn't ask about the WTX version, but she did say that all 226W models use the same panel, and that any variants to the model number are simply for tracking purposes...I would imagine that applies to the "X" variant as well.

 

Gusty987

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Originally posted by: Starbuck1975
Short of setting up the LCDs side by side, I am not sure that I can confirm any of these rumors about the ghosting problem on the WTQ.

Sure you can...

Why don't you go down to your local Best Buy or Circuit City or whatever and see if they have the WT on display for you to play with?

When I still had the WTQ, I did this and both the BB and the CC stores near me had the 226WT on display, so I played with them and quickly noticed the differences in ghosting.

That's what made me decide to return the WTQ to Circuit City and insist on the WT instead.

 

Duke79

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Thanks for the quick response Starbuck1975!

Although it seems that the answer doesn't address the differences that users are reporting after actually having one in their possession.

I plan on purchasing a new LCD tomorrow so I had hoped to have a more definitive answer about the different model variants.
 
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