UPDATE: Provantage WILL honor their pre-order 6800 price

[SynthDude2001]

Finally, some good news to post in this thread! I seem to be one of the lucky ones who got in on the deal. The Provantage order status page has finally been updated with a tracking number:


Status: This invoice has been completed.
Invoice date: Wednesday, July 21, 2004
Ship via: Ground Delivery
Tracking number: ************************


Strangely, when I go to track the package on the UPS website, there is a note saying it has a "rescheduled" delivery date of July 26, 2004. And, apparently this "regional warehouse" is in Mesquite, TX - that's the origin of the package.

But, in any case, I'm just really glad the deal worked for a few of us, especially with all the rampant price-gouging going on by vendors.

 

[zlooop]

Originally posted by: dud
So does this mean that the whinning will stop and that zlooop will be changing his feedback on Reselleratings.com?

So much wasted time and energy on a damn piece of computer hardware!

Dont be a dick.

If a company offers an advertised price and there is an order invoice, you have to fulfill that price. It was not a mistake, and that makes it illegal and unethical.

If companies were allowed to change prices all the time, there would be no such thing as capitalism.

Go away if you are going to thread crap.

 

[eraser2k1nin]

yup just got a call from provantage seems like my order was not honored either...damn i wish new egg would get some more cards and lower the prices also...lol

 

[DefRef]

Originally posted by: zlooop
Their price change is completely illegal.

No, it wasn't. We all - well, those of us who aren't acting like children - knew that this was a possible outcome. Read the whole thread. We have a right to be disappointed, but not to say we're surprised. They're covered legally, if not ethically or in a "good business" sense.

 

[zlooop]

Sorry, DefRef you are wrong. Go do some research and find the Consumer Protection Acts.

 

[DefRef]

Why? It's you who refuses to acknowledge that right on the shopping cart, when you first put the item in, they clearly say:

Out of Stock Items: Occasionally, the price may change on an out-of-stock item due to an unexpected cost increase. If this happens, we will contact you to ask if you want to continue your order at the new price, or cancel your order.

MATURE people noticed that all along, but go ahead and file your lawsuits and make your complaints and keep us posted as to how it works out for you.:roll:

 

[user1234]

Originally posted by: DefRef

Originally posted by: zlooop
Their price change is completely illegal.

No, it wasn't. We all - well, those of us who aren't acting like children - knew that this was a possible outcome. Read the whole thread. We have a right to be disappointed, but not to say we're surprised. They're covered legally, if not ethically or in a "good business" sense.

it's always a possible outcome that someone will not honor their obligations, but that doesn't mean it's legal. If a business willingly gives a price quote for a product or service, and then takes an order for the product, then they must fullfil the order at the quoted price. They can't just decide to cancel orders or retroactively change the price because they realize they can make more money. btw, the little bastards now raised the price to 448. I wish someone will make them pay for this.

 

[ColdBrew]

All hail the mighty mature DefRef who can crap golden eggs!

 

[aldamon]

Originally posted by: DefRef
Why? It's you who refuses to acknowledge that right on the shopping cart, when you first put the item in, they clearly say:

Out of Stock Items: Occasionally, the price may change on an out-of-stock item due to an unexpected cost increase. If this happens, we will contact you to ask if you want to continue your order at the new price, or cancel your order.

MATURE people noticed that all along, but go ahead and file your lawsuits and make your complaints and keep us posted as to how it works out for you.:roll:

I agree DefRef. I was in on the Best Buy / GeForce fiasco from two years ago. We had a beef then, but this really does not compare. Best Buy actually changed their TOS after the fact. These guys had their back-order terms spelled out right on the order page. You win some and you lose some on the deals forum.

 

[CactusJac]

What does everyone make of this? I haven't gotten an e-mail stating they raised the price and I haven't gotten an e-mail stating that it has shipped. The order page is still "Status: We are waiting for additional information so we can process your Internet order."

Am I screwed or still in the running? I ordered on the 16th so that should give me some sort of tenure right?

 

[dud]

zloop said:

Dont be a dick.

If a company offers an advertised price and there is an order invoice, you have to fulfill that price. It was not a mistake, and that makes it illegal and unethical.


If companies were allowed to change prices all the time, there would be no such thing as capitalism.


Go away if you are going to thread crap.

Zloop, before you accuse someone of being a dick you should look in the mirror. Go back and read your comments in this thread. I am not a lawyer and while I COULD comment on the legality of this issue, I will not and YOU should not either!

The facts (as I read them) of this sad story are:

1. Company made offer to sell X at Y (preorder) price.
2. You and others accepted said offer gleefully.
3. Later, company changes offer because of an increase in their supplier's cost, BUT still gives you the chance to accept or deny it. ( I find it funny how MANY people posted many times between (2) and (3) above wondering if it could be possible for this to be real - only to be disappointed.
4. All hell breaks loose because you didn't get your way.

You are acting like a spoiled child. Yes, you can claim to be disappointed but you did not lose anything! Did you lose any $$$ on this - NO! You are so bitter about not getting a piece of computer hardware that you vengefully go to RESELLERATINGS and say those HURTFULL things that you said. You make it sound like the world is comming to an end.

Pick yourself up, get your mommy to brush away your tears and move on.

 

[ColdBrew]

Same thing happened to me and guess almost everyone else here. They are not going to honor the price. Call them and they will explain it.

Originally posted by: CactusJac
What does everyone make of this? I haven't gotten an e-mail stating they raised the price and I haven't gotten an e-mail stating that it has shipped. The order page is still "Status: We are waiting for additional information so we can process your Internet order."

Am I screwed or still in the running? I ordered on the 16th so that should give me some sort of tenure right?

 

[imported_ShadowHawk]

Originally posted by: DefRef
Did anyone see the thread about the GM Employee Discount at CompUSA that said cost on the GT was $312? Even if Provantage was somehow being charged $360 for the cards, they could've fulfilled at cost and saved the grief for everyone.

I don't believe that they're trying to recoup the cash on the few cards they will actually deliver. It's not like they sell one item and it's a zero sum game - the hit on this is a drop in their overall balance sheet ocean. If they are trying to recoup, not only do they look unscrupulous, but they lose any potential future business. Too bad for them.

I want to pick up on this for people.. CompUSA does indeed get charged $312 for their PNY GTs (i was shown this, since i got my GT for below thier cost....)

Addditionally, i cant see how PNY jacked up their prices, when on THIER site, the card is 399, and most everybody else (store-wise) can sell it for that ammount as well. Personally, i dont belive provantage is taking a loss at all on this. I think they just got greedy...

 

[imported_ShadowHawk]

odd repost, my bad...

 

[edumacated81]

Synth,

I have more good news. I just got mine in the mail today, via UPS . I checked it to make sure it wasn't vanilla, nope GT!

I never got a tracking number, strangely enough. I feel really bad that more of you weren't able to get in on it...just a few buyers in TX.

God Bless TX! :beer:

 

[BuckNaked]

Originally posted by: edumacated81
Synth,

I have more good news. I just got mine in the mail today, via UPS . I checked it to make sure it wasn't vanilla, nope GT!

I never got a tracking number, strangely enough. I feel really bad that more of you weren't able to get in on it...just a few buyers in TX.

God Bless TX! :beer:

Congrats! Glad to hear someone got one!

 

[rms]

Well, I'm in New Mexico, and my order status is still "shipped on 7/21 but no tracking number". Here's hoping it arrives early next week!

rms

 

[DefRef]

What's weird is my status is still: Status: We are waiting for additional information so we can process your Internet order. You'd think that after yesterday's letter, they'd have decided one way or another. Maybe they're still translating it!

 

[artemicion]

Originally posted by: dud
zloop said:

Dont be a dick.

If a company offers an advertised price and there is an order invoice, you have to fulfill that price. It was not a mistake, and that makes it illegal and unethical.


If companies were allowed to change prices all the time, there would be no such thing as capitalism.


Go away if you are going to thread crap.

Zloop, before you accuse someone of being a dick you should look in the mirror. Go back and read your comments in this thread. I am not a lawyer and while I COULD comment on the legality of this issue, I will not and YOU should not either!

The facts (as I read them) of this sad story are:

1. Company made offer to sell X at Y (preorder) price.
2. You and others accepted said offer gleefully.
3. Later, company changes offer because of an increase in their supplier's cost, BUT still gives you the chance to accept or deny it. ( I find it funny how MANY people posted many times between (2) and (3) above wondering if it could be possible for this to be real - only to be disappointed.
4. All hell breaks loose because you didn't get your way.

You are acting like a spoiled child. Yes, you can claim to be disappointed but you did not lose anything! Did you lose any $$$ on this - NO! You are so bitter about not getting a piece of computer hardware that you vengefully go to RESELLERATINGS and say those HURTFULL things that you said. You make it sound like the world is comming to an end.

Pick yourself up, get your mommy to brush away your tears and move on.

Regardless of the fact that they warned us in advance of their shady practices does not in any way, shape or form make this acceptable. I could wear a hat that says "TENDENCY TO KILL PEOPLE" but going around with a knife and stabbing people to death wouldn't be legal in any sense and certainly not morally justifiable.

I'm not arguing whether or not what they did was legal, and if it is, it certainly shouldn't be in the future. I DO think this type of behavior from a company is unacceptable. I DO think that when someone experiences this type of shady business practice that they should tell others about it to warn them. I DO think this is the perfect medium to warn others. I also DO think that anybody who got screwed over by this mess should inform whatever consumer protection agency that is appropriate about what happens if they feel so obliged.

Oh, and I DO feel that if you have no sympathy whatsoever on the matter, you should shut your hole (if you don't care, and you CLICKED on this thread and POSTED on this thread, you are quite obviously talking just for the sake of people hearing your arrogent voice).

Like I said before, if this type of practice was acceptable, which you seem to think it is, ALL companies would advertise at price points below intended final prices with their stupid little caveats and we would all get denied at the counter and through e-mails. It would be a system where the price advertised for pre-orders basically MEANS NOTHING and that the final price come day of shipping could be ANYTHING in the company's desire to inform you of. Regardless of whether or not they ask your confirmation, that would be quite the frustrating system, I imagine.

 

[zlooop]

Originally posted by: dud
zloop said:

Dont be a dick.

If a company offers an advertised price and there is an order invoice, you have to fulfill that price. It was not a mistake, and that makes it illegal and unethical.


If companies were allowed to change prices all the time, there would be no such thing as capitalism.


Go away if you are going to thread crap.

Zloop, before you accuse someone of being a dick you should look in the mirror. Go back and read your comments in this thread. I am not a lawyer and while I COULD comment on the legality of this issue, I will not and YOU should not either!

The facts (as I read them) of this sad story are:

1. Company made offer to sell X at Y (preorder) price.
2. You and others accepted said offer gleefully.
3. Later, company changes offer because of an increase in their supplier's cost, BUT still gives you the chance to accept or deny it. ( I find it funny how MANY people posted many times between (2) and (3) above wondering if it could be possible for this to be real - only to be disappointed.
4. All hell breaks loose because you didn't get your way.

You are acting like a spoiled child. Yes, you can claim to be disappointed but you did not lose anything! Did you lose any $$$ on this - NO! You are so bitter about not getting a piece of computer hardware that you vengefully go to RESELLERATINGS and say those HURTFULL things that you said. You make it sound like the world is comming to an end.

Pick yourself up, get your mommy to brush away your tears and move on.

blah blah blah

how long did that post take you?

I was pissed at an unethical and illegal move by provantage.

I think you should go spend time wackin it to some anime porn collection instead of wasting time posting in an topic you have no relation to.

Oh, and now that i actually read your annoying post. ... bestbuy did offer 299 for the BFG GT and they honored that.

 

[SynthDude2001]

Originally posted by: edumacated81
Synth,

I have more good news. I just got mine in the mail today, via UPS . I checked it to make sure it wasn't vanilla, nope GT!

I never got a tracking number, strangely enough. I feel really bad that more of you weren't able to get in on it...just a few buyers in TX.

God Bless TX! :beer:

Glad to hear that! Mesquite is close to Dallas/Ft. Worth, isn't it? It's not surprising that you'd have gotten your card today then - I'm in San Antonio, which is why mine won't be here until Monday.

Now to try to occupy myself this weekend while I wait for the 6800GT...

 

[user1234]

agreed. Let's look at the facts shall we :

1. Selling the card at MSRP already guarantees the retailer a nice profit margin.
2. The card will be available from other retailers (e.g. outpost, bestbuy) for MSRP or less
no later than the time it'll be available from provantage.
3. The only reason anyone orders from this no-name store is because it advertises a lower
price than the brand name retailers which sell at msrp or less (see 2).
4. Their "disclosure" that the price may go up on out-of-stock items is very suspect, since
basically they are trying to get you to buy at a price of their choice.
5. This is not really about their cost, it's about getting the customer to feel like he/she is getting
in on a deal or guarantee of early shipment, while agreeing to pay any price that provantage
chooses in return. (If it was about cost, then could the price also go down ?).
6. Based on above, the advertised price has absolutely no significance at all, since the actual
price will be much higher for sure.
7. Therefore, it is pure stupidity to order the card from this "company", since the only thing it
guarantees is paying their real inflated price and getting the card no sooner than any other
store.

 

[adelphi]

the other guarantee i got from ordering through provantage is that now i shall find sweet sweet
slumber knowing that my cc# and personal info is safe in this fine company's superior IT dept, no
doubt will have impeccable security and my info would not be sold to advertisers

 

[edumacated81]

Originally posted by: SynthDude2001

Originally posted by: edumacated81
Synth,

I have more good news. I just got mine in the mail today, via UPS . I checked it to make sure it wasn't vanilla, nope GT!

I never got a tracking number, strangely enough. I feel really bad that more of you weren't able to get in on it...just a few buyers in TX.

God Bless TX! :beer:

Glad to hear that! Mesquite is close to Dallas/Ft. Worth, isn't it? It's not surprising that you'd have gotten your card today then - I'm in San Antonio, which is why mine won't be here until Monday.

Now to try to occupy myself this weekend while I wait for the 6800GT...

Yeah, I'm in Fort Worth (I think I'm the luckiest one in the thread). Some friends of mine were supposed to be playing UT2004 tonight...time to break out the big gun..

SA is great. I go there at least a couple times a year. Dick's is one of my fave restaurants. Anyway, gotta stay OT. GL with yours!

 

[Toad21]

So what kind of deals are you guys going to get now? I just ordered this PNY new in box for 390 shipped from someone on the Hardforums.