I stand corrected then. I have only ever rolled-over IRA funds and 401ks from previous employers.
That's what's usually necessary: Some kind of change/triggering event. Leaving a job is one of those. Others include something like going on disability, reaching retirement age, or the company terminating the plan completely.
I guess I'm well off? 27, married, maxing out my 401k, 2 ROTH IRA's, working on getting my wife to contribute more than 10%, and my employer also has a hybrid 401k match/pension.
I also have a 2006 car and could give two shits less. I will drive it till the wheels fall off. My wife on the other hand has a 2008 car and she feels she is the one that needs a new car. It's just more of the Keeping up with the Jones. We also live in a modest house for the area (and for our income). Hell, our home value is less than our yearly combined income.
It's not luck to start substantially contributing to investment retirement accounts at an early age instead of focusing on depreciating assets that have no real value the moment it leaves the store. People fail because it's a choice.
Being able to max out a 401k in the first place means you're quite well-off as far as I'm concerned. Median
household income right now is around $53k, versus $18k/year for one person for a 401k. I'm living on my own, so I've got just one person to house, clothe, feed, and entertain. If your household has two working adults in it, I'd expect some cost savings there. But I understand that kids aren't exactly a cheap proposition. Squeezing out that $18k will probably get a bit tricky.
There's also some luck involved in being able to land a job that pays enough to permit you to invest that much money.
- Who you know.
- Who your parents know.
- Where you live.
- Any unexpected expenses that severely disrupt plans for the future.
Someone I know ran into some unexpected things:
- One kid with some serious medical conditions that cost a good chunk of money to treat.
- Second kid ended up coming with an unexpected third: Twins.
That'll put a dent in what you can invest, and when you can start.
I had some lucky breaks that ended up landing me in a job straight out of college. Yes, granted, some of that was due to working hard in college and doing well enough that my name would come up in conversations among the staff and people they knew. But there's still a lot of luck in timing. That job I got started about a month before a hiring freeze was implemented after the recession started in 2009, meaning I had just squeaked in ahead of it.
It's nice to be able to attribute the blame to a person because it's certain. No one likes uncertainty, and it's not fun to think that your own place in life is the way it is by luck, to any degree. Random chance can take away just as much as it can give.
(Note that I don't want to discount bad choices. People are plenty good at doing that. I mainly want to be sure that the sometimes significant role of random chance is factored somewhere in there.)
you could invest in the s&p 500 index for the majority of your investments and plan for a 20+ year time frame
if your going to retire soon that does suck about it being 7% down but if your not going to then your buying in at a cheaper rate
A relative of mine freaked out on Black Monday, like it was the end of the first-world forever.
On a long-term chart like that, it's a blip.