UPDATED March 3: BBC World, BBC News 24 & CNN Reported WTC7 Fell before it did (Video)

[palehorse]

lol.. mannn, what I wouldnt give to meet one of these nujobs in real life... I think it would lead to hours of entertainment that you can't find anywhere else!

Now that think about it, I did meet one of these goofballs the other day... and I even threw a few coins in his cup!

 

[imported_Aelius]

This is what I'm talking about. I'm claimed to have no critical thinking yet here we have claims that perhaps they made a mistake in reporting which building fell down. They repeat over and over that it is the Salomon Brothers Building. Not just her mind you but the anchor as well, long before she comes on the air.

All of this is dismissed and you people wrongly point to the woman as having perhaps made a mistake.

Obviously you people either did not watch the longer videos available or simply do not have 2 brain cells to rub togeather.

Neither does anyone else here think for one second about the CNN broadcast that mentioned the same thing 65 minutes before the building fell.

A lot of you mention thinking or critical thinking. For that to occur you would actually first need to take into account the information before dismissing it out of hand. Obviously that was just too difficult for any of you.

Having debated with some of you before I'm not shocked.

 

[Acanthus]

Originally posted by: Aelius
Updated Story as it is developing.

Please see my EDIT for new information.

Time Stamp included for BBC News 24 footage and CNN clearly states it's 4:15pm and that WTC7 has collapsed or is collapsing.

Suggesting that it's reasonable to conclude that they may say this because there was a fire, as they state in the video, and that a collapse could happen is complete hogwash as no steel frame building before 9/11 has ever collapsed. It should also be noted that no steel frame building since 9/11 has collapsed either (some partial collapse of some partial floors at the extreme).

The WTC was a radical design with structural flaws that have been pointed out many times.

 

[imported_Aelius]

Originally posted by: Acanthus

Originally posted by: Aelius
Updated Story as it is developing.

Please see my EDIT for new information.

Time Stamp included for BBC News 24 footage and CNN clearly states it's 4:15pm and that WTC7 has collapsed or is collapsing.

Suggesting that it's reasonable to conclude that they may say this because there was a fire, as they state in the video, and that a collapse could happen is complete hogwash as no steel frame building before 9/11 has ever collapsed. It should also be noted that no steel frame building since 9/11 has collapsed either (some partial collapse of some partial floors at the extreme).

The WTC was a radical design with structural flaws that have been pointed out many times.

You are evading the primary points discussed. The claims that you mention did not occur until long after the collapse. Regardless of this what I said stands as fact.

Why don't you try to respond to the main points in this discussion instead?

 

[fskimospy]

Originally posted by: Aelius
This is what I'm talking about. I'm claimed to have no critical thinking yet here we have claims that perhaps they made a mistake in reporting which building fell down. They repeat over and over that it is the Salomon Brothers Building. Not just her mind you but the anchor as well, long before she comes on the air.

All of this is dismissed and you people wrongly point to the woman as having perhaps made a mistake.

Obviously you people either did not watch the longer videos available or simply do not have 2 brain cells to rub togeather.

Neither does anyone else here think for one second about the CNN broadcast that mentioned the same thing 65 minutes before the building fell.

A lot of you mention thinking or critical thinking. For that to occur you would actually first need to take into account the information before dismissing it out of hand. Obviously that was just too difficult for any of you.

Having debated with some of you before I'm not shocked.

Look man, here's the deal. Is it strange that both networks would do that? Sure. The thing is, that the evidence against a conspiracy vastly outweighs the evidence for one. The practical difficulties in creating a conspiracy of that complexity, of that size, to conceal a crime that enormous, without a single person having a crisis of conscience for killing 3,000 people is incredibly unlikely.

It is far, far more likely that mixed reports coming from other people led to confusion in a situation like that. If you can find me a single conspirator, or a single document, then maybe we can talk. Until then... I will make fun of you.

 

[noto12ious]

Originally posted by: eskimospy

Originally posted by: Aelius
This is what I'm talking about. I'm claimed to have no critical thinking yet here we have claims that perhaps they made a mistake in reporting which building fell down. They repeat over and over that it is the Salomon Brothers Building. Not just her mind you but the anchor as well, long before she comes on the air.

All of this is dismissed and you people wrongly point to the woman as having perhaps made a mistake.

Obviously you people either did not watch the longer videos available or simply do not have 2 brain cells to rub togeather.

Neither does anyone else here think for one second about the CNN broadcast that mentioned the same thing 65 minutes before the building fell.

A lot of you mention thinking or critical thinking. For that to occur you would actually first need to take into account the information before dismissing it out of hand. Obviously that was just too difficult for any of you.

Having debated with some of you before I'm not shocked.

Look man, here's the deal. Is it strange that both networks would do that? Sure. The thing is, that the evidence against a conspiracy vastly outweighs the evidence for one. The practical difficulties in creating a conspiracy of that complexity, of that size, to conceal a crime that enormous, without a single person having a crisis of conscience for killing 3,000 people is incredibly unlikely.

It is far, far more likely that mixed reports coming from other people led to confusion in a situation like that. If you can find me a single conspirator, or a single document, then maybe we can talk. Until then... I will make fun of you.

Sibel Edmonds if proof. sorry eskimospy, you lose.

Able Danger is proof the US. government ordered military officers to stand down from the 9/11 hijackers.

The pakistani government wired the lead 9/11 hijacker $100,000 yet the US government turns the other cheek

 

[Brainonska511]

Originally posted by: Mill
9/11 conspiracy theorists need to be beaten with a rake.

:thumbsup:

This is such a stupid thread. I can't believe people are so adament about this being a conspiracy.

News Flash: It's not some giant government conspiracy. Your just an idiot. You might want to try loosing up that tin foil hat, it's cutting off the circulation to your brain.

 

[fskimospy]

Originally posted by: noto12ious

Originally posted by: eskimospy

Originally posted by: Aelius
This is what I'm talking about. I'm claimed to have no critical thinking yet here we have claims that perhaps they made a mistake in reporting which building fell down. They repeat over and over that it is the Salomon Brothers Building. Not just her mind you but the anchor as well, long before she comes on the air.

All of this is dismissed and you people wrongly point to the woman as having perhaps made a mistake.

Obviously you people either did not watch the longer videos available or simply do not have 2 brain cells to rub togeather.

Neither does anyone else here think for one second about the CNN broadcast that mentioned the same thing 65 minutes before the building fell.

A lot of you mention thinking or critical thinking. For that to occur you would actually first need to take into account the information before dismissing it out of hand. Obviously that was just too difficult for any of you.

Having debated with some of you before I'm not shocked.

Look man, here's the deal. Is it strange that both networks would do that? Sure. The thing is, that the evidence against a conspiracy vastly outweighs the evidence for one. The practical difficulties in creating a conspiracy of that complexity, of that size, to conceal a crime that enormous, without a single person having a crisis of conscience for killing 3,000 people is incredibly unlikely.

It is far, far more likely that mixed reports coming from other people led to confusion in a situation like that. If you can find me a single conspirator, or a single document, then maybe we can talk. Until then... I will make fun of you.

Sibel Edmonds if proof. sorry eskimospy, you lose.

Able Danger is proof the US. government ordered military officers to stand down from the 9/11 hijackers.

The pakistani government wired the lead 9/11 hijacker $100,000 yet the US government turns the other cheek

What the hell does that person have to do with a conspiracy to destroy the world trade center? Did she plant any bombs in there? Did she know anyone who did? Did she help hijack anything? Covering up documents that show your agency screwed up has NOTHING to do with that whatsoever. I asked for someone in on that conspiracy. So... still waiting.

 

[Acanthus]

Originally posted by: Aelius

Originally posted by: Acanthus

Originally posted by: Aelius
Updated Story as it is developing.

Please see my EDIT for new information.

Time Stamp included for BBC News 24 footage and CNN clearly states it's 4:15pm and that WTC7 has collapsed or is collapsing.

Suggesting that it's reasonable to conclude that they may say this because there was a fire, as they state in the video, and that a collapse could happen is complete hogwash as no steel frame building before 9/11 has ever collapsed. It should also be noted that no steel frame building since 9/11 has collapsed either (some partial collapse of some partial floors at the extreme).

The WTC was a radical design with structural flaws that have been pointed out many times.

You are evading the primary points discussed. The claims that you mention did not occur until long after the collapse. Regardless of this what I said stands as fact.

Why don't you try to respond to the main points in this discussion instead?

Because they are so frivolously stupid that anyone with an IQ over 80 doesnt even need to think about it.

It has been 5 years, 5 fvcking YEARS and you people are still droning on about this.

 

[First]

If the timestamp is accurate, all it shows is that BBC reported incorrect information. The problem with conspiracy theory nuts is that they draw radical conclusions about what it means, with no evidence of course, with in this case the added claim that the scope of the 9/11 conspiracy was not only U.S.-sanctioned, but a multi-national effort aided by Britain. Thing is, not one single person since 9/11 has come forward with evidence that there was a 9/11 conspiracy. And we all know how likely it is that people don't leak information. Uh huh.

Unfortunately we don't ban for stupidity here.

 

[mfs378]

Originally posted by: Acanthus

Originally posted by: Aelius

Originally posted by: Acanthus

Originally posted by: Aelius
Updated Story as it is developing.

Please see my EDIT for new information.

Time Stamp included for BBC News 24 footage and CNN clearly states it's 4:15pm and that WTC7 has collapsed or is collapsing.

Suggesting that it's reasonable to conclude that they may say this because there was a fire, as they state in the video, and that a collapse could happen is complete hogwash as no steel frame building before 9/11 has ever collapsed. It should also be noted that no steel frame building since 9/11 has collapsed either (some partial collapse of some partial floors at the extreme).

The WTC was a radical design with structural flaws that have been pointed out many times.

You are evading the primary points discussed. The claims that you mention did not occur until long after the collapse. Regardless of this what I said stands as fact.

Why don't you try to respond to the main points in this discussion instead?

Because they are so frivolously stupid that anyone with an IQ over 80 doesnt even need to think about it.

It has been 5 years, 5 fvcking YEARS and you people are still droning on about this.

You know it was a pretty big thing that happened five years ago.

Apparently someone told CNN and BBC that WTC7 had collapsed before it happened. Now its fine if you don't care who did so, but it is a legitimate question to ask. Or do you think that questions of any sort are out of line? All questions deserve nothing but ridicule and derision in response?

 

[mfs378]

Originally posted by: Evan Lieb
If the timestamp is accurate, all it shows is that BBC reported incorrect information. The problem with conspiracy theory nuts is that they draw radical conclusions about what it means, with no evidence of course, with in this case the added claim that the scope of the 9/11 conspiracy was not only U.S.-sanctioned, but a multi-national effort aided by Britain. Thing is, not one single person since 9/11 has come forward with evidence that there was a 9/11 conspiracy. And we all know how likely it is that people don't leak information. Uh huh.

Unfortunately we don't ban for stupidity here.

If you think all it shows is that BBC reported incorrect information, then if the forum was run according to your wishes you would be banned. How dense can you be?

 

[Rainsford]

Originally posted by: Aelius
This is what I'm talking about. I'm claimed to have no critical thinking yet here we have claims that perhaps they made a mistake in reporting which building fell down. They repeat over and over that it is the Salomon Brothers Building. Not just her mind you but the anchor as well, long before she comes on the air.

All of this is dismissed and you people wrongly point to the woman as having perhaps made a mistake.

Obviously you people either did not watch the longer videos available or simply do not have 2 brain cells to rub togeather.

Neither does anyone else here think for one second about the CNN broadcast that mentioned the same thing 65 minutes before the building fell.

A lot of you mention thinking or critical thinking. For that to occur you would actually first need to take into account the information before dismissing it out of hand. Obviously that was just too difficult for any of you.

Having debated with some of you before I'm not shocked.

You want some critical thinking? Well here ya go, Chief...try to keep up.

Say you're running a huge government conspiracy to precipitate a war, a conspiracy involving thousands of people, and of such scale that if anyone every pins it on you, it will be a race between the mob and the courts as to who gets to lynch you first. Keeping it secret is the most important objective, and too many people already have been involved. Yet, despite all that, you let the news media in on it...the news media that can't keep a government secret faster than their reporters can type. You give them a heads up, for reasons the conspiracy folks don't seem to think too much about, and not a single one of them blabs. Despite the fact that they love attention, and nothing would be an attention getter like this. They must have evidence, but NOBODY breaks the story.

And don't forget the best part, despite the fact that you were able to secretly carry out the biggest secret attack on the people by their government in history, you are apparently too stupid to not leave around little "clues" for the Hardy Boys and Nancy Drew to find (and perhaps the Scooby gang as well, those darn kids!). Forget logic, forget facts! Some dude said "it sounded like a bomb" and some time stamps don't quite match up. Clearly the only explanation is that the Keystone Kops are running the government, creating extremely complex, yet oddly inept, plots. And don't forget we're involving not only the government, but the media, two groups with a LONG history of being unable to keep their collective mouths shut about even the smallest things.

Forget the nit picking. Yes, the various conspiracy theory "clues" have been debunked again and again by people who actually know what they are talking about. But even if you're some kind of moron who doesn't know anything about architectural engineering, or airplanes, or bombs, or anything at all, think about the big picture. The conspiracy theory, regardless of what the details might be, is just too stupid to be real. End of story.

 

[JD50]

Well said Rainsford.

On a side note, you conspiracy theorists are nuts, but at least you can bring together just about everybody on this board and we can all agree on something.

 

[Acanthus]

Originally posted by: mfs378

Originally posted by: Acanthus

Originally posted by: Aelius

Originally posted by: Acanthus

Originally posted by: Aelius
Updated Story as it is developing.

Please see my EDIT for new information.

Time Stamp included for BBC News 24 footage and CNN clearly states it's 4:15pm and that WTC7 has collapsed or is collapsing.

Suggesting that it's reasonable to conclude that they may say this because there was a fire, as they state in the video, and that a collapse could happen is complete hogwash as no steel frame building before 9/11 has ever collapsed. It should also be noted that no steel frame building since 9/11 has collapsed either (some partial collapse of some partial floors at the extreme).

The WTC was a radical design with structural flaws that have been pointed out many times.

You are evading the primary points discussed. The claims that you mention did not occur until long after the collapse. Regardless of this what I said stands as fact.

Why don't you try to respond to the main points in this discussion instead?

Because they are so frivolously stupid that anyone with an IQ over 80 doesnt even need to think about it.

It has been 5 years, 5 fvcking YEARS and you people are still droning on about this.

You know it was a pretty big thing that happened five years ago.

Apparently someone told CNN and BBC that WTC7 had collapsed before it happened. Now its fine if you don't care who did so, but it is a legitimate question to ask. Or do you think that questions of any sort are out of line? All questions deserve nothing but ridicule and derision in response?

At this point, you are doing nothing but annoying the world with stupidity.

Like you a few years ago i asked questions and looked at it objectively.

I determined beyond any doubt that the official story is correct, the only coverup is the governments total lack of ability to stop it from happening.

There are mountains and mountains of evidence supporting the what really happened, and im tired of hearing from you. Im not trying to silence your voice because im some shill or whatever youre going to try to say that i am. Im just sick and tired of hearing about this unintelligible crap spewing from you morons.

Call it a personal attack, call me whatever you want, its stupid to even argue the facts anymore.

Its over.

GO AWAY.

 

[First]

Originally posted by: mfs378

If you think all it shows is that BBC reported incorrect information, then if the forum was run according to your wishes you would be banned. How dense can you be?

Explain in detail why that's the case. I know it's difficult for conspiracy theorists to come up with cogent, well thought-out arguments without radical speculation or embellishment, but give it a shot.

 

[noto12ious]

Originally posted by: eskimospy

Originally posted by: noto12ious

Originally posted by: eskimospy

Originally posted by: Aelius
This is what I'm talking about. I'm claimed to have no critical thinking yet here we have claims that perhaps they made a mistake in reporting which building fell down. They repeat over and over that it is the Salomon Brothers Building. Not just her mind you but the anchor as well, long before she comes on the air.

All of this is dismissed and you people wrongly point to the woman as having perhaps made a mistake.

Obviously you people either did not watch the longer videos available or simply do not have 2 brain cells to rub togeather.

Neither does anyone else here think for one second about the CNN broadcast that mentioned the same thing 65 minutes before the building fell.

A lot of you mention thinking or critical thinking. For that to occur you would actually first need to take into account the information before dismissing it out of hand. Obviously that was just too difficult for any of you.

Having debated with some of you before I'm not shocked.

Look man, here's the deal. Is it strange that both networks would do that? Sure. The thing is, that the evidence against a conspiracy vastly outweighs the evidence for one. The practical difficulties in creating a conspiracy of that complexity, of that size, to conceal a crime that enormous, without a single person having a crisis of conscience for killing 3,000 people is incredibly unlikely.

It is far, far more likely that mixed reports coming from other people led to confusion in a situation like that. If you can find me a single conspirator, or a single document, then maybe we can talk. Until then... I will make fun of you.

Sibel Edmonds if proof. sorry eskimospy, you lose.

Able Danger is proof the US. government ordered military officers to stand down from the 9/11 hijackers.

The pakistani government wired the lead 9/11 hijacker $100,000 yet the US government turns the other cheek

What the hell does that person have to do with a conspiracy to destroy the world trade center? Did she plant any bombs in there? Did she know anyone who did? Did she help hijack anything? Covering up documents that show your agency screwed up has NOTHING to do with that whatsoever. I asked for someone in on that conspiracy. So... still waiting.

You're a tad...slow. Learn to make a connection?

You want the people who planted the bombs to come forward? That's like asking for the numerous snipers who shot at JFK to come forward LOL. What are you thinking?

In other news, more evidence of BOMBS that were planted in the towers:

Bombs in the WTC (5 minutes)

Eyewitness testimonies and audio recorded numerous large detonations before the towers came down :thumbsup: Funny, even the FBI thought devices brought down the towers.

 

[JD50]

Originally posted by: noto12ious

Originally posted by: eskimospy

Originally posted by: noto12ious

Originally posted by: eskimospy

Originally posted by: Aelius
This is what I'm talking about. I'm claimed to have no critical thinking yet here we have claims that perhaps they made a mistake in reporting which building fell down. They repeat over and over that it is the Salomon Brothers Building. Not just her mind you but the anchor as well, long before she comes on the air.

All of this is dismissed and you people wrongly point to the woman as having perhaps made a mistake.

Obviously you people either did not watch the longer videos available or simply do not have 2 brain cells to rub togeather.

Neither does anyone else here think for one second about the CNN broadcast that mentioned the same thing 65 minutes before the building fell.

A lot of you mention thinking or critical thinking. For that to occur you would actually first need to take into account the information before dismissing it out of hand. Obviously that was just too difficult for any of you.

Having debated with some of you before I'm not shocked.

Look man, here's the deal. Is it strange that both networks would do that? Sure. The thing is, that the evidence against a conspiracy vastly outweighs the evidence for one. The practical difficulties in creating a conspiracy of that complexity, of that size, to conceal a crime that enormous, without a single person having a crisis of conscience for killing 3,000 people is incredibly unlikely.

It is far, far more likely that mixed reports coming from other people led to confusion in a situation like that. If you can find me a single conspirator, or a single document, then maybe we can talk. Until then... I will make fun of you.

Sibel Edmonds if proof. sorry eskimospy, you lose.

Able Danger is proof the US. government ordered military officers to stand down from the 9/11 hijackers.

The pakistani government wired the lead 9/11 hijacker $100,000 yet the US government turns the other cheek

What the hell does that person have to do with a conspiracy to destroy the world trade center? Did she plant any bombs in there? Did she know anyone who did? Did she help hijack anything? Covering up documents that show your agency screwed up has NOTHING to do with that whatsoever. I asked for someone in on that conspiracy. So... still waiting.

You're a tad...slow. Learn to make a connection?

You want the people who planted the bombs to come forward? That's like asking for the numerous snipers who shot at JFK to come forward LOL. What are you thinking?

In other news, more evidence of BOMBS that were planted in the towers:

Bombs in the WTC (5 minutes)

Eyewitness testimonies and audio recorded numerous large detonations before the towers came down :thumbsup: Funny, even the FBI thought devices brought down the towers.

You still haven't explained why they would leak something to the press that they don't want anyone to find out.

And you still haven't explained how in the world such a mass cover up is even possible. You guys are looney.

 

[noto12ious]

Originally posted by: JD50

Originally posted by: noto12ious

Originally posted by: eskimospy

Originally posted by: noto12ious

Originally posted by: eskimospy

Originally posted by: Aelius
This is what I'm talking about. I'm claimed to have no critical thinking yet here we have claims that perhaps they made a mistake in reporting which building fell down. They repeat over and over that it is the Salomon Brothers Building. Not just her mind you but the anchor as well, long before she comes on the air.

All of this is dismissed and you people wrongly point to the woman as having perhaps made a mistake.

Obviously you people either did not watch the longer videos available or simply do not have 2 brain cells to rub togeather.

Neither does anyone else here think for one second about the CNN broadcast that mentioned the same thing 65 minutes before the building fell.

A lot of you mention thinking or critical thinking. For that to occur you would actually first need to take into account the information before dismissing it out of hand. Obviously that was just too difficult for any of you.

Having debated with some of you before I'm not shocked.

Look man, here's the deal. Is it strange that both networks would do that? Sure. The thing is, that the evidence against a conspiracy vastly outweighs the evidence for one. The practical difficulties in creating a conspiracy of that complexity, of that size, to conceal a crime that enormous, without a single person having a crisis of conscience for killing 3,000 people is incredibly unlikely.

It is far, far more likely that mixed reports coming from other people led to confusion in a situation like that. If you can find me a single conspirator, or a single document, then maybe we can talk. Until then... I will make fun of you.

Sibel Edmonds if proof. sorry eskimospy, you lose.

Able Danger is proof the US. government ordered military officers to stand down from the 9/11 hijackers.

The pakistani government wired the lead 9/11 hijacker $100,000 yet the US government turns the other cheek

What the hell does that person have to do with a conspiracy to destroy the world trade center? Did she plant any bombs in there? Did she know anyone who did? Did she help hijack anything? Covering up documents that show your agency screwed up has NOTHING to do with that whatsoever. I asked for someone in on that conspiracy. So... still waiting.

You're a tad...slow. Learn to make a connection?

You want the people who planted the bombs to come forward? That's like asking for the numerous snipers who shot at JFK to come forward LOL. What are you thinking?

In other news, more evidence of BOMBS that were planted in the towers:

Bombs in the WTC (5 minutes)

Eyewitness testimonies and audio recorded numerous large detonations before the towers came down :thumbsup: Funny, even the FBI thought devices brought down the towers.

You still haven't explained why they would leak something to the press that they don't want anyone to find out.

And you still haven't explained how in the world such a mass cover up is even possible. You guys are looney.

cover-ups happen all the time. I'm not sure what you're smoking. IE, Operation Northwoods is just a small example JFK is another. gg.

Actually, the entire american media got word that WTC7 was coming down before it actually did. Funny, no steel building has ever come down due to fire alone. Why would they want to tell the media? to cause more shock and outrage.

Edit: funny how you can't address the video i just posted. laugh.

 

[JEDIYoda]

Originally posted by: noto12ious

Originally posted by: eskimospy

Originally posted by: noto12ious

Originally posted by: eskimospy

Originally posted by: Aelius
This is what I'm talking about. I'm claimed to have no critical thinking yet here we have claims that perhaps they made a mistake in reporting which building fell down. They repeat over and over that it is the Salomon Brothers Building. Not just her mind you but the anchor as well, long before she comes on the air.

All of this is dismissed and you people wrongly point to the woman as having perhaps made a mistake.

Obviously you people either did not watch the longer videos available or simply do not have 2 brain cells to rub togeather.

Neither does anyone else here think for one second about the CNN broadcast that mentioned the same thing 65 minutes before the building fell.

A lot of you mention thinking or critical thinking. For that to occur you would actually first need to take into account the information before dismissing it out of hand. Obviously that was just too difficult for any of you.

Having debated with some of you before I'm not shocked.

Look man, here's the deal. Is it strange that both networks would do that? Sure. The thing is, that the evidence against a conspiracy vastly outweighs the evidence for one. The practical difficulties in creating a conspiracy of that complexity, of that size, to conceal a crime that enormous, without a single person having a crisis of conscience for killing 3,000 people is incredibly unlikely.

It is far, far more likely that mixed reports coming from other people led to confusion in a situation like that. If you can find me a single conspirator, or a single document, then maybe we can talk. Until then... I will make fun of you.

Sibel Edmonds if proof. sorry eskimospy, you lose.

Able Danger is proof the US. government ordered military officers to stand down from the 9/11 hijackers.

The pakistani government wired the lead 9/11 hijacker $100,000 yet the US government turns the other cheek

What the hell does that person have to do with a conspiracy to destroy the world trade center? Did she plant any bombs in there? Did she know anyone who did? Did she help hijack anything? Covering up documents that show your agency screwed up has NOTHING to do with that whatsoever. I asked for someone in on that conspiracy. So... still waiting.

You're a tad...slow. Learn to make a connection?

You want the people who planted the bombs to come forward? That's like asking for the numerous snipers who shot at JFK to come forward LOL. What are you thinking?

In other news, more evidence of BOMBS that were planted in the towers:

Bombs in the WTC (5 minutes)

Eyewitness testimonies and audio recorded numerous large detonations before the towers came down :thumbsup: Funny, even the FBI thought devices brought down the towers.

I want to personally thank You noto12ious in this public forum for purchasing all the tin Foils hats I currently have in stock!! Your a tribute to your breed!!

 

[BoberFett]

Originally posted by: noto12ious
cover-ups happen all the time. I'm not sure what you're smoking. IE, Operation Northwoods is just a small example JFK is another. gg.

Actually, the entire american media got word that WTC7 was coming down before it actually did. Funny, no steel building has ever come down due to fire alone. Why would they want to tell the media? to cause more shock and outrage.

Edit: funny how you can't address the video i just posted. laugh.

Seems to me that if the conspirators knew the building was coming down, there'd be no need to leak it. Just wait a little while and the press will find out all on there own when the damn building collapsed. :roll:

You people are insane.

 

[morkinva]

WTC7 was a highly stucturally reinforced building

New York Times article 1989

[...] ''We built in enough redundancy to allow entire portions of floors to be removed without affecting the building's structural integrity, on the assumption that someone might need double-height floors,'' said Larry Silverstein, president of the company. ''Sure enough, Salomon had that need.[...]

[...] MORE than 375 tons of steel - requiring 12 miles of welding - will be installed to reinforce floors for Salomon's extra equipment. Sections of the existing stone facade and steel bracing will be temporarily removed so that workers using a roof crane can hoist nine diesel generators onto the tower's fifth floor, where they will become the core of a back-up power station.[...]



Jowenko, a Dutch guy who does demolition for a living, and has a demolition company attests that the building has been demolished:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k3DRhwRN06I

When called on the phone, Jowenko reaffirms his statement:

http://www.pumpitout.com/audio/danny_jowenko_022207.mp3

 

[fskimospy]

Stop. Just stop. You're making an ass out of yourself. That video is retarded. Now there are numerous snipers shooting at JFK too? Ugh. Use your head. Eyewitness testimony is legendary in its unreliability.

So unexplained noises and a bunch of people making unfounded assertions make for a massive conspiracy involving hundreds of people? Use your brain guys. If you ever show a scrap of real evidence to support your insane claims, then I will give you a fair hearing. So far you've shown nothing but unfounded assertions and circumstantial evidence. No court in the land would buy your crap. (by the way, already ahead of you... don't link that loose change video. it's been completely owned and discredited.)

 

[imported_Aelius]

Originally posted by: Rainsford

Originally posted by: Aelius
This is what I'm talking about. I'm claimed to have no critical thinking yet here we have claims that perhaps they made a mistake in reporting which building fell down. They repeat over and over that it is the Salomon Brothers Building. Not just her mind you but the anchor as well, long before she comes on the air.

All of this is dismissed and you people wrongly point to the woman as having perhaps made a mistake.

Obviously you people either did not watch the longer videos available or simply do not have 2 brain cells to rub togeather.

Neither does anyone else here think for one second about the CNN broadcast that mentioned the same thing 65 minutes before the building fell.

A lot of you mention thinking or critical thinking. For that to occur you would actually first need to take into account the information before dismissing it out of hand. Obviously that was just too difficult for any of you.

Having debated with some of you before I'm not shocked.

You want some critical thinking? Well here ya go, Chief...try to keep up.

Say you're running a huge government conspiracy to precipitate a war, a conspiracy involving thousands of people, and of such scale that if anyone every pins it on you, it will be a race between the mob and the courts as to who gets to lynch you first.

I'm going to stop you right there since you are starting a train wreck and you think I'm going to hop on board. Bad idea on your part.

Ask yourself how many people involved in the Gulf of Tonkin went to prison or were mobed to death. How many of those responsible for the overthrow and murder of countless people in not just IRAN but elsewhere have gone to prison or were mobed to death.

*crickets*

You say you need a huge government conspiracy. That's you saying it, not me. Let me give you a very short education in False Flag operations of the past. You need not go farther than Gulf of Tonkin, or the overthrow of Democraticaly elected Iranian Prime Minister Mohammad Mossadegh by the CIA. A lot of people died as a result. In the case of Vietnam I don't have to tell you how many.

The difference is that this took place at home and nobody wants to think that such thing can happen here. Makes you feel safe and smart. It's hard to think of on self as stupid in having swallowed the line of BS being fed to them. I was one of you on 9/11 and I was thinking of going back into the military as a result. This is where we are separated.

You put BS in my mouth and speak as if I said it then shoot it down. That's the very definition of a strawman. Don't feel so bad, you aren't the only person doing it here. Back to my point.

In the case of Vietnam it was later revealed by the CIA themselves that they did it, but people refused to listen to those who pointed out faults in the story. In the case of IRAN the primary conspirator spilled the beans and gloated about how they pulled it off while on his death bed.

Out of those two and 9/11 which do you think has more coverage and more leakage prior to the insiders actually leaking it? 9/11 for obvious reasons.

So I ask again did anyone involved go to prison or get mobed to death? These people have the gul to show you all this evidence and what does the American public do? They yawn.

So how do those Freedom Fries taste so far?

 

[imported_Aelius]

Originally posted by: JD50
Well said Rainsford.

On a side note, you conspiracy theorists are nuts, but at least you can bring together just about everybody on this board and we can all agree on something.

On the board who wishes to post. Perhaps.

42% of Americans think you people and the Government are full of it. Another 10% don't know what to make of it.

The other 48% is you people.

The vast majority of Americans want a new investigation (66%)

You can look up the Zogby Polls if you wish.

CNN's own online poll with tens of thousands of responses indicated 89% think there is a Cover-up.

So yeah just about everyone on this board who responded thinks like you.

Thankfully you people don't represent the majority of America.

On a personal note. I just wanted to add that from my own experience the majority of middle class or upper middle class people think as you guys do and most of them don't even want to think of it. The exact opposite is true of people with low incomes. I'm not saying this is the case everywhere, it's just my own observations of everybody I know in RL.