**UPDATED** Official 2014-15 NFL Conference Championship Sunday** Seahawks/Pats WIN!

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manimal

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which team of the final 4 do you think had the least talented roster?


The colts imo. Lets not forget that the colts had some serious issues on defense this year that miraculously didnt get attacked much during the regular season. The colts front 7 was the weakest of the playoffteams altogether and there was only so much Luck could do.


Colts need a new DC. Pagano did a good job with what he had imo. They clearly lost to the better team.
 

manimal

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I think Bruce Arians would've had them competitive at least. Pagano looked really bad in this game.

what could he do? They had six and seven in the box and played man outside a ton and they still got run on.


They just didnt win enough 1 on 1 matchups in the trenches and the DC didnt disguise enough.


I seriously dont know why teams dont show blitz more when going into cover 3. Packers used it to good effect early in that game.
 

IndyColtsFan

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what could he do? They had six and seven in the box and played man outside a ton and they still got run on.


They just didnt win enough 1 on 1 matchups in the trenches and the DC didnt disguise enough.


I seriously dont know why teams dont show blitz more when going into cover 3. Packers used it to good effect early in that game.

The Patriots' gameplan was no mystery. Everyone in the world knew exactly what they were going to do and once again, the Colts were run over like they weren't there. Best comment from Peter King on the lack of planning:

Peter King said:
Greg Manusky and Chuck Pagano, knowing the Patriots were three for three on the tackle-eligible plays last week, and when it was announced in the stadium Sunday, somehow, some way not having their team cover eligible tackle Nate Solder, who scored a touchdown on a pass from Tom Brady. I’ll live to be 103 and not understand that bit of coaching.

I said it before the playoffs and I'll say it again: Grigson, Pagano, and Manusky are not the answer. I thought maybe they could get by with Pagano if they got a better GM and DC, but he has been thoroughly outcoached every single time he has played the Patriots with no improvement in sight.

At least Grigson appears ready to ditch Richardson and Pagano has put Werner on notice.
 
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Mai72

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Tom Brady would be the best quarterback ever if he only won against the Giants.

He's still in the top 5. Behind Staubach, White, Aiken, and Romo.

 
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spacejamz

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I could


After seeing them-and posting here-them not score 7 points when in the red zone twice early would come back to bite them and it did.

You gotta go for the jugular and kill the wounded or they can come back and bite you.


Pack should have been up 30 points by the half. They should have also gone for it

All of the people whining about the Packers not going for it on 4th down are the same ones who would be criticizing them if they had failed to get a TD on 4th down and lost by 1 or 2 points...just can't make all of the people happy all of the time...

And I'm not a Packer fan....
 

spacejamz

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I don't understand Deflate-gate... don't the refs control which balls are in play? There was even a stoppage when the kickoff ball was swapped out by the refs for a game ball (the kick off ball are not 'roughed up' as much so they are slicker than the actual game balls)...Did they only give the deflated balls to NE and not Indy?
 

smackababy

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I don't understand Deflate-gate... don't the refs control which balls are in play? There was even a stoppage when the kickoff ball was swapped out by the refs for a game ball (the kick off ball are not 'roughed up' as much so they are slicker than the actual game balls)...Did they only give the deflated balls to NE and not Indy?

Deflating the balls makes them easier to throw and catch. They also make it easier to aim kicks, but sacrifice distance. Since the balls are only inspected pre game by the refs and then divided up (12 to each team), NE would have to alter their balls during play. Now, the refs do handle the balls, so if there was a serious discrepancy, it would seem likely they would notice. However, they can't notice LBs hanging on Gronk as he runs routes, so who knows.
 

spacejamz

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Deflating the balls makes them easier to throw and catch. They also make it easier to aim kicks, but sacrifice distance. Since the balls are only inspected pre game by the refs and then divided up (12 to each team), NE would have to alter their balls during play. Now, the refs do handle the balls, so if there was a serious discrepancy, it would seem likely they would notice. However, they can't notice LBs hanging on Gronk as he runs routes, so who knows.

12 for each team just seems asinine...why not 24 for the whole game so this doesn't even become an issue...unless I am just missing something...
 

RPD

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Ugh, the two teams I hate the most in the SB. I think I'll plan a trip to the cabin that weekend, cuz unless both teams both sustain horrible career ending injuries during the game... No way I want to watch.
 

manimal

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Deflating the balls makes them easier to throw and catch. They also make it easier to aim kicks, but sacrifice distance. Since the balls are only inspected pre game by the refs and then divided up (12 to each team), NE would have to alter their balls during play. Now, the refs do handle the balls, so if there was a serious discrepancy, it would seem likely they would notice. However, they can't notice LBs hanging on Gronk as he runs routes, so who knows.

I always tell the ladies that deflating my balls will make them easier to catch.





Raoila cut. I think this bodes badly for Suh. Wouldnt it be pretty easy to bombard them with poo if they sign him long term after making a stand on character?
 

RPD

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I used to hate GB back when the 49er's would constantly lose to them in the play offs, but the last 5 years my hate has waned... But after watching them quit and give that game away to Seattle I hate them.
 

manimal

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I used to hate GB back when the 49er's would constantly lose to them in the play offs, but the last 5 years my hate has waned... But after watching them quit and give that game away to Seattle I hate them.

pack will always be dead to me after what they did to the punky QB
 

RampantAndroid

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that is surprising. Bellichick isn't an idiot. He will review tape and shut down Wilson the same way that GB did--only he will also play to win for 4 quarters.

He will go for it on 4th and inches inside the 5 (as evidenced in this game...and even at home)

I think Wilson shut himself down. From a friend who was in the Clink, the interceptions were from: two off a WR in the rain (bad ball handling) and despite heavy winds, Wilson kept going for long plays instead of throwing shorter passes less likely to be screwed up in the wind. It isn't an excuse for Wilson's poor calls here, but on the flip side, I don't think it was the Packers D being that amazing. The Seahawks offense TRIED to lose that game for the first 3 quarters. No, the first 55 minutes.

The the Packers were held to the 16-0 lead speaks volumes about the Seahawk's D, imo.
 

BUTCH1

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Ugh, the two teams I hate the most in the SB. I think I'll plan a trip to the cabin that weekend, cuz unless both teams both sustain horrible career ending injuries during the game... No way I want to watch.

No matter how much I hated a team I could never wish "horrible career ending injuries" on anyone, you are the definition of a punk asshole if ever there was one.
 

Arkaign

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No matter how much I hated a team I could never wish "horrible career ending injuries" on anyone, you are the definition of a punk asshole if ever there was one.

Just check the comments section of ANY NFL.com or BleacherReport story. 99% of the fan postings there are made by utter and complete assholes. It's kind of amazing honestly.

Typical post :

"You are an idiot, Team X is the best because blah blah blah, Team Y is shit and all the fans are shit and the only reason team X ever loses is because they got screwed by Z, player A is a choke artist and a *insert racial and/or homophobic expletive(s) here*.""

Best to just ignore virtually all so-called sports fans, as regardless of team they seem to be dominated by the kind of people that make posts like my example above.
 

zinfamous

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I think Wilson shut himself down. From a friend who was in the Clink, the interceptions were from: two off a WR in the rain (bad ball handling) and despite heavy winds, Wilson kept going for long plays instead of throwing shorter passes less likely to be screwed up in the wind. It isn't an excuse for Wilson's poor calls here, but on the flip side, I don't think it was the Packers D being that amazing. The Seahawks offense TRIED to lose that game for the first 3 quarters. No, the first 55 minutes.

The the Packers were held to the 16-0 lead speaks volumes about the Seahawk's D, imo.

I think Wilson did play awful, but the Packers were also putting great pressure on him and forcing long, uncomfortable throws, which really isn't his zone. I think he was going for those because the short game was tied up.

I agree that two of those passes weren't really his fault--the deflections; except the first one was off of a bad throw by Wilson. should have been caught, but it was a tough catch.

That being said, I was very happy to see him not give up on trying to make the big play when things were still going so far south. The Pack was swarming, and he didn't have many options. Better to try and make something happen than eat about half a dozen sacs.

I'm not saying this is what he was thinking, but those deep INTs weren't really a bad thing for Seattle, considering how amazing the D played. Maybe it gave Wilson some confidence to force those bad plays. Everyone knows he's one of the smartest people out there, so it has to be something more than him just making poor decision after poor decision. Maybe there was some confidence in him from what the other guys were doing. Maybe that's also what Carroll and the Defensive coaches/squad were telling him throughout. He really never looked shell-shocked--he just played awful for 3.8 quarters. That's a huge difference, imo.
 
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dainthomas

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All the talk about how handsy the Seahawk DBs are, and then Kearse scores on a play where the Packers DB is literally climbing over his back and has his fingers in his facemask for good measure.
 
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