Hmmmm..the price of the NEC is very intimidating....but I would much rather spend the extra money and get the Pioneer DVR-106. Pioneer drives rock!
Wrong.Originally posted by: dxkj
RightHere = owner of a record company or movie production studio?
DVD decryption programs are illegal. If the tools don't exist, it's harder for people to do those activities you mentioned.The reason why these laws are in place, is to stop the people who would do these things for ILLEGAL purposes, such as selling, copying what they dont own, etc.
Nero has a license agreement. You'd have to read it to know if this is allowed. Generally, most computer software licenses allow you to make one (and only one) backup copy. I'm talking about people making illegal copies of music/movies.These laws ARE wrong because they dont have a clause to allow backup for personal use. I had a Nero cd for my cd burner. I lost it when I moved, someone probably threw it in the garbage. Is it illegal for me to still have the program on my computer? Installing it onto my computer is essentially making a copy of it.... What if it were an easy installation, just copied the files onto my computer. If I now burnt those files onto a CD would that be illegal? I lost my cd, thrown out, but at my own expense I recreated the CD. Now I am back at stage 1.
I agree. I have no problems with people backing up data they own the rights to.List laws, spout rhetoric, no one is going to go after people doing backups for the right reason, only those doing backups for the wrong reasons.
Glad you got my point. "Backing up" a $20 bill is indeed illegal. Making a digital copy of a DVD using a DVD decryption program is also illegal (violates DMCA/copyright law).Originally posted by: KAMAZON
You are so freaking lame Right Here. "Backing up a $20 bill" is COUNTERFEIT!!! You dumb ass. Backing up a DVD you bought so you don't scratch it is not. Are you REALLY this stupid or are you just pretending?Think of it this way: what happens if you try to "back up" a $20 bill and then use your backup copy? It's the same thing as "backing up" DVD's. You don't have the rights to do this. And even if you did have the rights to make a pure digital copy, you don't have the rights to use the dvd decryption software. If you don't like the law, work to change it...don't just steal.
I'm not hijacking anything. I'm responding to insults/posts pointed at me.Originally posted by: anazoal
RightHere, your point has been duly noted (several times), so please take your diatribe on piracy/federal law/ethics/DMCA to the off topic forum and stop hijacking this thread.
I've got yer testicular fortitude...RIGHT HERE!!! (Great quote from Family Guy btw! )Originally posted by: Snatchface
Hey Righthere, come play with the big boys - if you have the testicular fortitude - and stop crapping up this thread. Righthere numbnuts.
Originally posted by: RightHere
I give a crap. This piracy crap is PREVENTING technology from being released. All of the DTCP stuff has made purchasing an HDTV a very complicated adventure. This year you need to look for DVI connectors. Last year you needed 1394. Who knows what you'll need next year. Your statistics on the DMCA are way off. This is something *for* copyright owners only, which really means that it is intended for those multi-millionaire types.Originally posted by: Snatchface
Please point me to the place where someone gives a crap. There is law, there is ethics, and then there is the DMCA, which 99.9% of non-multi millionaires who own record labels or movie studios agree does not codifiy US ethics and exists only to squeeze pennies out of average people to make the rich richer. I, like most people here, will spend my life defying assonine, punative laws purchased by special interest groups that forbid crazy $hit like backing up your own, legally purchased media.
Think of it this way: what happens if you try to "back up" a $20 bill and then use your backup copy? It's the same thing as "backing up" DVD's. You don't have the rights to do this. And even if you did have the rights to make a pure digital copy, you don't have the rights to use the dvd decryption software. If you don't like the law, work to change it...don't just steal.
And this post is different how?Originally posted by: annihilator
OH MY GOD. Why am I even still reading this thread? Wish the mods would intervene...you guys have taken a perfectly good hotdeals thread and turned it into a total waste of my time.
Originally posted by: RightHere
And this post is different how?Originally posted by: annihilator
OH MY GOD. Why am I even still reading this thread? Wish the mods would intervene...you guys have taken a perfectly good hotdeals thread and turned it into a total waste of my time.
Another helpful idiot...Originally posted by: gwlam12
Originally posted by: RightHere
And this post is different how?Originally posted by: annihilator
OH MY GOD. Why am I even still reading this thread? Wish the mods would intervene...you guys have taken a perfectly good hotdeals thread and turned it into a total waste of my time.
Other people have different needs as far as multi format. If you're burning DVDs to watch in a player, the DVD wars mean that lots of players don't like the +R format, unfortunately. This issue compounded if you're making DVDs for friends.Originally posted by: BobSnob
Although +/- compatibility is nice, it isn't really useful. The media is priced about the same and once burned can be read by most DVD drives irrespective of the format. If I was looking for a drive now I'd want +R/RW and HD-Burn. If I got -R/RW too, then all the better. In this respect the Optorite drives have my vote.
Also in that threadAs long as you understand the pros and cons of this model, I'd say this is a good buy. This is basically a +R/W burner with -R/W function, and its official firmware is notorious for not burning most cheap -R discs up to 4X. If you only buy quality (meaning expensive) brands of DVD-R discs or mainly burn +R discs, then this a pretty good choice. There is plenty discussion of this model at the firmware page website and hacked firmwares are available to improve the -R writing performance. Otherwise, consider other brands of dual format, such as Pioneer or Optorite. Pioneer is the only brand which seems to burn all brands of DVD-R discs up to 4X.
Others mention DiscJuggler and Alcohol 120% as working, also.I've used Nero 5.5.10.42, Clone DVD, DVD Decrypter, DVD shrink 2.3 and Easy CD 6 (came with drive) without problems with this drive, on Windows XP Pro.
I must have bought and worn out about a zillion Pink Floyd DSM LP albums before it became available on CD.Think of it this way: what happens if you try to "back up" a $20 bill and then use your backup copy? It's the same thing as "backing up" DVD's. You don't have the rights to do this. And even if you did have the rights to make a pure digital copy, you don't have the rights to use the dvd decryption software. If you don't like the law, work to change it...don't just steal.