Originally posted by: Queasy
Sony says PS3 sales up 135% since price drop.
So...It finally caught up to the 360 sales?
Originally posted by: Queasy
Sony says PS3 sales up 135% since price drop.
Originally posted by: Game Boy
In case anyone's realised, these stats mean nothing while Microsoft and Sony lose vast amounts of money each quarter in their gaming divisions.
Nintendo's the only current profitable console hardware company.
Should we not count any copies of Guitar Hero bundled with the guitar?Originally posted by: blurredvision
EDIT: Just wanted to add that I don't think Wii Play should even be on that list. It's a freaking controller with mini-games designed to showcase what the Wii can do, nothing more, nothing less.
Originally posted by: jpeyton
Should we not count any copies of Guitar Hero bundled with the guitar?Originally posted by: blurredvision
EDIT: Just wanted to add that I don't think Wii Play should even be on that list. It's a freaking controller with mini-games designed to showcase what the Wii can do, nothing more, nothing less.
Just because they are mini-games does not discount them from being on a sales chart.
Originally posted by: Game Boy
In case anyone's realised, these stats mean nothing while Microsoft and Sony lose vast amounts of money each quarter in their gaming divisions.
Nintendo's the only current profitable console hardware company.
I guess NPD should make a "top-selling games that don't suck according to Thraxen" list.Originally posted by: Thraxen
Yeah, but in the case of Wii Play the game pretty much sucks.
Originally posted by: jpeyton
I guess NPD should make a "top-selling games that don't suck according to Thraxen" list.Originally posted by: Thraxen
Yeah, but in the case of Wii Play the game pretty much sucks.
You're quite wrong on that point. The industry needs reform, and I guarantee you the next generation will be nothing like the current, or Nintendo will just dominate again.Originally posted by: ObscureCaucasian
By your logic, Sony and Microsoft either launch consoles with out dated technology (like the Wii) or they should wait until they can sell each console and make a profit. The industry doesn't work that way and Sony and Microsoft know it.
You guys crack me up. First it was a 'fad' during the holiday season 2006. Then it was a 'fad' during the beginning of the year. Then it was a 'fad' that would end during the spring of 2007. Then it was a 'fad' that wouldn't last through the summer.Also, the Wii is a fad whether you want to admit it or not. It may be a generation long fad
Originally posted by: jpeyton
You're quite wrong on that point. The industry needs reform, and I guarantee you the next generation will be nothing like the current, or Nintendo will just dominate again.
Originally posted by: jpeyton
Originally posted by: ObscureCaucasian
I guess to be safe, you're going to call it a 'fad' that will last the entire 4-5 year generation? Comical.
Why are you sad? Remember the Playstation 2? Easily the most successful gaming console ever made. It's sold 110+ million units, and is still selling like hotcakes in North America.Originally posted by: Thraxen
Obviously, if they can't figure out a way to turn a profit I can't expect MS/Sony to keep on this path, but that will be a sad day.
And your point is that Nintendo won't be able to innovate yet again? We're less than one year into the current cycle. Nobody predicted what innovations the "Wii/Revolution" would have one year into the Gamecube cycle; I doubt anyone has a clue what Nintendo is working on next.Originally posted by: ObscureCaucasian
You're missing the point. Perhaps fad is not the word I'm looking for, but my main point is that Nintendo will have to come up with some other revolutionary feature for their next console, because just upgrading the graphics won't cut it for their target demographic.
Let's imagine you're correct about this (which I doubt, seeing Nintendo's software sales in Japan and North America). Nintendo's strategy is simply a better one because the casual gaming market is significantly larger than the traditional market, it easily negates the smaller amount of money per capita that casual gamers spend.Nintendo is making money off selling to the casual gaming market which is much larger, but spends considerably less money.
I disagree 100%. I also think the 2 SKU model is a poor one, as most users adopt the higher priced model (albeit at a slower rate). The Playstation 2 was a fantastic system that debuted at $299 (with a single SKU). Sony and Microsoft just need better product design and engineering.Next generation I doubt we'll see any consoles hitting that $600 price point, but I think the $300 price point is one of the past. $400-$500 will be the target for both Sony and Microsoft for a while now.
Originally posted by: jpeyton
Why are you sad? Remember the Playstation 2? Easily the most successful gaming console ever made. It's sold 110+ million units, and is still selling like hotcakes in North America.Originally posted by: Thraxen
Obviously, if they can't figure out a way to turn a profit I can't expect MS/Sony to keep on this path, but that will be a sad day.
Sony managed to debut that system at $299, even with it's groundbreaking graphics and processing units.
Sony needs to be reigned in for their next generation. Give the consumers the absolute best gaming experience for $299, and add "bonus features" if you can.
Gears Of War on an XBOX 360 Core would prove that argument wrong.Originally posted by: Extelleron
$300 is far too low in today's money and with the price of today's technology
Originally posted by: jpeyton
Gears Of War on an XBOX 360 Core would prove that argument wrong.Originally posted by: Extelleron
$300 is far too low in today's money and with the price of today's technology
The PS2 launched in 2000; at $299, it was sold at a loss for Sony.Originally posted by: Extelleron
That $299.99 that you paid for a PS2 in 2001 may be worth only around $200~ then.
Originally posted by: Queasy
MS Spins the NPD data
Basically trumping their game attach rate (6.1) and accessory attach rate (3.2) along with the fact that they've sold more software than the PS3 and Wii combined.
Have to see if Nintendo and Sony have released their NPD spins yet.
Originally posted by: Queasy
MS Spins the NPD data
Basically trumping their game attach rate (6.1) and accessory attach rate (3.2) along with the fact that they've sold more software than the PS3 and Wii combined.
Have to see if Nintendo and Sony have released their NPD spins yet.
Originally posted by: ObscureCaucasian
Originally posted by: Queasy
MS Spins the NPD data
Basically trumping their game attach rate (6.1) and accessory attach rate (3.2) along with the fact that they've sold more software than the PS3 and Wii combined.
Have to see if Nintendo and Sony have released their NPD spins yet.
I don't understand one thing. They say the have a 6.1 attach rate, yet they say they've only sold 20.1 million games (with 11.6 million consoles). Does that mean that MGS has sold 20.1 million games alone?
Originally posted by: jpeyton
So? In one week after the price drop, what did you expect? Sales to jump 1 million units or something?Originally posted by: MikeyLSU
the hardware chart shows sales through 7/15/07
I was out shopping at B&M stores yesterday; the display cases were still full of PS3s. The $100 price drop caused a small spike, not a big one.