upgrade advice... fx or x6

[mrcool63]

i want to upgrade from a phenom II 925. i am in a dilemma whether to choose a 1100t or fx 8120. the 1100t is supposed to be on par with 2600k and 980x when oc'd to 4+ghz..

uses primarily are video encoding and adobe suite(photoshop,premiere, after effects)

in between i will be using photoshop, combustion and other apps which are majorly single threaded as of now.. along with that will be using sound forge for audio editing sometimes....
not to mention gaming once in a while(rarely).. so as you can see it is a mix of single and multi threaded
workout
help guys..
mobo- m5a97 pro
psu- s12ii 620..

 

[RavenSEAL]

Grab your self an X6 while they're still around...

 

[mrcool63]

but many are pointing me to reviews showing 8120 trumping 1100t

 

[dma0991]

Your setup seems relatively new and I wonder why did you not go with a SB rig from the start when it does exceptionally well with ST and MT workloads. In your current situation, the X6 is the best choice as of now as the FX is barely any better. If you've spotted the 'newer' Phenom II X8 sometime in the future, ignore them as they are merely a rebadged FX with lower stock clockspeed. Get it while stocks last though.

 

[BLaber]

i want to upgrade from a phenom II 925. i am in a dilemma whether to choose a 1100t or fx 8120. the 1100t is supposed to be on par with 2600k and 980x when oc'd to 4+ghz..

uses primarily are video encoding and adobe suite(photoshop,premiere, after effects)

in between i will be using photoshop, combustion and other apps which are majorly single threaded as of now.. along with that will be using sound forge for audio editing sometimes....
not to mention gaming once in a while(rarely).. so as you can see it is a mix of single and multi threaded
workout
help guys..
mobo- m5a97 pro
psu- s12ii 620..

Below results are without Win 7 hotfix patches , we all know Bulldozer single thread performance is not good , check below scores , I think below info should be enough to help you decide what to buy :

photoshop cs5

POV-ray

x264(AVX enabled)

x264 (V3.03)

 

[mrcool63]

^^precisely why i opened this thread.. another conundrum!!! two for 1100t and one for 8120.. the graphs above were the reason for my confusion.. please clear the confusion up

 

[tulx]

I went kind of a middle way. I bought a good AM3+ board (Asus Sabertooth) and a relatively cheap but solid performing CPU - the P II x4 960t (Zosma) and unlocked it to a 6 core.
This is meant as a placeholder till a revised Bulldozer comes out.
It performs perfectly well for now. BF3 uses all 6 cores to about 80%.

 

[dma0991]

^^precisely why i opened this thread.. another conundrum!!! two for 1100t and one for 8120.. the graphs above were the reason for my confusion.. please clear the confusion up

Most of the test results that BLaber posted are the FX-8150, not the FX-8120 with 500MHz less at stock compared to the top range. The FX-8120 might be better in most MT tests but your workload consists of a mix of ST and MT, so the 1100T with better ST performance would still be a better pick.

 

[BLaber]

^^precisely why i opened this thread.. another conundrum!!! two for 1100t and one for 8120.. the graphs above were the reason for my confusion.. please clear the confusion up

If you dont mind single thread performance & power consumption of Bulldozer, go with Fx8200 because its more future proof in terms of instruction set supported e.t.c & will only get better as software optimization in terms of Win 8 , newer Adobe product releases come along which will make use of newer instruction sets (i.e see avx enabled bench scores) e.t.c

Polyzp has done some benchmarking with new Win 7 patch with Fx @ 4.8Ghz & Thuban @ 4.1Ghz , [Source : http://forums.anandtech.com/showthread.php?t=2217355 ]

Or Just get X6 for now & upgrade to Piledriver which will have better number across the board compared to bulldozer. ( Dont ask for proof | Right now its all speculation ).

 

[Rvenger]

i want to upgrade from a phenom II 925. i am in a dilemma whether to choose a 1100t or fx 8120. the 1100t is supposed to be on par with 2600k and 980x when oc'd to 4+ghz..

uses primarily are video encoding and adobe suite(photoshop,premiere, after effects)

in between i will be using photoshop, combustion and other apps which are majorly single threaded as of now.. along with that will be using sound forge for audio editing sometimes....
not to mention gaming once in a while(rarely).. so as you can see it is a mix of single and multi threaded
workout
help guys..
mobo- m5a97 pro
psu- s12ii 620..

I would wait until Piledriver if your current setup isn't holding you back.

 

[Magic Carpet]

I'd get a used x6 off eBay. If done right, you can snatch a pretty good deal there.

 

[AtenRa]

Get the FX8120, just raise the multiplier to 18 from 16 and you have a nice FX8150

 

[mrcool63]

Most of the test results that BLaber posted are the FX-8150, not the FX-8120 with 500MHz less at stock compared to the top range. The FX-8120 might be better in most MT tests but your workload consists of a mix of ST and MT, so the 1100T with better ST performance would still be a better pick.

the 8120 can be easily oc'd to 4.2-4.4 on stock volts right.. so that wont be a problem

If you dont mind single thread performance & power consumption of Bulldozer, go with Fx8200 because its more future proof in terms of instruction set supported e.t.c & will only get better as software optimization in terms of Win 8 , newer Adobe product releases come along which will make use of newer instruction sets (i.e see avx enabled bench scores) e.t.c

Polyzp has done some benchmarking with new Win 7 patch with Fx @ 4.8Ghz & Thuban @ 4.1Ghz ,

Or Just get X6 for now & upgrade to Piledriver which will have better number across the board compared to bulldozer. ( Dont ask for proof | Right now its all speculation ).

piledriver uses a different socket right.. that would imply a complete makeover.. i have a 2600k and a p8z68-v pro for my primary rig.. this is for my secondary rig at a different city i often stay at

I would wait until Piledriver if your current setup isn't holding you back.

The rig per se is not bottlenecked but becoming rather slow.. thats why was looking for an upgrade

 

[ed29a]

piledriver uses a different socket right..

No.

 

[mrcool63]

No.

sweet.. so one more question is out there.. 1100t or 8120 or piledriver

 

[Magic Carpet]

lol... Each of the cpus listed above has its pros and cons. You should rather question your actual needs and how much your ready to pay. Otherwise, I'll just say, get a 2600k ;-p

 

[BLaber]

sweet.. so one more question is out there.. 1100t or 8120 or piledriver

No piledriver option in poll ?

 

[mrcool63]

lol... Each of the cpus listed above has its pros and cons. You should rather question your actual needs and how much your ready to pay. Otherwise, I'll just say, get a 2600k ;-p

as i already mentioned i have a 2600k for my primary rig.. this is my secondary system.. and i have bombarded myself with the pros and cons and so i am asking you guys now

 

[mrcool63]

No piledriver option in poll ?

well you guys decide very late.. it does not allow me to modify the options

sorry double post

 

[skipsneeky2]

The 8120 pulls plenty of power at full load if that bothers you who knows.

I would jump on a 1100t and oc it to 4ghz which isn't hard i am a novice amd ocer at best and i was able to do it rather easily and sit it out till piledriver is here bulldozer is to much of a gamble right now for my liking.

 

[dma0991]

the 8120 can be easily oc'd to 4.2-4.4 on stock volts right.. so that wont be a problem

By stock volts you mean higher than necessary voltage needed like Llano. Definitely possible to OC it till 4.2-4.4 but it would require a beefy cooler and connections with the power company according to HWC.

 

[Magic Carpet]

as i already mentioned i have a 2600k for my primary rig.. this is my secondary system.. and i have bombarded myself with the pros and cons and so i am asking you guys now

well, if you ask me... I'd just get the cheapest option. No point to invest in these things unless you require extra performance. The cheapest option in your case would be to sit out and wait another day. Speculation isn't my thing.

 

[mrcool63]

By stock volts you mean higher than necessary voltage needed like Llano. Definitely possible to OC it till 4.2-4.4 but it would require a beefy cooler and connections with the power company according to HWC.

holy crap... 800w??? when 8150 and 460gtx are stressed together??? i have a s12ii 620.. it can output a max 700w if necessary but thats way way beyond normal limits... for 4.6ghz that much draw is ridiculous!!! i have a hyper 212+ for cooling purposes

i am going to pair it with a sapphire 6950 2gb card... how much can the 1100t hit on stock volts? I mean less than 1.35v

 

[Vesku]

From my experience stock volts will vary a bit based on the chip, the 1090T I have defaults to 1.45 (I haven't gotten any Phenom II chips I would consider cherry). Average chip should be able to hit 3.6ish GHz at stock and 3.8GHz with some extra voltage, mine already has a high default and was able to hit 3.8GHz without any extra. The amount of extra voltage you will need for 4GHz is very luck of the draw, but with a Hyper 212+ I'd settle for 3.8GHz at a moderate voltage.

 

[monkeydelmagico]

I got slightly higher results as Vesku when tinkering with a 1090t. The 1100 should be good for 3.7 at stock voltage. Be aware that thubans draw quite a bit of juice under load too. It's good to check your board against known problem list here: http://www.overclock.net/t/946407/amd-motherboard-vrm-information-list
Your board should be good to go.....Asus m5a97 pro

Combine an OC'd 1100t with a 6950 (also oc'd??) and you are probably getting close to what your PSU can handle.