Upgrade to a GTX Titan X (Pascal) or GTX 1080 (Aftermarket)

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tential

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1080 is a fine value, I doubt its price will come down in the near-term. Titan XP might prove a poor value if 1080 Ti is very close for much less money, but we don't really know what it's going to be priced at or how extensively it will be cut down relative to the XP.
Hey I'm open minded.
Here lets tag team this one I got the graph.



Go get it OP.
 

Bacon1

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What?

http://www.newegg.com/Product/ProductList.aspx?Submit=ENE&N=-1&IsNodeId=1&Description=gtx 1080&bop=And&Order=PRICE&PageSize=36

Gigabyte GTX 1080 for $569.99, no rebate required. There are several other models (albeit cheap-o blowers) at sub-$600.

These are good deals.

Thats a 10% off sale after Rebate? Like I said, nothing super good right now. 480 for $160 is more money off while already much cheaper. Thats a super deal at over 20% off. A 1070 for under $340? Thats a good deal. Under 10% off original MSRP for a 7 month old GPU? Not really.

OP still hasn't answered why he needs the upgrade. If it's 1080p -> 4k or something so its impossible to tell him which is the better buy.
 

Dave3000

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I want to upgrade because I want to run the latest games at least at 1080p maxed out. My 780Ti is too limiting in the latest games. Right now I game at 1080p. I might buy a 4k TV later this year or even a 4k monitor later this year and if I do I just don't want to end up with a card that can't handle 4k in the latest games and have to upgrade again. The Gigabyte one looks nice and has a good price but the Asus ROG Strix is clocked higher and has 2 power connectors. I can hold off on the CPU upgrade for another month and order the GTX Titan (Pascal) in a few days. About a GTX 1080Ti coming out, I don't know about that, it's just a rumor article on the internet saying there might be one coming out, and someone told me to wait for the 1080Ti, I guess that person really meant to say is wait for the next series of Nvidia cards to come out.
 

Newbian

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I want to upgrade because I want to run the latest games at least at 1080p maxed out. My 780Ti is too limiting in the latest games. Right now I game at 1080p. I might buy a 4k TV later this year or even a 4k monitor later this year and if I do I just don't want to end up with a card that can't handle 4k in the latest games and have to upgrade again. The Gigabyte one looks nice and has a good price but the Asus ROG Strix is clocked higher and has 2 power connectors. I can hold off on the CPU upgrade for another month and order the GTX Titan (Pascal) in a few days. About a GTX 1080Ti coming out, I don't know about that, it's just a rumor article on the internet saying there might be one coming out, and someone told me to wait for the 1080Ti, I guess that person really meant to say is wait for the next series of Nvidia cards to come out.
For 1080p you will be fine with a gtx 1070 for awhile to go.

The problem with going for 4k as I said earlier is you will want the titan and if you plan on going that way later this year then save some money up and wait for vega / 1080 ti plus there are newer monitors coming out that could help reduce the prices of the current monitors.

Going for a new gpu, cpu and a monitor right now is horrible timing as the newer stuff coming out now and in the next few months will cause some regrets if vega proves to be worth it or the price drops on all 3 products from what is coming out.

You can get a gtx 1070 for $360ish easy these days with a halfway decent sale and can always resell it when you do upgrade to 4k if ever.
 

wanderica

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From someone who decided on a 1070 for 1440p:

Anything 1070 and up would be more than enough for 1080p for quite some time to come, so price is the only concern between the 1080 and Titan XP for that resolution. 4k will most certainly favor the Titan XP. However, since you won't be upgrading your monitor for some time, consider grabbing a 1070 and revisiting the GPU upgrade when that time comes. Reselling that 1070 in 6 months could recoup some of the cost. Lots of great advice in this thread, but if it were my decision to make, I would certainly want to see Vega and the (possible) 1080 Ti before dropping 1200 smackeroos on a GPU that I may not need.

I'll admit too that I haven't been keeping up with 4k offerings releasing this year, but when last I researched, you could get a 4k monitor with Freesync but not with GSync. After playing on a monitor with GSync, I'll never game again without one of the 2. Having an AMD card that can take advantage of Freesync on a 4k monitor running 60 FPS most of the time might be a pretty sweet gaming experience. Just food for thought.
 

casiofx

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If I'm OP, for 1080p i would just get RX480 or 1060 6GB.
4930K is pretty fast cpu when overclocked, i would not get the 7700k.

Buy faster GPU when using better monitor.
 

SteveGrabowski

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A 1080 or Titan XP would be nuts for 1080p unless you have a 144 Hz monitor, and even then I'd probably still go for a 1070. Buying now because you want to buy a 4k monitor in say 6 months is crazy too, since there will surely be a flood of used 1080s on the market once the 1080 Ti (or maybe they call it 1180) launches. Which I imagine will be around mid May or early June since Nvidia usually seems to release cards around Computex.
 

Carfax83

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Here is my system:

i7-4930k
32GB DDR3-1600
GTX 780 Ti
2TB SSD

I recently returned a GTX 1080 Founder's Edition and got a refund on it due to an issue I was having with it and no more were in stock. In a few days I will be able to afford a GTX Titan X. I prefer single card configurations over SLI. However, if I get a GTX Titan X in a few days from now, I won't be able to afford upgrade to a i7-7700k, new motherboard, DDR4 until next month. Am I better off upgrading to a GTX Titan X in a few days from now and next month upgrade to a i7-7700k system? Am I better of buying a GTX 1080 (aftermarket) such as an MSI Gaming X or and Asus Strix OC and upgrading to a i7-7700k system this month?

I would definitely advise against getting a Titan XP. It's overkill for 1080p, and your CPU would bottleneck it anyway, even after overclocking. Plus the x79 platform whilst still capable is getting long in the tooth. What I would do in your case is either get a GTX 1080 and then use the rest of the money towards getting a modern system like the 7700K, or more likely, get a GTX 1070 instead of the GTX 1080 which would save you even more money.

Whilst not as powerful as the GTX 1080, the 1070 is still an awesome GPU, especially for 1080p. In fact, both GPUs are probably overkill for 1080p. I would only advise getting a GTX 1080 over a 1070 if you were gaming at 1440p, where the extra power of the GTX 1080 would be felt more readily.

The last option of course is to play the waiting game and wait for the 1080 Ti, which will affect the price of the other GPUs in NVidia's lineup. This is a personal decision that you yourself will have to make, as it depends on how badly you want to upgrade..
 

littleg

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If you're living paycheck to paycheck and relying on credit cards then maybe hold off for a few months until Vega/1080ti news comes around. Stick your money in the savings account each month until then and you'll likely get a better upgrade and still have an empty credit card for emergencies.
 

Carfax83

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OP, if you have to ask others how to spend your money then I suggest you not spend it. If you need or want the highest performance available and aren't concerned with the money then a 1080 or TXP are just fine. This board is a $/FPS board and they don't take into consideration someone wanting high performance and price be damned.

Whilst I agree with your general sentiment about this particular forum being more geared towards price/performance than raw performance, I think it's prudent to advise against the Titan XP. Much of the power would be wasted on a X79 system, even after overclocking. Updating the rest of his system is crucial if he wants to maximize performance for these modern GPUs.
 

DearLord

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...I'm a bit tired of people insisting that x card is "too powerful" for 1080p gaming. I for one have a 1070 and use DSR whenever possible. The reason is that it works great for, among other things, temporal aliasing. The image produced, while 1080p, is just vastly and obviously superior to a non-downsampled image. But it only really eliminates the temporal aliasing when downsampling from 4k. Thus even though I "only" have a 1080p display, I'll always want the best card I can afford. Also, to the OP, please note that if you were to get a titan xp, you really do need to put it under water in order to get the performance out of it that it is capable of.
 
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Thinker_145

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This boards obsession with "waiting" is borderline annoying. We don't know jack about anything but people must "wait". I am sure stuff like this would be highly discouraging for someone new to PC gaming and yes I know the OP isn't new.

The GPU is the component which experiences highest depreciation no matter what you buy and when you buy. I would understand the obsession with waiting for a component that has the potential to last 5+ years but with a GPU it makes no sense.

Waiting only makes sense when we have an announced date for an upcoming GPU release.
 

littleg

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Waiting kind of makes sense too when there's a good chance of new cards being announced in a relatively short time frame and you won't need to borrow money to pay for it.
 

Dave3000

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A GTX 1070 is not enough of an upgrade for me, coming from a 780Ti. Also the 1070 is much slower than a Titan XP, even though the 1070 is still a great GPU. A GTX 1080 is the minimum I would go, coming from a 780Ti. At 1080p I still want to have 4x MSAA and 16x AF, and 60 fps in the latest games and games coming out for the next 2 years. Maybe I will just go for the GTX 1080 and upgrade the rest of my system as well, rather than getting a Titan XP and delaying to upgrade the rest of my system.
 

Dave3000

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Waiting kind of makes sense too when there's a good chance of new cards being announced in a relatively short time frame and you won't need to borrow money to pay for it.

Purchasing the GTX Titan XP on my credit card does not mean I will not be able to pay my credit card in full the end of the month. If I purchased it before this current billing cycle is over then that would be a problem. If I can pay off my credit card in full at the end of the month then what's the issue?
 

tential

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...I'm a bit tired of people insisting that x card is "too powerful" for 1080p gaming. I for one have a 1070 and use DSR whenever possible. The reason is that it works great for, among other things, temporal aliasing. The image produced, while 1080p, is just vastly and obviously superior to a non-downsampled image. But it only really eliminates the temporal aliasing when downsampling from 4k. Thus even though I "only" have a 1080p display, I'll always want the best card I can afford. Also, to the OP, please note that if you were to get a titan xp, you really do need to put it under water in order to get the performance out of it that it is capable of.
Then your target resolution isn't 1080p... I use a 1080p display or used to but my target resolution has never been 1080p since vsr and dsr are introduced....
 
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tential

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Purchasing the GTX Titan XP on my credit card does not mean I will not be able to pay my credit card in full the end of the month. If I purchased it before this current billing cycle is over then that would be a problem. If I can pay off my credit card in full at the end of the month then what's the issue?
Nothing go ahead and do it. I'm confused though as to why you think a 1080ti won't come out now? Ignore the rumors. The 780ti came out. The 980ti came out. What indicates to you they're stopping this card line from coming up?

There is no reason not to expect a 1080ti.

This would be the same as me suggesting there won't be a midrange card next lineup just because it's not announced and fully detailed now.

If you've got a suggestion for why a 1080ti will not come out please say so. No one will. They just like to cast random doubt to fit their agenda.
 
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zinfamous

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In a few days I will have the money for the Titan X (Pascal). Yes I'm paycheck to paycheck. For me, getting a GTX Titan (Pascal) instead of a GTX 1080 mean saving up one more month, and I got refunded on the GTX 1080 I returned. I just have to wait when my current credit card billing cycle ends which is in a few days from now and make sure the refund on the GTX 1080 posts to my credit card. If I buy right now, instead of waiting a few days when next my credit card billing cycle begins, then I can only afford a GTX 1080.

If you have to wait another month, we might know more about 1080ti or Vega by then. You're probably better off waiting as either of those would certainly be a better buy than the $1200 Titan; or overall prices on current high end cards will possibly drop a bit.

I feel that if you have to save up to buy something like a Titan, you aren't getting your best performance/$ where $ could be spent elsewhere in that system. To me, anyway, those Titan cards are in the YoLo class for consumers that have too much money and no rational need to pick up something like that other than the "want" factor. But, YMMV.
 
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I feel that if you have to save up to buy something like a Titan, you aren't getting your best performance/$ where $ could be spent elsewhere in that system. To me, anyway, those Titan cards are in the YoLo class for consumers that have too much money and no rational need to pick up something like that other than the "want" factor. But, YMMV.

It's a "YOLO" buy for a 1080p gamer, but if you are running 4K, it's pretty much the only card that can handle the latest games at ~60fps consistently.
 

tential

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If you have to wait another month, we might know more about 1080ti or Vega by then. You're probably better off waiting as either of those would certainly be a better buy than the $1200 Titan; or overall prices on current high end cards will possibly drop a bit.

I feel that if you have to save up to buy something like a Titan, you aren't getting your best performance/$ where $ could be spent elsewhere in that system. To me, anyway, those Titan cards are in the YoLo class for consumers that have too much money and no rational need to pick up something like that other than the "want" factor. But, YMMV.
I recommended he purchase his other planned upgrades excuse it gives him 1 month to see more about the 1080ti. I'm not mentioning Vega for a reason. It's a far later release. We know Nvidia could release a 1080ti at any time as they already have it pretty much available in the form of titan xp. The Vega chip only God knows when. I wouldn't wish the waiting I've done on Vega on anyone.

Otherwise, based on tpus latest gpu graphs the 1080 isn't bad it's a much better buy than the 980.
 

Snarf Snarf

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I think the $550 1080 linked earlier on page one is a great deal. Considering that you want to upgrade your platform as well, I think it's worth considering holding off on this whole upgrade until next month.

Ryzen will probably be out at the end of February if the leaks about a pre March 3rd release are correct. Depending on where the final clocks and overall performance of the 8c/16t chip land it might be prudent to not do the 7700k upgrade either right now. You invested into x79 before and have a 6-core chip currently, I wouldn't swap that out for anything with less cores. The trend in the newer AAA titles is showing much better core usage.

That being said, I don't think you should wait for 1080ti or Vega because those releases could be 5 months out. Waiting a single month to see if you can get a brand new platform + GTX 1080 at around ~570-550 for a full rebuild is the better plan.
 

Headfoot

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Titan X is a colossal waste of money when its almost certain a 1080 Ti that is as fast or faster is coming out very soon. For you, 1080p I would just get a 1070 and overclock your CPU. It will be a lot faster with just those two things.
 

tential

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Titan X is a colossal waste of money when its almost certain a 1080 Ti that is as fast or faster is coming out very soon. For you, 1080p I would just get a 1070 and overclock your CPU. It will be a lot faster with just those two things.
Ya I'm not about the titan xp. 1080 isn't a bad choice given how cut-down the 1070 is.

I think op should buy his other stuff first though. Painfully obvious actually
 
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