upgrading my display

slag

Lifer
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Several years ago, I bought a 28 inch display at microcenter. It does 1920x1200, and to me looks fine, but with the r9 390 card I have, I'm wanting to push more pixels and get a higher resolution.

For me, larger is better. I don't mind pwm, some backlight bleed, or whatever. Size and resolution are king for me.

I've found a couple different offerings on ebay, one has been briefly talked about on here from what I read, but wanted opinions..

New CROSSOVER 404K UHD HDMI2.0 40" LED 3840x2160 4K VA Monitor NEW 44K + Remote for $518

or

AMH A399U UHD 39.5" 3840X2160 16:9 4K LED Monitor 60Hz DP1.2 HDMI2.0 Non-Glass for $489

Are they basically the same thing? Does one have an advantage over the other? I ask because I've not kept up with display tech and now find out you can flash firmware on displays, overclock, etc, all things foreign to me on a monitor, but am willing to learn.
 

Puffnstuff

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I noticed that the crossover specifically mentions that it has a va panel and the amh doesn't specify what panel type it has. It appears that neither has an adjustable stand so it really comes down to which set of features best suite your needs. If you get one of them let us know how it works out for you.
 

slag

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I think I'm going to get the crossover. Will update this when i order it. I'm slightly concerned that my desk isn't deep enough to make it work though and my desk isn't against a wall.
 

borderdeal

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U might want to look at the Wasabi Mango UHD420 or the Crossover 434 since both have FreeSync and it is really nice with 4k. The 390 you have will not cut it at 4k.
This is a stand that I will get eventually for my Monitor:

http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0...rue&ref_=ox_sc_act_title_1&smid=A4RWQRCTJ6CYV

About OC the monitor none of the 4k panels can be oc without skipping frames. Also something to consider is the text size. If you are coming from a 28" 1920*1200 then a 40" 4k panel the text is going to be really small compared with the 28". If you good eyes or are mainly going to game with it then you should be ok. If not then you might want to look into a bigger screen with 4k.

I did that. I went from a 28" 1920*1200 monitor to a 27" 1440p monitor and I really liked the monitor. I had it OC to 85 Hz but the text killed me. It was way too small for me. So I sold it and just recently got a 49" Wasabi Mango UHD490 monitor. Text is still smaller than the 28" I had but it is a lot better than the 27" 1440p. It is around the same as a 24" 1080p monitor.

Also, I had a 290 (little bit slower than the 39 you have) and it tank really really bad at 4k. it did not matter that I lowered the settings. I ended up getting a second 290 and I am running in CF and it finally can handle 4k. With one 290 (or only one 390) u will most likely will have to play at 2560*1440 to be able to get decent fps. Plus in my case 1440 with high or ultra settings looked better than 4k with low settings and even medium settings. Older games will probably fare better at 4k. The games I have tried so far Far Cry 3, Demo of DyingLight, Hitman Absolution and Crysis. Hitman is the only one that I could play with high settings and one 290 (I was getting 30 fps) but because of the type of game it felt really smooth and made no difference really with CF besides doubling the fps.

Overall I love my 4k monitor and I would recommend one if u have the horse power to drive one.
 
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slag

Lifer
Dec 14, 2000
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U might want to look at the Wasabi Mango UHD420 or the Crossover 434 since both have FreeSync and it is really nice with 4k. The 390 you have will not cut it at 4k.
This is a stand that I will get eventually for my Monitor:

http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0...rue&ref_=ox_sc_act_title_1&smid=A4RWQRCTJ6CYV

About OC the monitor none of the 4k panels can be oc without skipping frames. Also something to consider is the text size. If you are coming from a 28" 1920*1200 then a 40" 4k panel the text is going to be really small compared with the 28". If you good eyes or are mainly going to game with it then you should be ok. If not then you might want to look into a bigger screen with 4k.

I did that. I went from a 28" 1920*1200 monitor to a 27" 1440p monitor and I really liked the monitor. I had it OC to 85 Hz but the text killed me. It was way too small for me. So I sold it and just recently got a 49" Wasabi Mango UHD490 monitor. Text is still smaller than the 28" I had but it is a lot better than the 27" 1440p. It is around the same as a 24" 1080p monitor.

Also, I had a 290 (little bit slower than the 39 you have) and it tank really really bad at 4k. it did not matter that I lowered the settings. I ended up getting a second 290 and I am running in CF and it finally can handle 4k. With one 290 (or only one 390) u will most likely will have to play at 2560*1440 to be able to get decent fps. Plus in my case 1440 with high or ultra settings looked better than 4k with low settings and even medium settings. Older games will probably fare better at 4k. The games I have tried so far Far Cry 3, Demo of DyingLight, Hitman Absolution and Crysis. Hitman is the only one that I could play with high settings and one 290 (I was getting 30 fps) but because of the type of game it felt really smooth and made no difference really with CF besides doubling the fps.

Overall I love my 4k monitor and I would recommend one if u have the horse power to drive one.

Great info. I should add that I'm trying to future proof my system as much as I can (afford), so whilst I might not be able to game at 4k, I can use the resolution on the desktop and definitely do better than the 1920x1200 I have now. I like borderlands games, path of exiles, nothing too terribly taxing.
 

slag

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I just signed up for ebay bucks so I'm going to hope for a 5x weekend and order it then. It not in the next few weeks, I'll just get it then.
 

borderdeal

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I just signed up for ebay bucks so I'm going to hope for a 5x weekend and order it then. It not in the next few weeks, I'll just get it then.

They come pretty often it seems. I got mine with the 5x ebaybucks and then greensum refunded me 52 because he was out of perfect pixel (what I had bought) so at the end I got it for $700 wich I think is pretty good for a 49". Also FreeSync is really nice and I would recommend it for a 4k monitor. Prices have gone up and if you can hold by thanksgiving they will have some deals for sure. I was originally waiting for a sale by thanks giving but one of my monitors died and I use my pc for work mainly. so I had to jump the gun and I did as sson as I had the email for the 5x ebay bucks. I do not regret buying it now since I got a really nice price and it might just be marginally better by thanks giving.

In my opinion if you already have an AMD card and can get a FreeSync monitor I would say spend the extra money (you also get a bigger monitor with the UHD420 or the 434k). It is hard to describe but u can tell the difference with it on and off. Game is just smooth while it is on. No tearing and such. I ma pretty sure gsync is also noticeable and equally good or maybe even better. But the thing is FreeSync monitors are a lot cheaper.
 

slag

Lifer
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I have around 500ish to spend. Is there a freesync in this price range you would recommend?
 

slag

Lifer
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Wonder what customs would cost on that since its shipped outside the USA....
 

borderdeal

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If u are in the USA nothing. I did not pay anything on the UHD490 and I did not pay anything when I got the X-Star 27" 1440 p monitor and both came from Korea and I bought both from the same seller greensum
 
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