Upgrading Pentium 3 Hp 8756c

[Pixle]

Hp 8756c Specs

Well, I'm finally going to upgrade this Pentium 3 850mhz pc with 128mb of ram and onboard video.

I've put $80 into the machine for 2x256mb of ram. (i've checked compatibility).

The only other thing I can think of upgrading is the onboard video.

What is the best Pci video and best bang per buck video card?

I've thought about upgrading the Cpu - but then I'd probably have to upgrade the Motherboard and thus the Power Supply. Anyone know if the Cpu is upgradable alone? - Possibly 1ghz

Peace

 

[Boonesmi]

i used to have a pci geforce 5700 (it worked very well)

 

[Crescent13]

Do you have the money to get a new one? You can get a dell for $300 with a monitor. That would be a HUGE improvement, more of an improvement than a new graphic card.

 

[Arkane13131]

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16814133134

thats ur best bet as far as a standard pci video card is concerned... GET 2 and go SLI OMGWTFBBQ! ... joke

u could shop around for a used pentium 3 thats slightly faster for dirt cheap...but the major question is..

is it worth it? you can get a solid new system for 300$ if your good. there is a thread about 300$ systems on this forum if you search.
using a pentium 3 in my opinion is fighting a losing battle...trying to dump money into it...but to answer your question.... thats the best pci videocard around...and upgrading the cpu is possible without buying a new motherboard..i think u could get one for 20$ from someone on this forum easily.

good luck..whichever path u choose.

 

[secretanchitman]

how much money are you willing to spend on upgrades? do you really think its worth upgrading an old p3?

for 500 bucks, you could get a nice system...cpu, memory, mobo, psu, video.

but then again, if you dont want to...i guess the ram would be a good upgrade. and i dont really know if 1Ghz will make a difference from 850Mhz. i dont know what other p3 sockets there were, but i do know that p3s went up to 1.33Ghz somewhere there.

for PCI video card, either a radeon 9250 or a geforcefx 5200/5500 or geforce2MX/4MX will be fine. it will be kind of bottlenecked by the CPU and dont expect to play many games...(i had a p3 600mhz and it was dogslow)

i dont know about the PSU though. it all depends on the case (the psu can fit in it or not) and i dont know if 20 pin connectors were used on p3 mobos.

but good luck though!

 

[Pixle]

Originally posted by: secretanchitman
how much money are you willing to spend on upgrades? do you really think its worth upgrading an old p3?

I'm currently using a :
P3 1ghz , 512mb rd ram, x850xt pe system. It runs great for everything, even games.

I guess, I'd rather save the system with at least $140 dollars worth of upgrades. So far it's only been $80 for the ram (512mb) and a $60 pci video card.

I know about the $300 , $500 systems but - I'd rather recycle a system that will benefit a tremendous amount with 512mb ram (previous 128mb) and a video add on. I have a spare 160gb hard drive i'm looking to stick in with windows xp pro.

 

[imported_Kiwi]

Originally posted by: Pixle
I'm currently using a :
P3 1ghz , 512mb rd ram, x850xt pe system. It runs great for everything, even games.

I guess, I'd rather save the system with at least $140 dollars worth of upgrades. So far it's only been $80 for the ram (512mb) and a $60 pci video card. ... with windows xp pro.

That just doesn't seem like much fun at all. Of course, if you enable all of the performance options, and use the Classic interface, it's not quite as slow, but you might as well just use W2K and have less hassle. I haven't liked XP on anything that I've tried it on, not enough to keep it until it needed activation, but now I've tested it at least a couple of days' worth on about five systems. The last two tests were just for grins and giggles.

(And if Bethesda isn't kidding about the OS requirement, when I do get ES IV: Oblivion, I'll have to run XP -- just can't get a copy of SP2 on CD any more, and the one I thought I had was just a second copy of the Feb 2004 Security Pack Rollup.)

The very best PCI card for VGA ever available has been a 128 Bit Geforce 6200, at roughly $100. But all you can find any more, easily, is one or another crippled version, with just 64 Bit memory bandwidth and probably "TC" on top of that. I never ran across any FX VGA better than the 5500 for PCI, which really isn't saying much. I don't think there has been a recent ATI chip set for PCI with anything better than a 9200, and that was replaced in the market by the still more inferior 9250. I still see old Radeon "7000" PCI cards on the shelves at the Brick and mortar stores, and those aren't as good as either ATI's or nVidia's recent IGP's (anything, even an MX 4000, is "somewhat" better than an Intel IGP).

But now that I did answer you, I want to comment about the prudence/ strain on patience of nursing obsolete hardware along. I assembled a very basic "Inet surfing only" box out of stuff I'd consider to have been junk for any other purpose, but the resultant system may end up being a dust collector only. Little sister is next best to techno-phobic. Periodically, she decides to go online to have contact with some of her more-distant fellow doll collector acquaintances.

When the entire idea was still a new one, my backup PC was a very nice 486 running W95 that had cost me quite a lot when it was new. I'm not sure when she asked first -- maybe about 1997. I soon fixed her up, but she'd drop back out after a fairly short while and want to restart a year later maybe. Cyclic. I finally picked up the old thing back again to have a DOS gaming platform for occasion periods of boredom. Now, she asked the same again & I won't give her anything nearly so valuable by comparison this time.

Win XP Home on a K6-2/ 475 is an absolute SLUG with XP on it. That was one test. A potential firewall (my cable company is feeling some competition and may offer a decent price for broadband soon), based on an 866 MHz P3 box cost about $100 in newly purchased used parts. It's not exactly a slug with XP, but I did tune it up some as noted above. It wasn't quite painful to use compared to my newer stuff, but at least tiresome. The one thing I didn't do was give XP quite enough RAM. I only had 384 MB's of spare PC-100 DIMMs to put in it and didn't look for more.

 

[stevty2889]

There is a PCI version of the 6200 like Kiwi said, that will be the best you can go with. I have a 6200TC(PCIe) in one of my machines, and half life 2 was playable at 1024x768 with medium to low settings.

 

[BlacKJesuS]

Originally posted by: Pixle

Originally posted by: secretanchitman
how much money are you willing to spend on upgrades? do you really think its worth upgrading an old p3?

I'm currently using a :
P3 1ghz , 512mb rd ram, x850xt pe system. It runs great for everything, even games.

That makes no sense.....you are bottlenecking that card like crazy

 

[Pixle]

Originally posted by: BlacKJesuS

Originally posted by: Pixle

Originally posted by: secretanchitman
how much money are you willing to spend on upgrades? do you really think its worth upgrading an old p3?

I'm currently using a :
P3 1ghz , 512mb rd ram, x850xt pe system. It runs great for everything, even games.

That makes no sense.....you are bottlenecking that card like crazy

Yeah I know, but it's sort of just their on "hold" until I find a new box for it. I'm waiting for the quad cpu cores later this year. I have an upgrade option on the video card every year and pay a monthly fee for that - So the video has upgraded but the cpu hasnt; bf2 runs great though full resolution and medium settings (60fps no action , 20-40fps action) . I upgraded my ram from 256 to 512 on my 1ghz machine and I was able to do the above settings.

I know that a 450mhz machine is a slug in xp - even windows 98. I have a 256mb 450mhz p3 laptop.

My 1ghz and 850mhz machines run Xp very fast. This is in comparison to the 3400 socket 754 , 1gig ram, 6800gt system I built for my friend a while back.

This is why, I'm recycling this system a bit - at least $100 worth for a 50% increase in performance seems like a good choice to me.

Siiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiii

 

[LiquidImpulse]

Originally posted by: BlacKJesuS

Originally posted by: Pixle

Originally posted by: secretanchitman
how much money are you willing to spend on upgrades? do you really think its worth upgrading an old p3?

I'm currently using a :
P3 1ghz , 512mb rd ram, x850xt pe system. It runs great for everything, even games.

That makes no sense.....you are bottlenecking that card like crazy

:Q oh emm gee, P3 1 GHZ with a x850xt pe?!?!?!?!?

 

[secretanchitman]

Originally posted by: Pixle

Originally posted by: BlacKJesuS

Originally posted by: Pixle

Originally posted by: secretanchitman
how much money are you willing to spend on upgrades? do you really think its worth upgrading an old p3?

I'm currently using a :
P3 1ghz , 512mb rd ram, x850xt pe system. It runs great for everything, even games.

That makes no sense.....you are bottlenecking that card like crazy

Yeah I know, but it's sort of just their on "hold" until I find a new box for it. I'm waiting for the quad cpu cores later this year. I have an upgrade option on the video card every year and pay a monthly fee for that - So the video has upgraded but the cpu hasnt; bf2 runs great though full resolution and medium settings (60fps no action , 20-40fps action) . I upgraded my ram from 256 to 512 on my 1ghz machine and I was able to do the above settings.

I know that a 450mhz machine is a slug in xp - even windows 98. I have a 256mb 450mhz p3 laptop.

My 1ghz and 850mhz machines run Xp very fast. This is in comparison to the 3400 socket 754 , 1gig ram, 6800gt system I built for my friend a while back.

This is why, I'm recycling this system a bit - at least $100 worth for a 50% increase in performance seems like a good choice to me.

Siiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiii

quad cores are supposed to come out from intel in 2007 at the earliest. intel just got their dual-cores up to par/apparently exceeding AMDs dual-core. if you think that your p3 will be fine until probably late next year, then more power to you.

but i dont get it. a p3 1Ghz with a X850XT runs games FINE? i think it would be bottlenecked like hell.

 

[Pixle]

Originally posted by: secretanchitman

Originally posted by: Pixle

Originally posted by: BlacKJesuS

Originally posted by: Pixle

Originally posted by: secretanchitman
how much money are you willing to spend on upgrades? do you really think its worth upgrading an old p3?

I'm currently using a :
P3 1ghz , 512mb rd ram, x850xt pe system. It runs great for everything, even games.

That makes no sense.....you are bottlenecking that card like crazy

Yeah I know, but it's sort of just their on "hold" until I find a new box for it. I'm waiting for the quad cpu cores later this year. I have an upgrade option on the video card every year and pay a monthly fee for that - So the video has upgraded but the cpu hasnt; bf2 runs great though full resolution and medium settings (60fps no action , 20-40fps action) . I upgraded my ram from 256 to 512 on my 1ghz machine and I was able to do the above settings.

I know that a 450mhz machine is a slug in xp - even windows 98. I have a 256mb 450mhz p3 laptop.

My 1ghz and 850mhz machines run Xp very fast. This is in comparison to the 3400 socket 754 , 1gig ram, 6800gt system I built for my friend a while back.

This is why, I'm recycling this system a bit - at least $100 worth for a 50% increase in performance seems like a good choice to me.

Siiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiii

quad cores are supposed to come out from intel in 2007 at the earliest. intel just got their dual-cores up to par/apparently exceeding AMDs dual-core. if you think that your p3 will be fine until probably late next year, then more power to you.

but i dont get it. a p3 1Ghz with a X850XT runs games FINE? i think it would be bottlenecked like hell.

To tell you the truth, i'm a bit short on cash right now (the tiger pc wait)... As far as games, I do miss playing them at full quality and high resolutions - but I just stopped gaming for a while now. Spending more time with my music, jiu jitsu, and learning c++.

x850xt - I get to upgrade my video card at a local store every year. I pay a montly fee to get this (pm for details ). 2007 for quad cores -- ahhhh, I thought anand just saw some quad core cpu's from intel. Quad Core seems like a good thing to wait for though.

Yeah, a p3 1ghz x850xt, 512mb rd ram , will run on medium settings (no aa, no af, 80% view - 100%). at around 1280 x 1024. (50fps no action, 30-40 action) (some slow - 10fps when theirs choppers, tanks, ppl, grenades etc..) for a second though.

I like flying the chopper though

 

[DotheDamnTHing]

save your money

 

[Maximilian]

If its slot 1 then just disregard this, but if its socket 370 your motherboard may support a 1.4 tualatin, aka pentium III-S. You can *somtimes* pick these up really cheap on ebay, but for the most part theyre really expensive. Decent CPU though if you can get one cheap, comes with an IHS, was on par with a pentium 4 1.7ghz i believe, possible even the 2.0ghz version.

 

[secretanchitman]

Originally posted by: Pixle

Originally posted by: secretanchitman

Originally posted by: Pixle

Originally posted by: BlacKJesuS

Originally posted by: Pixle

Originally posted by: secretanchitman
how much money are you willing to spend on upgrades? do you really think its worth upgrading an old p3?

I'm currently using a :
P3 1ghz , 512mb rd ram, x850xt pe system. It runs great for everything, even games.

That makes no sense.....you are bottlenecking that card like crazy

Yeah I know, but it's sort of just their on "hold" until I find a new box for it. I'm waiting for the quad cpu cores later this year. I have an upgrade option on the video card every year and pay a monthly fee for that - So the video has upgraded but the cpu hasnt; bf2 runs great though full resolution and medium settings (60fps no action , 20-40fps action) . I upgraded my ram from 256 to 512 on my 1ghz machine and I was able to do the above settings.

I know that a 450mhz machine is a slug in xp - even windows 98. I have a 256mb 450mhz p3 laptop.

My 1ghz and 850mhz machines run Xp very fast. This is in comparison to the 3400 socket 754 , 1gig ram, 6800gt system I built for my friend a while back.

This is why, I'm recycling this system a bit - at least $100 worth for a 50% increase in performance seems like a good choice to me.

Siiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiii

quad cores are supposed to come out from intel in 2007 at the earliest. intel just got their dual-cores up to par/apparently exceeding AMDs dual-core. if you think that your p3 will be fine until probably late next year, then more power to you.

but i dont get it. a p3 1Ghz with a X850XT runs games FINE? i think it would be bottlenecked like hell.

To tell you the truth, i'm a bit short on cash right now (the tiger pc wait)... As far as games, I do miss playing them at full quality and high resolutions - but I just stopped gaming for a while now. Spending more time with my music, jiu jitsu, and learning c++.

x850xt - I get to upgrade my video card at a local store every year. I pay a montly fee to get this (pm for details ). 2007 for quad cores -- ahhhh, I thought anand just saw some quad core cpu's from intel. Quad Core seems like a good thing to wait for though.

Yeah, a p3 1ghz x850xt, 512mb rd ram , will run on medium settings (no aa, no af, 80% view - 100%). at around 1280 x 1024. (50fps no action, 30-40 action) (some slow - 10fps when theirs choppers, tanks, ppl, grenades etc..) for a second though.

I like flying the chopper though

haha gotcha...then if you dont do much gaming (from what you said), then stick with this setup, but upgrade parts to your p3.

 

[dodgybob]

I think the tualatin core P3s used fcpga2 sockets and i'm guessing that the 866mhz P3 you have is at most a fcpga socket. By the way I remember that ages ago there was a pci version of the geforce4 ti4600 released. I guess those will be very rare if you can find one second hand though.