Upgrading to new PC, is this a big jump?

alocurto

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I am going from a Hyper Threaded P4 3.20Ghz to a AMD Athlon X2 3800+ with the Manchester Core.

I found this link: http://www.cpubenchmark.net/index.php which has some comparisons but I wanted some of your thoughts.

I haven't built a PC in a long while and I am trying to get back into the new hardware that has come out.
 

aCynic2

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How much can you spend? That's the big question.

After I got my taxes back, I could spend a lot. How much can you put down? Then, you start piecing together.
 

myocardia

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Those two cpu's are roughly comparable, if running single-threaded software. Running SMP-capable software, though, and the X2 3800 will trounce the P4. Of course, if you overclock the 3800 a bit, it's no longer much of a contest.
 

randomstring

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c2d is the way to go. this is my upgrade path, northwood -> a64 3000 -> c2d recently. c2d is fantastic combined with all ram and bus boost, you cannot go wrong. btw, leave alone with HT, that design is totally a joke, don't argue with me.
 

Roguestar

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Originally posted by: randomstring
btw, leave alone with HT, that design is totally a joke, don't argue with me.
Hello, I would like you to justify that logical leap please.
 

hurtstotalktoyou

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I don't think you'll see much of a performance increase from an P4 3.2 to an X2 3800+. Even multi-threaded apps and general multi-tasking won't "trounce" the P4, as someone above claimed.

You can find benchmarks comparing the P4 540 (a later edition of the P4 3.2GHz) and a modern X2 3800+ Windsor here. As you can see, even with multitasking you're only looking at a 40-50% performance increase; in single-threaded apps the gain slips to 20-40%. This is definitely an improvement, but I don't think it justifies a new rig. If that's all the speed you need, consider overclocking the P4 (if your motherboard permits) and/or adding more memory. If you have a dual-core capable board, you might consider popping in a used Pentium D 925 (probably ~$80 in the fs/t forum). If your board is both dual-core capable and overclockable, you can get a Pentium D 805 for ~$50 and crank it up to 925 speed (or better).

But if you're moving to a new platform, that means a considerable amount of money, which means you'll want to make sure you get more than a 20-50% performance increase. Try this configuration:

$117 Microsoft Windows Vista Home Premium 32-bit OEM
$115 Intel Core 2 Duo E4300 retail
$85 Gigabyte GA-945P-S3 LGA775 motherboard
$80 Seagate Barracuda 7200.10 320GB SATA/300 hard disk
$65 Raidmax Apex ATX-802BP mid-tower case w/450W PSU
$50 Wintec AMPO 1GB (2x512MB) DDR2-800 memory
$49 Biostar V7102GL13 7100GS passive video card
$44 FSP Group ATX400-PA power supply
$33 Lite-on LH-20A1P-186 DVD burner retail
$12 Samsung SFD321B/LBL1 floppy drive

It comes out to $640-$650, depending on how shipping is consolidated. Then you can part out and sell the P4 system, maybe getting $150-$200 back.
 

Zardnok

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For a grand, I would get an 8800gts video card, C2D 6420, 965DS3, 2X1 Gig RAM, Corsair HX-520 PSU, and whatever other stuffage you want.
 
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