URGENT: PLEASE READ!!!

[Texmaster]

Hang on guys. I signed it too but now I'm hearing from a few friends that this is a fake.

Can anyone confirm this??

 

[FatDragonn]

lock this crap up. this is such bs. yeah sure, they'll make all of the following illegal


"The SSSCA, among other things, will make the following illegal:
* Assembling a home-built PC.
* Using a non-secure computer (ie, a computer built before the would-be implementation of the SSSCA) on a network.
* Widespread development of open-sourced (non-copyrighted and ?digitally unsigned?) software.
* Use of open-sourced software (essentially the entire software platform for the UNIX and Linux operating systems, on which Computer Science research relies).
* University and corporate research on systems, debugging, security, and watermarking."

If assembling a home built pc becomes illegal, that'll be the day when smoking cigaweed will be legal w/o having glaucoma

 

[Ornery]

• Draft dated August 6, 2001. This bill has not been introduced as of September 7, 2001

 

[BoberFett]

<< lock this crap up. this is such bs. yeah sure, they'll make all of the following illegal

If assembling a home built pc becomes illegal, that'll be the day when smoking cigaweed will be legal w/o having glaucoma >>

Read between the lines you dolt. They're not going to pass a law that says "You may not build a computer." They'll pass a law which makes it illegal to use electronic components that don't pass Hollywood muster. And Steven Spielberg isn't going to send a tech to your house to make sure the computer you use is legit, so only computers built by large manufacturers to Hollywood approved spec will be legal.

What a fool you are.

 

[db]

All the Big Money people get the ear of the politician, and often the voice--but when it's pretty insane, it will go nowhere.
This is so outrageous and wide-spread that it can never succeed. Cracks will be coded up as fast as they can introduce a new product.
What are they going to do, put 20 million people in jail b/c they don't set up their computers right? Fvckin riiigggghhhhttt...........

 

[FatDragonn]

" Read between the lines you dolt. They're not going to pass a law that says "You may not build a computer." They'll pass a law which makes it illegal to use electronic components that don't pass Hollywood muster. And Steven Spielberg isn't going to send a tech to your house to make sure the computer you use is legit, so only computers built by large manufacturers to Hollywood approved spec will be legal.

What a fool you are. "

hey, moron, pssst... yeah, i'm talking to you, recognize sarcasm when you see it. get ur head out of your @ss and stop being so fckin paranoid.

yeah, next thing you know you wont be able to purchase boxers w/o a sensor on them to make sure that you're not getting a stiffy by watching unauthorized copies of your fav porn flick.

 

[DevilsAdvocate]

As a right wing bastard, this is just an example of how government can become too powerful.

This will eventually happen. Not right now... but within our lifetime (assuming you're in your 20's). Government power has been expanding at an alarming rate ever since FDR started expanding the power of the Federal government in the 30's. This trend continues today... with the consent of the sheep governed.

This type of $hit could force me to start voting libertarian.

 

[DaiShan]

BoberFett
did you bother to read the bill language? I'm not tryin to bust on you here but it does state that you cannot build a computer that does not meet the standard, read sec.101 subsections a and b. Notice that even in the exception it doesn not exclude individual builders from this law, also I would like to direct your attention to the bill definitions located on in section 109, more specifically numbers 2 and 3. This bill only serves big business, this gives the government enormous control, it effectively adds more power and broader scope to the roaming wiretap (which I believe to be unconstitutional) the government is effectively saying that they can monior what you do at all times in order to "protect" you. I don't want that kind of protection, as soon as the government begins taking power like this, this is when we rise up, it has happend in the past it will happen again.

 

[DevilsAdvocate]

Never underestimate the stupidity of your own government.

 

[Mucman]

How would this affect us Canucks in America's Junior?

If this passed I could see a mass nerd population increase up here!

 

[smp]

This country continues to spiral downward until the rest of the world no longer views the U.S. as the world leader in anything except tyranny

It's already too late.

 

[tops2]

<Assembling a home-built PC[/n]>

man..dumb
they wonder y people don't vote...cause of dumb bills and dumb people in the government

 

[RU482]

<< Do you want a 4GB memory chip with your weed? >>



Damn, all this time I've been doing it the other way around

 

[Darien]

Gateway?

Have you gone mad?!

What about alienware?

And dare i say it?









Apple.

 

[Kzoo]

Is there any information available regarding the feelings other Senators have for the SSSCA?

 

[maddmaxx]

Let it pass!!! If it does, it will give the hackers something to do....and all of us can follow in their footsteps!!! Come on, Billy Boy (Gates that is) is one of the biggest hackers/steelers of others ideas that has ever been, and it's only time before another inovator/hacker takes the tech industry to the next level. Microsoft is trying to get a hold of the industry because they are scared of this. They (Billy Boy) know that the computer/tech industry is still in it's infancy, and that sooner or later someone is going to come up with a better, more effient, more user friendly way of doing things. I seriously doubt anything like that bill will ever happen, but if it does, it will only hurt the companys that are trying to help themselves, and so be it!!!

peace

 

[wolfsblood]

this is just plain absurd, kinda 1984-ish don't you think?

 

[BigNeko]

Nobody is making fun of Canada now, eh?

 

[DaiShan]

<< Nobody is making fun of Canada now, eh? >>


ok I will, who besides a canuck uses the word "eh"?

 

[virtaava]

All USA and non USA citizens please read this !!
You can give your opinion about sssca in there. :|
OpenSource article give your opinion about sssca
you should read this too
ARSTECHNICA

 

[ssanches]

<< This would mean we would all have to buy premade computers from...

Dare i say it..


GATEWAY!!!!! AAAHHHHHHH.... >>



:Q

AAARGH! HAAALP! Where's my Mommy???

 

[Lithium381]

This would be lame, what do they expect to gain in reality? Just more control? Can't let them have that, hopefully it won't get too far before March, then i'll be 18 and can vote against it! Yay

 

[dmcowen674]

Ladies & Gentleman, it appears you can stand down the missiles again, however remain vigilant. You never know when they will try again. Moderators could probably "unstick" this thread. Good job everyone.

Dave McOwen

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House Cool to Copy Protection
By Declan McCullagh (declan@wired.com) and Robert Zarate

2:00 a.m. March 4, 2002 PST
WASHINGTON -- The U.S. House of Representatives doesn't seem willing
to intercede in an increasingly bitter dispute over embedding copy
protection controls in all consumer electronic devices.

Key legislators in the House have indicated they're skeptical of the
government mandating anti-piracy technology, an approach that
Democrats of the Senate Commerce Committee endorsed during a hearing
last Thursday.

Fretting that online piracy of digital content will imperil sales,
Hollywood studios have asked Congress to bypass their negotiations
with Silicon Valley firms by requiring that all PCs and consumer
electronics sport technology to prohibit illicit copying. Senate
Commerce Chairman Fritz Hollings (D-South Carolina) has championed
this approach.

"Mr. Coble believes Hollings' approach would have the government
mandate specific software standards governing encryption or access
to copyrighted works, which are transmitted digitally in lieu of
negotiated industry standards," said a spokesman for Rep. Howard
Coble (R-North Carolina), the chairman of the House Judiciary
Subcommittee on Intellectual Property.

Spokesman Terry Shawn said: "He is concerned that this approach is
too interventionist and could lead to standards which favor certain
brands of software over others, and which could quickly become
obsolete as technology improves or changes." [...]

"Hollings' bill would mandate copy protection chips on all sorts of
hardware and machines in the same way that the V-chip was mandated
on television sets," said Richard Diamond, a spokesman for House
Majority Leader Dick Armey (R-Texas).

Diamond said his boss, one of the more vocal members of the
Republican Party's free-market wing, doesn't like the government
requiring standards: "Rep. Armey found the V-chip inappropriate
too."

[...]



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[Vernor]

There's an election in Nov. I bet the studios will pour a lot of money into it.

All the comitee charmainships could switch hands, so there is little reason to feel complancency.

 

[stev0]

<< this is BS.. it will never happen. all the computer nerds will stop america flat if this ever goes through. >>



so very true. think of all the IT's that work for the goverenment, or for the major corperations here in america, ie: microsoft. i for one think that this is insane, what is it going to hurt by building my own computer? i'm honestly speachless.