Uriah Faber

[dbk]

Originally posted by: JDawg1536

Originally posted by: dbk

Originally posted by: QueBert

Originally posted by: dbk
I don't get why he doesn't move to the UFC...

if he moves to the UFC he'll have to move up to 155, he's dominating WEC but in UFC he'd be facing Stevenson, Penn, Fitch. UFC's 155 division is pretty sick. Not saying he couldn't beat them but he would have a hard time. He's never faced a dude with BJJ like Penn or Stevenson has.

That's what I'm saying...Put him up there with them and let's see it! PPV $$$

Putting a guy who fights at 145 against a guy like Penn who just fought at 170? Faber would hang, no doubt.

http://www.mmaweekly.com/absol...ticleid=7025&zoneid=13

 

[kenrippy]

i would love to see faber destroy that shit talking bj penn.

 

[Lucky777]

hmm... that's a killer ass chin.

BTW, Fedor, Kitaoka, Aoki > ALL

Imanari > Yamamoto > Faber

 

[Zebo]

The correct answer is Fedor and will always be Fedor.

Never been beat never lost a round how can anyone compare to that?

 

[QueBert]

Originally posted by: Zebo
The correct answer is Fedor and will always be Fedor.

Never been beat never lost a round how can anyone compare to that?

he's lost a round lol many say Arona beat him in Rings (different rules though) Fedor isn't the greatest of all time, the best now yes. "Ice Cold" Igor is the GOAT. Fedor will possibly surpass him one day. Machida is looking like he could go on to be a possible GOAT. He looked stunning against Thiago. And even with a loss already Lesnar has the tools to maybe become unbeatable in a year or 2. Igor was unbeaten besides a submission from a chin in the eye *OUCH* and won more straight fights than anyone. And some of his fights were 30+ wars with no breaks or rounds. Also he fought in multiple tournies where he'd be in 3 fights the same damn day. He kept fighting after he should have retired or else his record would be every bit as good as Fedors.

 

[Zebo]

People that think that are clueless . Arona was dominated and Fedor on top whole time ...would have destroyed his face if real MMA rules were in place. Next you're going to say he lost with illegal elbow where doc stopped fight in 14 seconds well then he lost to Big Nog in #2 as well since doc stopped that fight. Sorry not buying it and no serious fan does. Ask the fighters they'll tell you fedor is the best ever - has the sicket subs, the quickest hips faster than BJ's and he's a HW and is all around the best fighter ever and classiest fighter ever to boot. Lesnar can't hold Fedor's jock strap - I hope he gets to UFC so you'll see what I mean. Armbar in first round or KO since he moves so slow. Igor really get serious. Randy and Igor with thier 9+ loses each are most overrated to ever grace MMA.

Just my opinion of course.

 

[QueBert]

Originally posted by: Zebo
People that think that are clueless . Arona was dominated and Fedor on top whole time ...would have destroyed his face if real MMA rules were in place. Next you're going to say he lost with illegal elbow where doc stopped fight in 14 seconds well then he lost to Big Nog in #2 as well since doc stopped that fight. Sorry not buying it and no serious fan does. Ask the fighters they'll tell you fedor is the best ever - has the sicket subs, the quickest hips faster than BJ's and he's a HW and is all around the best fighter ever and classiest fighter ever to boot. Lesnar can't hold Fedor's jock strap - I hope he gets to UFC so you'll see what I mean. Armbar in first round or KO since he moves so slow. Igor really get serious. Randy and Igor with thier 9+ loses each are most overrated to ever grace MMA.

Just my opinion of course.

Wait are you saying Lesnar is slow? Fedor might have quicker striking but that's it. Brock ran a 4.7 second 40 yard dash and is easily the fastest dude in MMA outside of a few who are half his size. He moves quicker than practically any MW even. I'm not saying he's better than Fedor, because he's not. But speed wise there's no question who's faster. Give brock a few years to train he might be able to beat Fedor. Brock with BJJ will be unstoppable. Fedor won't arm bar him as he won't be able to get Brock down, even with Fedors Sambo, he's not going to be able to deal with size Lesnars TD defense to get him down. He could KO him I won't question that, any of submission would be highly questionable. Especially with Brock working so hard on his BJJ.

You bring up Igor's 9 losses, but you fail to mention how many fights he has. He had more fights than Fedor, you can't argue that. And not just a couple, he had almost twice as many. And it's doubtful at his current pace Fedor will retire with even close to as many fights. Fedor will retire before he hits 40 fights.

Igor is 47-9-1
Fedor is 29-1-0

it's unfair to compare their record until Fedor has 27 more fights under his belt (which won't EVER happen) Igor was 30-1 at one point. Which is oddly about where Fedor is right now, and he (Igor) had wins over the best at the time.

just my opinion of course, hell in my eyes Don Frye is the greatest MMA fighter ever

 

[mztykal]

Penn and Faber, Penn would MURDER Faber at 155.

Penn was sloppy in his fight with GSP cus he didn't have to make weight and push himself to do so. But Penn at 155 is AWESOME!

He destroyed Stevenson and Pulver like nothing. Faber wouldn't stand a chance.

 

[Zebo]

Originally posted by: QueBert

Originally posted by: Zebo
People that think that are clueless . Arona was dominated and Fedor on top whole time ...would have destroyed his face if real MMA rules were in place. Next you're going to say he lost with illegal elbow where doc stopped fight in 14 seconds well then he lost to Big Nog in #2 as well since doc stopped that fight. Sorry not buying it and no serious fan does. Ask the fighters they'll tell you fedor is the best ever - has the sicket subs, the quickest hips faster than BJ's and he's a HW and is all around the best fighter ever and classiest fighter ever to boot. Lesnar can't hold Fedor's jock strap - I hope he gets to UFC so you'll see what I mean. Armbar in first round or KO since he moves so slow. Igor really get serious. Randy and Igor with thier 9+ loses each are most overrated to ever grace MMA.

Just my opinion of course.

Wait are you saying Lesnar is slow? Fedor might have quicker striking but that's it. Brock ran a 4.7 second 40 yard dash and is easily the fastest dude in MMA outside of a few who are half his size. He moves quicker than practically any MW even. I'm not saying he's better than Fedor, because he's not. But speed wise there's no question who's faster. Give brock a few years to train he might be able to beat Fedor. Brock with BJJ will be unstoppable. Fedor won't arm bar him as he won't be able to get Brock down, even with Fedors Sambo, he's not going to be able to deal with size Lesnars TD defense to get him down. He could KO him I won't question that, any of submission would be highly questionable. Especially with Brock working so hard on his BJJ.

You bring up Igor's 9 losses, but you fail to mention how many fights he has. He had more fights than Fedor, you can't argue that. And not just a couple, he had almost twice as many. And it's doubtful at his current pace Fedor will retire with even close to as many fights. Fedor will retire before he hits 40 fights.

Igor is 47-9-1
Fedor is 29-1-0

it's unfair to compare their record until Fedor has 27 more fights under his belt (which won't EVER happen) Igor was 30-1 at one point. Which is oddly about where Fedor is right now, and he (Igor) had wins over the best at the time.

just my opinion of course, hell in my eyes Don Frye is the greatest MMA fighter ever

Dude fast and quick are different. I know this first hand I was fast in HS ran 100 and 200 but could not box for shit too slow. Got caught too much like everyone who fights Fedor gets caught in something. Man you should see this thread I saw of fight in slow-mo when he faught AA. He parried every fucken blow AA put on him it was amazing. AA did'nt hit shit before getting KTFO. His reaction time and hand speed in unmatched. Brock will be taking him down once he realizes he getting schooled up top then it;s really over

Igor was still a young man when real fighters, world class athletes, came on the scene, and they beat him , a lot. Sorry I just can't accept he fought the comp they are fighting today when he had his run, they were one dimensional fighters and small affairs as well.

I love Don Frye too.:heart:

 

[Zebo]

You do relise UFC's HW division is like really weak right? Has a guy Fedor almost killed twice who can't see. A crippled motor biker and a wrestler with no real experience... All the best HW are outside UFC Fedor, Overeem, Barnett etc. I wish Dana White could build that division the best like all his others are.

Anyway I'll see if I can find that video I was mentioning so you can see what quick really is. Made AA look slow.

 

[QueBert]

Originally posted by: Zebo
You do relise UFC's HW division is like really weak right? Has a guy Fedor almost killed twice who can't see. A crippled motor biker and a wrestler with no real experience... All the best HW are outside UFC Fedor, Overeem, Barnett etc. I wish Dana White could build that division the best like all his others are.

Anyway I'll see if I can find that video I was mentioning so you can see what quick really is. Made AA look slow.

I know what quick is, Brock is a freak of a nature a man his size should be slow as hell, but somehow his speed is alien like. I think we'll see a lot of it against Mir. I wouldn't say ufc HW division is all that bad. Mir looked awesome against a guy before the fight he had "NO chance in hell of beating!" all of a sudden Nog is a beat up old man lol. Mir could beat Overeem and I think Brock might be able to use his size and muscle to beat Barnett. His size speed and strength will be a problem for anyone. And with how dedicated he is to training I think his future looks great.

 

[Zebo]

I'm with you on the whole Brock thing. My old time friends who watched since UFC 1.0 thinks he's a joke but I really think he's super human too. His problem against Fedor though is fedor has super high IQ, I mean he just pulls shit out of no where like that sick ass armbar he did on Coleman when Coleman was trying to break his nose with that cheap hand rasping... It's like Fedor just decides he's had enough and decides to win and it's over.. like a on off switch. Fujita is another example. Also Fedor has experience factor. But who knows. Brock is certainly someone who could hold Fedor and keep him there if he wanted and maybe pound him out while avoiding subs. Would love to see it in a couple years. Brock will be at his peak and Fedor just coming off it (age is a bitch). Dana really needs to stop being cheap ass and sign them all. Even AA and Timmy again.

 

[Zebo]

Oh and nog is done, admit it, guy looks 55 and can't see, you had to see it his last 4 fights.. barley survived every one.

 

[QueBert]

Originally posted by: Zebo
I'm with you on the whole Brock thing. My old time friends who watched since UFC 1.0 thinks he's a joke but I really think he's super human too. His problem against Fedor though is fedor has super high IQ, I mean he just pulls shit out of no where like that sick ass armbar he did on Coleman when Coleman was trying to break his nose with that cheap hand rasping... It's like Fedor just decides he's had enough and decides to win and it's over.. like a on off switch. Fujita is another example. Also Fedor has experience factor. But who knows. Brock is certainly someone who could hold Fedor and keep him there if he wanted and maybe pound him out while avoiding subs. Would love to see it in a couple years. Brock will be at his peak and Fedor just coming off it (age is a bitch). Dana really needs to stop being cheap ass and sign them all. Even AA and Timmy again.

lol it has nothing to do with money, Fedor won't sign because Dana wouldn't let him fight in the yearly Sambo tourny in Russia. Would love to see AA back in UFC, Timmy pretty much left because he was butt hurt Brock was making more his 1st fight than Timmy ever made. I wouldn't mind seeing Timmy back. Fedor Vs Brock would be sick, I think Brock would give him a fight, probably would lose due to lack of experience but would do better than a lot of vets. If Affliction folds I don't know what Fedor would do, maybe go to Japan and fight for Dream. Your friend sounds like a Sherdogger. brock looked nice against Randy, he threw some sick ass knees and it's always crazy to watch him Hammer Fist a dude. Brock's scary and even if Mir beats him he'll always be a contender.

 

[RagingBITCH]

Originally posted by: QueBert

Originally posted by: dbk
I don't get why he doesn't move to the UFC...

if he moves to the UFC he'll have to move up to 155, he's dominating WEC but in UFC he'd be facing Stevenson, Penn, Fitch. UFC's 155 division is pretty sick. Not saying he couldn't beat them but he would have a hard time. He's never faced a dude with BJJ like Penn or Stevenson has.

Um, Fitch doesn't fight at 155. There isn't enough weight on that man to cut to make 155. He's already jacked at 170. I guess if he really tried he could (Sherk fought originally at 170, even then he was very ripped and muscular, guess he lost some of the muscle weight to fight at 155)