US accuses Iran of 'alarming provocations'

Skyclad1uhm1

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http://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-39649683

"Iran is the world's leading state sponsor of terrorism and is responsible for intensifying multiple conflicts and undermining US interests in countries such as Syria, Yemen, Iraq, and Lebanon, and continuing to support attacks against Israel."

I guess Iran fighting alongside the Iraqi military (at the request of the Iraqi government) against IS is really undermining US interests.

The secretary of state earlier acknowledged the Iranians had met the terms of the 2015 nuclear deal. But he said its "nuclear ambitions" remained "a grave risk to international peace and security".

So... one reason why they wanted to go to war with Iran is no longer available and therefor the US has to make up new reasons for it?
 

trenchfoot

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Just Trump's way of creating fear, unrest and uncertainty to drive up the price of oil so his pal Putin can get powerful enough to finally get back all of those satellite states he lost when the USSR collapsed.

This obvious ploy worked great for the Bush/Cheney cabal toward achieving their agenda and there's every reason why those idiots that backed these two crooks in their efforts by re-electing them are going to fall for the same scam all over again.

They're so sickeningly reliable that way. lol
 

Genx87

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http://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-39649683



I guess Iran fighting alongside the Iraqi military (at the request of the Iraqi government) against IS is really undermining US interests.



So... one reason why they wanted to go to war with Iran is no longer available and therefor the US has to make up new reasons for it?

It is really ironic a nation that has in the past 15 years toppled 3 countries and working on a 4th that has resulted in the deaths of over a million people is complaining about Irans state sponsorship of terrorism.
 
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Pens1566

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Leaving out that the day before, Rexxon informed congress that Iran is abiding by the nuclear deal.
 

Maxima1

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It is really ironic a nation that has in the past 15 years toppled 3 countries and working on a 4th that has resulted in the deaths of over a million people is complaining about Irans state sponsorship of terrorism.

What has the US done that's analogous to what Iran has (e.g. helping kill US soldiers with IEDs or helping kill Israelis)?
 

Maxima1

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You're right... Iran is small potatoes next to us.

What have we done? We destroyed Iraq, Libya, and Syria. We created ISIS. All told, we caused the deaths of over a million people.
Iran doesn't have !@#$ next to our death toll this millennium.

How is it equivalent? A lot of it back fired, but that wasn't the intention when intervening or removing a crappy government, nor was it done via the US (i.e. death from conflict of a fractured and backward populous). The US has been responsible for the stability for a lot of those dictatorships you seem fond of, btw. Arab Spring proved to be a joke, but that just shows how flawed your stupid drivel is.
 

trenchfoot

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That's just nonsense. Since Gulf War 1, the only legit thing we've done in the middle east was toppling the Taliban. Everything else was unnecessary and now we own it because we broke it.

We not only broke it, we stomped it into the ground, played whack a mole with its leaders and right at this very moment we're lighting fire to it and watching it running around in circles all lit up like yer average bonafide old time religious book burning ceremony.

Gotta do whatever it takes to keep the price of a barrel of oil as artificially high as possible ya know?
 

Mxylplyx

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How is it equivalent? A lot of it back fired, but that wasn't the intention when intervening or removing a crappy government, nor was it done via the US (i.e. death from conflict of a fractured and backward populous). The US has been responsible for the stability for a lot of those dictatorships you seem fond of, btw. Arab Spring proved to be a joke, but that just shows how flawed your stupid drivel is.

What you claim to be the well intentions of the boneheaded foreign adventures by the US means jack shit to the 1+ million dead as a result. The United States wields enormous power in this world with it's economic and military might, and thus has an enormous responsibility to use it wisely. Take a step back and contemplate the enormous piles of dead bodies and misery that have resulted from our reckless foreign interventions. Countless dead children that will never grow up are directly attributable to the the US decision to invade Iraq, a decision much of the world cautioned against. And for what? We accomplished nothing by toppling that government, and seeded the creation of ISIS and the resulting instability in Syria that led to this civil war. Anything Iran has done does not even begin to measure up to the carnage this country has caused, good intentions be damned. Take off your patriotic blinders.
 
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dank69

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How is it equivalent? A lot of it back fired, but that wasn't the intention when intervening or removing a crappy government, nor was it done via the US (i.e. death from conflict of a fractured and backward populous). The US has been responsible for the stability for a lot of those dictatorships you seem fond of, btw. Arab Spring proved to be a joke, but that just shows how flawed your stupid drivel is.
Oh, well, if that wasn't our intention then I guess it's okay.
 
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Genx87

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What has the US done that's analogous to what Iran has (e.g. helping kill US soldiers with IEDs or helping kill Israelis)?

Destroyed 3 nations that resulted in 1+ million dead, and working on a 4th. Our drone war that out of 100 people killed are civilians hitting just 5 combatants. Hell in just the last month or so we have targeted Hospitals and Schools while killing upwards of 1000 civilians.
 
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Genx87

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How is it equivalent? A lot of it back fired, but that wasn't the intention when intervening or removing a crappy government, nor was it done via the US (i.e. death from conflict of a fractured and backward populous). The US has been responsible for the stability for a lot of those dictatorships you seem fond of, btw. Arab Spring proved to be a joke, but that just shows how flawed your stupid drivel is.

We used the threat and actual violence to achieve a political goal. That is the very definition of terrorism. I don't know how you can not see the equivalencies. In many ways we are worse. Our death toll is much higher.
 

hal2kilo

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Shush, don't mention the 800 pound Israeli lobby gorilla that seems to keep us stuck over there.
 

interchange

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Just Trump's way of creating fear, unrest and uncertainty to drive up the price of oil so his pal Putin can get powerful enough to finally get back all of those satellite states he lost when the USSR collapsed.

Goodness, I wish he were that smart and self-aware.
 
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