let me guess...it will be called TAFTA; it will have a few word changes that make it entirely equivalent to NAFTA in every aspect; and Trump will say he deserves credit for negotiating a tough new trade deal (tm)
How'd you guess?let me guess...it will be called TAFTA; it will have a few word changes that make it entirely equivalent to NAFTA in every aspect; and Trump will say he deserves credit for negotiating a tough new trade deal (tm)
I didn't say that at all. Please refrain from putting words in my mouth.
Agree to disagree how? Can anyone articulate to me how this helps the average American?
Again, I can see how it helps you if your job is building cars. I fail to see how it helps the rest of us and it in fact hurts us because we foot the bill.
And a dishonest one in the context of this discussion. I'm not against working people everywhere getting higher wages. OTOH, this is Trump, the flimflam man, so I'd rate the chances of anybody getting higher wages (particularly Mexicans) as mere fluffery.That was a yes or question.
And a dishonest one in the context of this discussion. I'm not against working people everywhere getting higher wages. OTOH, this is Trump, the flimflam man, so I'd rate the chances of anybody getting higher wages (particularly Mexicans) as mere fluffery.
let me guess...it will be called TAFTA; it will have a few word changes that make it entirely equivalent to NAFTA in every aspect; and Trump will say he deserves credit for negotiating a tough new trade deal (tm)
I see it as the pong game. I said this recently but Ill say it again. If we can do something for a country that is responsible for the largest amount of illegal immigrants into our country that might curtail that, that benefits us.
I see it as the pong game. I said this recently but Ill say it again. If we can do something for a country that is responsible for the largest amount of illegal immigrants into our country that might curtail that, that benefits us.
Can someone tell me what the purpose of this announcement was? I mean at all? Was this just another effort to get attention onto himself by making big claims against something completely insignificant?
It's not like world leaders are as stupid as his supporters though. We know Mexico won't proceed without Canada. They've said as much. It's just hollow.He's trying to pressure Trudeau into a deal and quickly. Also for personal attention because the news channels are wall to wall McCain.
Illegal immigration of Mexican nationals basically fell off a cliff after 2008 and people retiring have reduced their share of illegals residing in the US substantially. A lot of what we're seeing now is people from Central America.
Yes some Mex auto workers will see higher wages and that's good for them but that's a drop in the bucket compared to the massive security, violence, and political problems the US drug war has caused which is the true big driver of immigrants from this part of the world.
So you dismiss even the attempt?
Not surprised,
It's not like world leaders are as stupid as his supporters though. We know Mexico won't proceed without Canada. They've said as much. It's just hollow.
This is an explicit attempt to shift manufacturing back to the US by making current supply chains inefficient on purpose.
Why have Republicans staunchly opposed a $15/hr minimum wage in every US city where that has been proposed or implemented?Because the rest of the world maybe is following the United States left's push last several years of a $15/hr minimum wage. Which it seems most people support.
Why is driving up wages for workers bad?
Thus far, what is being proposed is exactly like NAFTA, except for a few items Trump is touting right now that almost certainly won't be in the final revision.let me guess...it will be called TAFTA; it will have a few word changes that make it entirely equivalent to NAFTA in every aspect; and Trump will say he deserves credit for negotiating a tough new trade deal (tm)
Also the idea that Mexico benefits from this is bonkers as international trade is one of the areas where conservative complaints about the minimum wage are actually fairly accurate.
In the US most minimum wage jobs are local service jobs that aren’t subject to foreign competition. (China can’t export baristas) That’s one of the reasons why local wage floors have such a limited effect on overall employment. That’s not true in this case.
This is an explicit attempt to shift manufacturing back to the US by making current supply chains inefficient on purpose. Apparently conservatives don’t mind paying taxes so long as they exist to prop up uncompetitive US industries. Hey wait a minute, wasn’t that their complaint against solar and wind subsidies? Interesting how when the issue is preventing an ecological catastrophe the free market is sacrosanct but when it comes to propping up the car industry subsidies are just fine.
Reading that R senators don't seem to think that Trump can legally submit a US-Mex pact under the notification he gave to Congress about renegotiating NAFTA. He can give a new notification on a bilateral pact but he'd have to wait 180 days before any agreement can be signed.
$16 minimum wage for Mexican auto workers, not average but minimum.
Not exactly...40% of components would have to be made by workers exceeding $16/hr. Not exactly a blanket minimum wage. Good for some Mexican workers though no doubt though.