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ewdotson

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Fox headline :
ANTIFA DID IT

And for what it's worth, left wing activists have wanted nothing to do with this guy for a while now.

 

shortylickens

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Just took a peak on a gun forum. I really hope you all bought weapons the last four years. These people are full on batshit crazy. Everything we know them to be they are projecting on us. They seriously believe we are the monsters their media feeds them daily.
Yeah its scary. The last time I went to a rifle class was mid 2019 and those fuckin guys would not shut up about the evil Dems and the deep state and every other god damn thing on Breitbart and Fox Propaganda.
And that was just the instructor!
I never bothered with any classes or seminars in 2020. Party because of Coronavirus but mostly because the handful of sane people I knew turned into complete nutjobs in less than a year. Its scary and sad.
 

Grey_Beard

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Fox headline :
ANTIFA DID IT


Wow, one person who has an affiliation with left leaning activists means the entire event was planned by the left. Kind of like the George Floyd rioting, looting and building burning being ANTIFA, err right leaning groups like the Proud Girls, 3% Milquetoast and others.
 
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BoomerD

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Does anyone find it funny that the same party complaining about “hardening” the Capitol is the same party that recommended the very same thing about schools to prevent school shootings?

Nope...it's not the least bit funny...not at all.
 

sportage

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Donald Trump sure did a job on America during his tenure. And because of Trump our future is quite bleak. It started with January 6th but it will not stop with January 6th. Because of Donald Trump America will forever more need a militarized zone just to hold a simple inauguration. When the Fourth of July celebration rolls around, you won’t be able to see the fireworks for all the army tanks. And just imagine the Whitehouse Easter egg hunt... large white bunnies with egg baskets and assault weapons. Donald Trump made America great if you consider guns and QAnon on every street corner as something great again. Thank you Donald Trump and all of your nut job radical extremist for turning America into some Middle Eastern third world country, minus the great internet.
 

Grey_Beard

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Donald Trump sure did a job on America during his tenure. And because of Trump our future is quite bleak. It started with January 6th but it will not stop with January 6th. Because of Donald Trump America will forever more need a militarized zone just to hold a simple inauguration. When the Fourth of July celebration rolls around, you won’t be able to see the fireworks for all the army tanks. And just imagine the Whitehouse Easter egg hunt... large white bunnies with egg baskets and assault weapons. Donald Trump made America great if you consider guns and QAnon on every street corner as something great again. Thank you Donald Trump and all of your nut job radical extremist for turning America into some Middle Eastern third world country, minus the great internet.

I understand what you are saying, but much of this was present before tRump. The internet, especially social media, allowed this desperate group to better coordinate and connect. In the past it would just be a few local crazies that most people stayed away from or knew that if they talked with them they would get this vile diatribe. Today, those people can coordinate over these apps and forums that allow them to exchange crazy conspiracies and even create new ones to show their “creed.” This allowed the group to amass at the Capitol. This wood pile was always soaked with fuel ready to be lit. tRump brought the match and tried to light it many times over the last 45 years. He really succeeded in the last four by using the Presidential bully pulpit and social apps to help his message. Over the years he has tried the press, TV, and radio but was not effective in lighting the heap of crazy, just building a reputation that he was some smart rich guy who aspired to be President. The crazies have been part of this country for 245 years. tRump is what got them going but was not the only thing that met the confluence of things to make this all come to where we are.
 

Heartbreaker

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Have to say Snopes is doing some good work on the Capitol riot stories.





Have to say I was misled by reports about the "oh the huge manatee" story. Glad to hear the creature wasn't really injured. Also I would not like to have been the Snopes reporter who had to ask the grieving widow about the taser story, but fair play to them for trying to get the facts right. Facts are generally a good thing.

I'd never heard of some of the Qanon theories they also debunk. The Pope one is so nutty that I would hesitate to even mention the debunking because it risks spreading the original lie.






Too bad, RWNJ's won't believe Snopes either. It's just another left wing conspiracy to them.

It must be a tough life when you think reality, is a biased left wing conspiracy.
 

Heartbreaker

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Officer who was crushed in door interviewed:

He said his sergeant had his finger broken with bone sticking out right in the first encounter, used a napkin and duct tape to fix it up and kept going like that for the next 4 hours.

Another officer talks about pulling the out the guy who was crushed. Then they pushed them rioters back. He said it was like "The 300" without the 6 pack abs. When they pushed out, he was the guy on video pulled out beaten. He said he was thinking of Blackhawk Down when he was pulled out by the Mob.

 
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Heartbreaker

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Washington Post pieced together timeline video after rioters got in, and graphics of how close they came:

Edit: I have watched it twice now:

This is VERY good Timeline for inside the building. It really gives an understanding of how the pieces you saw before fit.

How two critical actions saved lawmakers. We have seen them before.

Officer Goodman leading them away from an open door where Mike Pence is with his Family. If that Mob went in that direction. It would have been a disaster. Bravery and incredibly smart thinking on his part. This time it's showing with overhead tracking diagram.

Later Mob was trying to break through to the House Gallery (Floor was evactuated) where many house members are still sheltering. Plains clothes officer was guarding a choke point. He couldn't let any of the mob through that chokepoint. Ashley Babbit was shot as the first one trying to breach. House members heard the shot, and they can be heard saying removing your pins. Fearing the Mob was breaking through and didn't want to make it easy to identify them. After Babbit was shot, the rest of the House Member were evacuated.

Then it was mostly a fight to push rioters out of the building.

 
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pmv

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Washington Post pieced together timeline video after rioters got in, and graphics of how close they came:

Edit: I have watched it twice now:

This is VERY good Timeline for inside the building. It really gives an understanding of how the pieces you saw before fit.

How two critical actions saved lawmakers. We have seen them before.

Officer Goodman leading them away from an open door where Mike Pence is with his Family. If that Mob went in that direction. It would have been a disaster. Bravery and incredibly smart thinking on his part. This time it's showing with overhead tracking diagram.

Later Mob was trying to break through to the House Gallery (Floor was evactuated) where many house members are still sheltering. Plains clothes officer was guarding a choke point. He couldn't let any of the mob through that chokepoint. Ashley Babbit was shot as the first one trying to breach. House members heard the shot, and they can be heard saying removing your pins. Fearing the Mob was breaking through and didn't want to make it easy to identify them. After Babbit was shot, the rest of the House Member were evacuated.

Then it was mostly a fight to push rioters out of the building.



That's an excellent recap of the events. I know I'm on record as not being keen on cops shooting people, even under extreme circumstances. But I do find myself thinking through various hypothetical counter-factuals - e.g. if this had been a black _but right wing_ mob (improbable as that sounds), or a group of mostly white anarchists or communists, say. And in most cases I'm pretty sure there would have been more shooting.
Cannot get over how little one ever expected to see such scenes from the US. The level of failure (in preparation and management) by the authorities is just utterly incredible. (Edit - though I still think there's a non-zero possibility there was active collusion by some of those in authority)
 

Jhhnn

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That's an excellent recap of the events. I know I'm on record as not being keen on cops shooting people, even under extreme circumstances. But I do find myself thinking through various hypothetical counter-factuals - e.g. if this had been a black _but right wing_ mob (improbable as that sounds), or a group of mostly white anarchists or communists, say. And in most cases I'm pretty sure there would have been more shooting.
Cannot get over how little one ever expected to see such scenes from the US. The level of failure (in preparation and management) by the authorities is just utterly incredible. (Edit - though I still think there's a non-zero possibility there was active collusion by some of those in authority)

It was simply inconceivable that any POTUS would hurl an angry mob against Congress in a bid to stay in power. Trump forced a paradigm shift as witnessed by current preparations for the inauguration.
 

nickqt

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Washington Post pieced together timeline video after rioters got in, and graphics of how close they came:

Edit: I have watched it twice now:

This is VERY good Timeline for inside the building. It really gives an understanding of how the pieces you saw before fit.

How two critical actions saved lawmakers. We have seen them before.

Officer Goodman leading them away from an open door where Mike Pence is with his Family. If that Mob went in that direction. It would have been a disaster. Bravery and incredibly smart thinking on his part. This time it's showing with overhead tracking diagram.

Later Mob was trying to break through to the House Gallery (Floor was evactuated) where many house members are still sheltering. Plains clothes officer was guarding a choke point. He couldn't let any of the mob through that chokepoint. Ashley Babbit was shot as the first one trying to breach. House members heard the shot, and they can be heard saying removing your pins. Fearing the Mob was breaking through and didn't want to make it easy to identify them. After Babbit was shot, the rest of the House Member were evacuated.

Then it was mostly a fight to push rioters out of the building.

It seems like there were some key Capitol Police Officers who made extremely smart decisions, while there were other Capitol Police who helped to create and sew chaos. Kinda like how almost ALL Police Forces work.
 

pmv

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It was simply inconceivable that any POTUS would hurl an angry mob against Congress in a bid to stay in power. Trump forced a paradigm shift as witnessed by current preparations for the inauguration.

Maybe, but he was doing that in full sight of everyone who can see Twitter. And those involved openly talked about their intentions on public web-sites. Still seems that should have been noticed by those responsible for security while it was happening.

Unless the rioters all used Patented Stealth Posting, and the FBI all use the dark theme option
 
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Grey_Beard

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Maybe, but he was doing that in full sight of everyone who can see Twitter. And those involved openly talked about their intentions on public web-sites. Still seems that should have been noticed by those responsible for security while it was happening.

Unless the rioters all used Patented Stealth Posting, and the FBI all use the dark theme option

He has been doing this and committing crimes open and public view for a long time. We have become numb to it. People even said, “How can it be a crime if it’s done in public?” By making us numb to it, he allowed this to happen. His supporters are talkers, but when the shot rang out during the breach of the House, they scurried away. Before they chanting and screaming to get in, then we’re gone and trying something else. This shows us that when they feel there are no consequences for their actions, they will continue unabated, but when there are, they run away like the cowards they are. We would have never been successful 245 years ago with a group like this if we were to use these fools to break away from England’s rule.

But given today and these events, I am very glad they were not as determined as we were 245 years ago.
 

Heartbreaker

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He has been doing this and committing crimes open and public view for a long time. We have become numb to it. People even said, “How can it be a crime if it’s done in public?” By making us numb to it, he allowed this to happen.

Exactly. It seems like Trump did enough to be Impeached/censured multiple times if it was a different person doing it. But he just kept rolling from one outrage for to another, and people were just buried and numb. His constant dog whistle's and completely open shouts to the extremists "stand back and stand by" should never be tolerated.
 

Puffnstuff

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The FBI should be infiltrating these people. Will they? Enough? If not, they are failing the nation. Intelligence is key here.
Their peeps are probably caught up in it too which makes it even more difficult to flush out.
 

Muse

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Their peeps are probably caught up in it too which makes it even more difficult to flush out.
I watched an interview of James Comey yesterday, done by Steven Colbert. Very deep and informative. This is the 12 minute version. The 32 minute unedited version is on Youtube too.
 

MtnMan

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Just took a peak on a gun forum. I really hope you all bought weapons the last four years. These people are full on batshit crazy. Everything we know them to be they are projecting on us. They seriously believe we are the monsters their media feeds them daily.
Same experience, but I haven't logged on in probably a year now, but take a peek to see how the deranged are behaving... and it's disturbing.
A positive is that their numbers are limited, what was a very active gun/carry forum has dwindled to 3 completely batshit posters. The alarming aspect is that all 3 are retired military, people that supposedly spent a career defending the Constitution.
 

fleshconsumed

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Same experience, but I haven't logged on in probably a year now, but take a peek to see how the deranged are behaving... and it's disturbing.
A positive is that their numbers are limited, what was a very active gun/carry forum has dwindled to 3 completely batshit posters. The alarming aspect is that all 3 are retired military, people that supposedly spent a career defending the Constitution.
Those people truly believe that democrats are the biggest threat to United States and Constitution. So of course they're going to defend the Constitution by going after libtards.
 

BUTCH1

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Those people truly believe that democrats are the biggest threat to United States and Constitution. So of course they're going to defend the Constitution by going after libtards.
Of course they do, they've had trump calling them "great patriots" since forever and also trump always associating the Dem party with "communists". These dip-shits have somehow forgotten that Obama's 2-term tenure didn't result in "communism" and no guns were taken from anyone.It's not lightly that I saw this, but for the good of the country it would have better for many more to be shot dead by police, now the "goon squad" will feel enabled since only one was killed by police.
 

Muse

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Of course they do, they've had trump calling them "great patriots" since forever and also trump always associating the Dem party with "communists". These dip-shits have somehow forgotten that Obama's 2-term tenure didn't result in "communism" and no guns were taken from anyone.It's not lightly that I saw this, but for the good of the country it would have better for many more to be shot dead by police, now the "goon squad" will feel enabled since only one was killed by police.
You mirror my sentiments, my good fellow! I have a hard time watching some of the video without wishing the cops had been more gun happy. It's not the Capitol I'm concerned about right now. Some of these nuts are dedicated to mayhem and are undoubtedly cunning, and are planning some craven shit.

The weak in courage is strong in cunning. - William Blake

The capitol is a fortress right now, but potential targets are virtually unlimited. I hope the FBI is all over this. Watch the James Comey interview that Colbert did a few days ago.
 
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