US Government Tracking CASH!

[Loggerman]

What kind of genuis's do we have?

They track anything and everything.Information=$$$$

 

[datalink7]

Originally posted by: Xiety

Originally posted by: neutralizer

Originally posted by: waggy

Originally posted by: RabidMongoose
Thanks, I threw away and burned all of my cash.

just send it to me. I have a special machine that will kill the tracking tag! but it takes a $20 a $2, a $50 into a $5 and a $100 into a $10.

$2 bills are worth a lot!

are you being sarcastic? cause i thought they don't worth anything....

Actually, they are worth something...

...about $2.00

 

[Descartes]

RFID has been around for a long time, and you can be certain that it's employed in almost every manufacturing environment; many of which produce consumer product (e.g. tires). So long as the consumer's identity remains decoupled from the actual purchase of the product itself, I don't see any privacy concern. Let them track whatever the hell they want...

 

[Spencer278]

Originally posted by: tweakmm

Originally posted by: Nohr

Originally posted by: tweakmm

Originally posted by: Nohr
Sooo because you set off alarms that somehow means money is being tracked?

If the money is in fact setting off alarms, there is something in them causing this.

Possibly so, but how does that lead to tracking money? I mean, it's not like the bill has any info on who's spending it and what it was used to purchase.

It doesn't mean money is being tracked now, but if every new bill has an RFID chip embeded in it, a law requiring retailers to scan every bill given/received and a database ala Total Information Awareness is all that is needed to start tracking. I realise that that isn't exactly an easy feat and retailers would raise hell, but hey, anythying to catch terrorists eh?

That being said, it wouldn't surprise me too much if there was an RFID chip or something similar in the new bills, but I would be very very surprised if the government was actively tracking cash transactions.

You might want to take a look at a few of those bills you will notice that each has a unique number on it that could be scaned and tracked. There is no need the RFID.

 

[Bigblades]

If they can track our friggin' money, why can't I get tracking devices for my stuff. My backpack, my hat, my keys... stuff I lose all the time.

 

[kranky]

Originally posted by: neutralizer

Originally posted by: So

Originally posted by: neutralizer

Originally posted by: waggy

Originally posted by: RabidMongoose
Thanks, I threw away and burned all of my cash.

just send it to me. I have a special machine that will kill the tracking tag! but it takes a $20 a $2, a $50 into a $5 and a $100 into a $10.

$2 bills are worth a lot!

No, they're not. Go to any bank and you'll find them.

Wait, but they don't make them anymore... and i just checked us mint, they're going for $50 for 10.

I don't know what you are talking about. Current $2 bills are not worth over face value. If you think they are worth $5 each, please let me know how many you want to buy, and I will sell you all you want for $2.50 each.

 

[MarklarMarklar]

Originally posted by: Skoorb
You naysayers need to wake the hell up, and wake up soon. Big Brother is moving in on our liberties in ways you can't imagine. They aren't going through the front door with curfews and check points; they're coming in the back, and they are doing it with surveillance measures such as the new bills. My brother in law's friend actually has been working on some of this tracking technology. You wouldn't believe it, and it's so far above what we've got in the public sector. Of course the metal linings on these bills do not have transmitters - we're not there yet, since those cost too much, but there is a tiny memory chip on each bill and it knows what store the bill went in and when (stores have to register their anti-theft devices using a unique number, like a MAC address on a computer).

I've personally stopped using all of the new 20s and any bill with a metal strip. I've also taken myself off the grid. I take the bus, so that the government doesn't have information from me from a driver's license or car registration. I also had a cache of weaponry coming in today, but it was bloody well seized. :|

^^Somebody's about to go missing.

 

[RagingBITCH]

Get a life

 

[Turkish]

Originally posted by: Skoorb
You naysayers need to wake the hell up, and wake up soon. Big Brother is moving in on our liberties in ways you can't imagine. They aren't going through the front door with curfews and check points; they're coming in the back, and they are doing it with surveillance measures such as the new bills. My brother in law's friend actually has been working on some of this tracking technology. You wouldn't believe it, and it's so far above what we've got in the public sector. Of course the metal linings on these bills do not have transmitters - we're not there yet, since those cost too much, but there is a tiny memory chip on each bill and it knows what store the bill went in and when (stores have to register their anti-theft devices using a unique number, like a MAC address on a computer).

I've personally stopped using all of the new 20s and any bill with a metal strip. I've also taken myself off the grid. I take the bus, so that the government doesn't have information from me from a driver's license or car registration. I also had a cache of weaponry coming in today, but it was bloody well seized. :|

lmao a lot of people's sarcasm meters will break

 

[Hubris]

Originally posted by: Bigblades
If they can track our friggin' money, why can't I get tracking devices for my stuff. My backpack, my hat, my keys... stuff I lose all the time.

You can, if you want to pay for it.

 

[tm37]

Originally posted by: Skoorb
You naysayers need to wake the hell up, and wake up soon. Big Brother is moving in on our liberties in ways you can't imagine. They aren't going through the front door with curfews and check points; they're coming in the back, and they are doing it with surveillance measures such as the new bills. My brother in law's friend actually has been working on some of this tracking technology. You wouldn't believe it, and it's so far above what we've got in the public sector. Of course the metal linings on these bills do not have transmitters - we're not there yet, since those cost too much, but there is a tiny memory chip on each bill and it knows what store the bill went in and when (stores have to register their anti-theft devices using a unique number, like a MAC address on a computer).

I've personally stopped using all of the new 20s and any bill with a metal strip. I've also taken myself off the grid. I take the bus, so that the government doesn't have information from me from a driver's license or car registration. I also had a cache of weaponry coming in today, but it was bloody well seized. :|

wouldn't posting here be kinda on the grid

Or is ATOT off the grid:Q

 

[yllus]

Okay, let's assume that every new bill has a unique id # that can be passively and electronically scanned. What does this mean?

To reliably assign cash to an individual, the government would have to be working hand in hand with banks so that bill ID #s are scanned and stored to some database right before the bank machine or teller hands the money over to the individual. This could still easily be defeated - all you'd have to do is request large bills and get change somewhere else. Last I checked I didn't have to give my name to get change from a bank that I don't even have an account at.

The database to track every single U.S. bill... Enormous. I won't say that it's impossible to implement though, Carnivore is an example of what can be done on an utterly huge scale of info collection. Again, the whereabouts of the bills would only reliably be identified when they arrived back at some banking institution, unless you think the gov't could coerce every retail outlet in the country into buying or modifying equipment that can immediately report the presence of a tracked bill.

I see one positive about this - ransom money in U.S. bills might become next to worthless. You could fill a briefcase with bills whose ID #s you record ahead of time and track the perps according to where the bills surface; then send in law enforcement. That's about the only use of bills like this - if you gave them out to specific people, there's a remote possibility one could track their whereabouts and buying habits.

 

[StageLeft]

Originally posted by: tm37

wouldn't posting here be kinda on the grid

Or is ATOT off the grid:Q

I post through an intermediary

 

[dmcowen674]

Originally posted by: tweakmm

Originally posted by: Nohr
Sooo because you set off alarms that somehow means money is being tracked?

If the money is in fact setting off alarms, there is something in them causing this.

Old News.

 

[dmcowen674]

Originally posted by: waggy
Quick! put them in the microwave! that will kill the tracking tag!



hmm i would think tracking all the new $20 and $50 (would guess $100 also) would be darn near impossible.

They do have small strips in them so they can tell conterfiet ones apart. doubt that is setting them off.

You're close but not quite. They're not RFID tags per say.

I can't go into any more detail on a public forum.

 

[Ness]

*dons tin foil beanie*

 

[JeffreyLebowski]

This is why i prefer to make all my purchases with Pesos. Sure i have to carry 4lbs of bills everywhere I go, but uncle sam can't track me. Cousin Julio might be tracking me, that damn dirty beloved patriot.

Seriously. why worry, if you're not doing anything bad, then you shouldn't worry.
And if you have a credit, debit, ATM, or store discount card, then you've been tracked for years and walmart and the government know you go to walmart and buy 10 cans a beans and 5 packs of TP a week.

 

[Wheatmaster]

dip the money in lead.

 

[TitanDiddly]

OMG TEH GPS MONAY!!!!!111

 

[her209]

I wonder if the government know when I'm sticking twenties down a strippers g-string. :Q

 

[waggy]

Originally posted by: her209
I wonder if the government know when I'm sticking twenties down a strippers g-string. :Q

better question is does your wife/Girlfriend/boyfriend know?

 

[Cashmoney995]

It at least screws up all of the stores security systems. True I didnt think about how it would know who had the money but its still weird. Its most highly probably rfid chips because metal does not set off the detectors, the security devices in the stores work off of rfid. Right now the main invasion of privacy happens because you get searched because u set off the detector.

 

[MacBaine]

Originally posted by: Cashmoney995
It at least screws up all of the stores security systems. True I didnt think about how it would know who had the money but its still weird. Its most highly probably rfid chips because metal does not set off the detectors, the security devices in the stores work off of rfid. Right now the main invasion of privacy happens because you get searched because u set off the detector.

You get searched? Only if you're going into the White House. You set off an alarm, you keep walking... who's going to stop you, much less search you?

 

[ReiAyanami]

mulder discovered this 7 years ago.

 

[Cyberian]

Originally posted by: Spencer278
You might want to take a look at a few of those bills you will notice that each has a unique number on it that could be scaned and tracked. There is no need the RFID.

Haven't US bills always had a unique serial number?l