US soldier throws puppy off cliff

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Hayabusa Rider

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Reports say this was most likely done in Hawaii. I'm hoping I was wrong and the dog is fake, because any mitigating claim of war stress just flew off the cliff, so to speak.
 

Analog

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Originally posted by: Hayabusa Rider
Reports say this was most likely done in Hawaii. I'm hoping I was wrong and the dog is fake, because any mitigating claim of war stress just flew off the cliff, so to speak.

Since when does Hawaii have deserts?

The report says he is a Marine from Washington state, who has relocated to Hawaii.
 

Hayabusa Rider

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Originally posted by: Analog
Originally posted by: Hayabusa Rider
Reports say this was most likely done in Hawaii. I'm hoping I was wrong and the dog is fake, because any mitigating claim of war stress just flew off the cliff, so to speak.

Since when does Hawaii have deserts?

The report says he is a Marine from Washington state, who has relocated to Hawaii.

Never having been to Hawaii I don't know the land, but with volcanoes it might have barren land. I could be entirely wrong. Notwithstanding, I hope it's fake because there is no excuse for it. The Marines are in agreement and are investigating.
 

Synomenon

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Originally posted by: Analog
Originally posted by: Hayabusa Rider
Reports say this was most likely done in Hawaii. I'm hoping I was wrong and the dog is fake, because any mitigating claim of war stress just flew off the cliff, so to speak.

Since when does Hawaii have deserts?

The report says he is a Marine from Washington state, who has relocated to Hawaii.

There's only one desert I know of in Hawaii. It's on the big island near Mount Kilauea and I think it's called "Ka?u desert". It doesn't look anything like what's on the video though.
 

olds

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Maj. Chris Perrine of the Marine Corps Base in Kaneohe, Hawaii says it appears the man is a lance corporal based with a unit in the islands.
 

Mr Pickles

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This thread reminds me of the plane on a treadmill thread. If the damn thing were discussed in person, no one would have any issue with it, but the confusion is in the delivery of the replies.

Everyone has agreed that killing the dog is sick. Everyone agrees that it takes a sick individual to kill the dog. Some have taken it a step further and blamed the war for it, citing things such as "these people kill humans all day, what's a dog to them?" Those that have responded to such claims ignore that the people with this idea still think it takes a sick mind to kill a dog, but they are viewing it on a wider platform and trying to find reason behind the cruel actions.

You know what... this is like the third time I've typed basically the same thing out in this one thread and no one here is getting it. I'm done.

Good luck with your bitch fest. Hope you guys get over the puppy dying and I hope everyone understands that this guy is being spat on because we taught him kill living, breathing things and armed him but neglected to teach him how to conciously differentiate between what the US considers "good murder" and "bad murder"... as if there is such a thing.
 

olds

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Originally posted by: MrLee
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You know what... this is like the third time I've typed basically the same thing out in this one thread and no one here is getting it. I'm done.

....

Or no one cares about your opinion. It's not always balck and white.

 

Capt Caveman

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Originally posted by: MrLee
This thread reminds me of the plane on a treadmill thread. If the damn thing were discussed in person, no one would have any issue with it, but the confusion is in the delivery of the replies.

Everyone has agreed that killing the dog is sick. Everyone agrees that it takes a sick individual to kill the dog. Some have taken it a step further and blamed the war for it, citing things such as "these people kill humans all day, what's a dog to them?" Those that have responded to such claims ignore that the people with this idea still think it takes a sick mind to kill a dog, but they are viewing it on a wider platform and trying to find reason behind the cruel actions.

You know what... this is like the third time I've typed basically the same thing out in this one thread and no one here is getting it. I'm done.

Good luck with your bitch fest. Hope you guys get over the puppy dying and I hope everyone understands that this guy is being spat on because we taught him kill living, breathing things and armed him but neglected to teach him how to conciously differentiate between what the US considers "good murder" and "bad murder"... as if there is such a thing.

Good riddance. Based on the US Marines reply, they are against you too. And your opinion becomes moot if the incident occurred in Hawaii.
 

ThePresence

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Originally posted by: MrLee
Good luck with your bitch fest. Hope you guys get over the puppy dying and I hope everyone understands that this guy is being spat on because we taught him kill living, breathing things and armed him but neglected to teach him how to conciously differentiate between what the US considers "good murder" and "bad murder"... as if there is such a thing.

It has nothing to do with the fact that he's a soldier.
I was a soldier too. Hundreds of thousands of people were.
It still takes a sick guy to kill a puppy for fun. It has absolutely nothing to do with his training. Put the blame where it belongs - on his sick shoulders - and stop looking to blame others for his act.
 

olds

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Originally posted by: ThePresence
Originally posted by: MrLee
Good luck with your bitch fest. Hope you guys get over the puppy dying and I hope everyone understands that this guy is being spat on because we taught him kill living, breathing things and armed him but neglected to teach him how to conciously differentiate between what the US considers "good murder" and "bad murder"... as if there is such a thing.

It has nothing to do with the fact that he's a soldier.
I was a soldier too. Hundreds of thousands of people were.
It still takes a sick guy to kill a puppy for fun. It has absolutely nothing to do with his training. Put the blame where it belongs - on his sick shoulders - and stop looking to blame others for his act.
QFT
I was a soldier for 12 years and I never killed any puppies.

Don't ask me about kittens.


 

Nik

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Originally posted by: OhSnap688
If this is real, I hope he gets sent to Iraq and dies.

That's not really reasonable. The dog's life is not worth more than the Marine's life. While a horrible thing to do, more death is not the solution.
 

TheNewbie

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Originally posted by: oldsmoboat
Originally posted by: ThePresence
Originally posted by: MrLee
Good luck with your bitch fest. Hope you guys get over the puppy dying and I hope everyone understands that this guy is being spat on because we taught him kill living, breathing things and armed him but neglected to teach him how to conciously differentiate between what the US considers "good murder" and "bad murder"... as if there is such a thing.

It has nothing to do with the fact that he's a soldier.
I was a soldier too. Hundreds of thousands of people were.
It still takes a sick guy to kill a puppy for fun. It has absolutely nothing to do with his training. Put the blame where it belongs - on his sick shoulders - and stop looking to blame others for his act.
QFT
I was a soldier for 12 years and I never killed any puppies.

X2

I was a soldier, never knew anyone who would do something like that. This is just plain out psychopath behavior, this guy should be in an institution getting treatment not wondering around fully armed, his judgment is clearly severely flawed.
 

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Marine possibly ID'd

The Marine holding what seems to be a puppy is then seen flinging the animal overhand into a desertlike gully below. Yelps accompany the end-over-end tumble until it thuds to the ground at the bottom of the gully.

?That?s mean,? one Marine says afterward. ?That was mean, Motari.?

Maj. Chris Perrine, a Marine spokesman, said a Lance Cpl. David Motari is with the 1st Battalion, 3rd Marine Regiment at Kane?ohe Bay.

Motari returned to Hawai?i in October from Haqlaniyah, Iraq, after a seven-month deployment, Perrine said. The 1,000 Marines with the 1st Battalion were stationed in the ?Triad? area of Haditha, Haqlaniyah and Barwana northwest of Baghdad.

Motari could not be reached for comment.

?

Motari, on a www.bebo.com social networking page, identified himself as a 22-year-old from Seattle.

On the page he says he is scared of ?nothing,? and is happiest ?chillin? out, sleeping, playing sports, hittin? the gym, hangin? with friends, with my family, at home, Fridays, eating, running, cruisin?, and definitely when I get out of the Marine Corps.?

Web postings say he is married. MySpace and other networking sites for Motari and family members were changed to restricted access yesterday or were removed.

The Everett, Wash., Herald said a woman at the home listed for the Marine in Washington state declined to talk.

?Could you just leave? We already know why you?re here,? the woman told the newspaper. ?Just go. There?s nothing to say.?
 

jonks

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How hard is it to say "It was fake!"

"Go away" = yeah, he did it.

I like how the marines are investigating and "trying to find out" who the guy is, despite his name being said in the video. Oh, and that 10 minutes of internet sleuthing revealed various personal accounts. No wonder the marines are still searching for insurgents after 5 years if they're run by a bunch of imcompetants who can't find one of their own soldiers after being identified by name and picture.
 

Josh

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Originally posted by: Queasy
Marine possibly ID'd

The Marine holding what seems to be a puppy is then seen flinging the animal overhand into a desertlike gully below. Yelps accompany the end-over-end tumble until it thuds to the ground at the bottom of the gully.

?That?s mean,? one Marine says afterward. ?That was mean, Motari.?

Maj. Chris Perrine, a Marine spokesman, said a Lance Cpl. David Motari is with the 1st Battalion, 3rd Marine Regiment at Kane?ohe Bay.

Motari returned to Hawai?i in October from Haqlaniyah, Iraq, after a seven-month deployment, Perrine said. The 1,000 Marines with the 1st Battalion were stationed in the ?Triad? area of Haditha, Haqlaniyah and Barwana northwest of Baghdad.

Motari could not be reached for comment.

?

Motari, on a www.bebo.com social networking page, identified himself as a 22-year-old from Seattle.

On the page he says he is scared of ?nothing,? and is happiest ?chillin? out, sleeping, playing sports, hittin? the gym, hangin? with friends, with my family, at home, Fridays, eating, running, cruisin?, and definitely when I get out of the Marine Corps.?

Web postings say he is married. MySpace and other networking sites for Motari and family members were changed to restricted access yesterday or were removed.

The Everett, Wash., Herald said a woman at the home listed for the Marine in Washington state declined to talk.

?Could you just leave? We already know why you?re here,? the woman told the newspaper. ?Just go. There?s nothing to say.?

Damnnn maybe the people on YouTube did have his information correct :shocked:
 

Josh

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Originally posted by: jjsole
Originally posted by: Cdubneeddeal
Originally posted by: Josh
According to YouTube, the soldier's information is:

David Mortari
2***9 Florence Acres Rd
Monroe, WA 98272-9662
(360) ***-7191

You can find all the info on youtube, don't know if its alright to post it here..or if it is even true..

Why would they post his information on there? Sounds like a setup to me..

Exactly. This sounds like one person viciously setting up someone else for some devious reason.

Maybe not
 

Gooberlx2

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Originally posted by: sirjonk
How hard is it to say "It was fake!"

"Go away" = yeah, he did it.

I like how the marines are investigating and "trying to find out" who the guy is, despite his name being said in the video. Oh, and that 10 minutes of internet sleuthing revealed various personal accounts. No wonder the marines are still searching for insurgents after 5 years if they're run by a bunch of imcompetants who can't find one of their own soldiers after being identified by name and picture.

No. The woman saying "Go away" = Oh my God, I'm just the wife who had no idea about it and suddenly I'm being inundated with calls from either the news or people threatening me.

I mean, obviously the guy's a douche bag, but what would you expect an unknowing family member to do?
 

Josh

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Originally posted by: Cdubneeddeal
Originally posted by: Beev
Originally posted by: TheNewbie
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Front page on Foxnews.. :Q

Originally posted by: TheNewbie
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CNN has it now also... well you can say that douche is fried now..

Oh man... That guy is owned now...

Damn. But what if it's fake? Would the person who did it be up for any disciplinary action?

I really don't think its fake for the fact that I don't think those marines would go through all that trouble (editing/etc) to show them throwing a puppy off a cliff? I mean wtf ...that doesn't make sense. Like the video that was posted a few weeks ago showing the guy jumping off a building and then getting up and walking away...at least that's somewhat cool. This video is just disgusting...it makes no sense that someone would FAKE something like this.
 
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