US source: North Korean leader in grave danger after surgery

Denly

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Per CNN

(CNN)The US is monitoring intelligence that North Korea's leader, Kim Jong Un, is in grave danger after a surgery, according to a US official with direct knowledge.

If fat Kim gone who will get the throne? His sister? I don't think he has kids that is old enough.
 

hal2kilo

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Holy crap! Maybe finally an opportunity for some kind of realistic reconciliation and numb nuts is in charge. Can't wait to see how he'll use this for some oddball political gain if Kim croaks.
 
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ondma

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My first thought was, if it had to happen to a country's leader, why couldn't it be.........oh NVM.

Edit: not joking either, as terrible as it is, that was my first thought.
 

SteveGrabowski

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Wonder if there will be civil war or if the military will try to take over if the fat bastard is dead.
 

Denly

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Wonder if there will be civil war or if the military will try to take over if the fat bastard is dead.

So either work with SK to open up the country or more close and China depending. Either way good luck to their people.
 

NostaSeronx

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Not up to date on laws... but if they follow the rules then the succession/inheritance rules of NK;
1. Spouse, sons and daughters, adopted children, stepchildren, unborn
children, parents, adoptive parents, and step-parents;
2. Grandchildren, grandparents, brothers and sisters, the adopted brothers and
sisters, and step-brothers and sisters;
3. Blood relatives within the fourth degree of kinship.

Which is important to kill off other same ranking members;
If there are two or more inheritors of the same rank, their shares of the inheritance shall be equally divided (Text, Art. 19). However, the portion of a person who has supported the person dying intestate during their life or a person of small income who is incapable of living for herself or himself may be increased and the portion of a person who has the ability to support but has not performed that duty may be decreased (Proviso, Art. 19).

The news so far has point to the wife and the sister acquiring political clout. Also, men apparently in modern leaks are considered useless other than defending the home. So, a push for a matriarchal inheritance, do to the overall weirdness over there, might be feasible.

=> Women earn more than 70 percent of household income in North Korea, mainly as traders in the informal markets that have proliferated in recent years, research by the South Korean government-run Korea Institute for National Unification (KINU) found.

“We North Koreans say men are fighting on the socialism front but women are fighting in the battle of life,” said a 26-year-old surnamed Jung who fled to South Korea in 2012 and regularly sends money north to support her mother’s gray-market business raising pigs and selling corn-based alcohol.

“There are no state provisions and my father has an unpaid job, which he must do almost as a duty,” said Jung, a college student in Seoul who asked that her full name not be used to protect her family members still in the North.

“If you want to live better up there, you’d better be a woman selling stuff in markets or marry a man who lives on bribes or taxes from these women at markets, or works for the regime’s trading firms,” said Kim Min-jung, a defector who runs a matchmaking service for 1,500 women who left the North.

“That points to how useless males are in terms of making money for their families,” she said.

With women holding more economic power, more of them are also seeking divorce, according to experts. The main reason cited is financial incompetence, according to a recent survey of 103 defectors by the Seoul-based Korean Bar Association.

The female takeover of North Korea’s main street economy is changing a paternalistic culture that considers the ideal women a stay-at-home wife.

While state media promotes institutional gender equality, society has long been dominated by men. Money is changing that.

“North Korea’s living standards depend on women’s business abilities and skills, not on the state. Women are replacing the role of the state via the market economy,” said Kim Eun-ju, who heads the Center for Korean Women and Politics in Seoul and regularly interviews recent defectors.

“Now men are even looking for potential wives in marketplaces,” she said.

Jung, the college student defector, said: “North Korean women are independent and strong but will get more so as the state can’t provide much for individuals.”

// Essentially, it would reflect the societal norm that has been occurring. Be oppressed long enough, then naturally it will trickle-up.
 
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BoomerD

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We can only hope...having little rocketman kick the bucket would be a win-win for the planet...and especially for the Korean people.
 

eelw

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We can only hope...having little rocketman kick the bucket would be a win-win for the planet...and especially for the Korean people.
He listened to trump and took hydroxychloroquine to fight Covid19 to cause the heart issues. So thanks trump for the medical advise.
 
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DrunkenSano

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There will definitely be a military coup if it's Kim's wife or sister that takes over. It'll be crazy and who knows what will happen if a coup happens.
 

alien42

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Holy shit if true, but waiting to hear from a reliable source.

CNN is a reliable source, of course if you actually read the article you would have noticed that it was multi-sourced good journalism.

i'd say the big question is if he doesn't make it through, will it be his sister or the military that takes control?
 
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VRAMdemon

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According to this Bloomberg article, apart from his sister, the known possibilities are:

- He's believed to have gotten married in 2009 and had 3 children, but none of this is officially recognized. Although, any of Kim Jong Un's children couldn't be older than their teens at most, hardly an age for national leadership. Actually Wikipedia says Ri Sol-ju has been officially recognized as "respected first lady" since 2018.

- His only other sibling is a brother who hasn't been involved in politics at all

- A nephew, but that family has fallen out of favor (his father is in exile)
 

Vic

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If true, I won't shed any tears for the passing of a murderous dictator.

Sic semper tyrannis.
 
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