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Atreus21

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And now the backpedaling begins.

Will you admit she used the word correctly and you were wrong to call her a moron?

Evasiveness is always intriguing.

Do you deny that the term concentration camp mostly evokes those of Nazi Germany?
 

snoopy7548

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I thought this thread was about Kim Jong Un being (almost) dead. I don't know what AOC has to do with that.
 

Atreus21

Lifer
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I thought this thread was about Kim Jong Un being (almost) dead. I don't know what AOC has to do with that.

It turned into the claim that China was more civilized than the US, which is when I brought up Chinese concentration camps, when DarkSwordsman17 equated them with ICE detainment centers, for which we can thank AOC's foolishness.
 

fskimospy

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Evasiveness is always intriguing.

Do you deny that the term concentration camp mostly evokes those of Nazi Germany?
Of course they do, and the whole point of using that term was to grab people’s attention about the concentration camps we are running and issue a warning.

I’m glad you have backtracked on your claim that she was using the word wrong, I hope you think twice before calling someone a moron in the future as it might turn out that once again they were right and you were wrong.
 

Atreus21

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Of course they do, and the whole point of using that term was to grab people’s attention about the concentration camps we are running and issue a warning.

Exactly. The term demands attention because of what the nazis did. Whatever the dictionary says, the term is intrinsically associated with genocide and the holocaust. What ICE has done is nowhere close to the same league as what the Nazis did. AOC either knows that (in which case she was deliberately dishonest and irresponsible by describing ICE with the same term, without any qualifier), or she really believes they are comparable, in which case she's a moron.

Regardless, all she did was damage, in addition to crying wolf. As you can see in this thread, leftists are now equating ICE detainment centers with Chinese forced labor camps, all because of AOC. Further, others like yourself indirectly defend the comparison in order to defend AOC.

What was once seen clearly is now muddied, due to her irresponsibility.
 

brycejones

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Exactly. The term demands attention because of what the nazis did. Whatever the dictionary says, the term is intrinsically associated with genocide and the holocaust. What ICE has done is nowhere close to the same league as what the Nazis did. AOC either knows that (in which case she was deliberately dishonest and irresponsible by describing ICE with the same term, without any qualifier), or she really believes they are comparable, in which case she's a moron.

Regardless, all she did was damage, in addition to crying wolf. As you can see in this thread, leftists are now equating ICE detainment centers with Chinese forced labor camps, all because of AOC. Further, others like yourself indirectly defend the comparison in order to defend AOC.

What was once seen clearly is now muddied, due to her irresponsibility.
WWJD?
 

fskimospy

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Exactly. The term demands attention because of what the nazis did. Whatever the dictionary says, the term is intrinsically associated with genocide and the holocaust. What ICE has done is nowhere close to the same league as what the Nazis did. AOC either knows that (in which case she was deliberately dishonest and irresponsible by describing ICE with the same term, without any qualifier), or she really believes they are comparable, in which case she's a moron.

Regardless, all she did was damage, in addition to crying wolf. As you can see in this thread, leftists are now equating ICE detainment centers with Chinese forced labor camps, all because of AOC. Further, others like yourself indirectly defend the comparison in order to defend AOC.

What was once seen clearly is now muddied, due to her irresponsibility.
This is a weird way of admitting she was right.
 
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BoomerD

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Only a complete and utter fool can compare the US detention camps with the German or Japanese WWII concentration camps. The ONLY thing they have in common is detaining people who don't really want to be there.
 
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Atreus21

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Only a complete and utter fool can compare the US detention camps with the German or Japanese WWII concentration camps. The ONLY thing they have in common is detaining people who don't really want to be there.

Even if you're being sarcastic, you're still exactly right. Prisons aren't concentration camps.
 

amrnuke

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TMZ is now saying Kim Jong Un is dead as a result of a botched stent procedure. Perhaps indicative of a massive heart attack, which is why some Chinese sources were speculating brain death earlier??


Stroke risk with stents is not insignificant, ranging from 0.13-0.4% of cases. (1, 2)

There are many ways by which you can get a stroke post stent. One would be direct embolization of an aortic plaque. Another is via brain bleed from anticoagulants used. Or a vessel complication leading to a completely akinetic area of the heart muscle, and clot formation on that area, which then embolizes to the brain. Or arrhythmia during procedure leading to ACLS/CPR, intubation, hypoperfusion of the brain (ischemia due to anoxia/hypoxia), and so on.

Really crazy if true.
 
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Atreus21

Lifer
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Not directly, but cruelty is still cruelty. Just because one is worse doesn't make the other tolerable.

Also, still waiting for you to address how you claim to be morally upright while excusing unnecessary, maliciously-inflicted suffering.

I dont claim to be morally upright, nor do I excuse cruelty. The only reason I'm here is because someone sought to excuse China's reprehensible human rights record by a ridiculous comparison with America's.

There is zero legitimate comparison between the two.
 

amenx

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Jeezuz, been scrolling and scrolling to see info on Kim Jung Un and all I see is off topic thread derailment. I hope mods can clean up this thread.
 
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pmv

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I wonder how long it will be before the word 'danger' can be removed from the thread title?
 
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